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Title: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: addlened on Friday 15 July 05 09:02 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out why my GG Grandmother moved from North London to Barming nr Maidstone in the last years of her life as there are no known family ties in the area. Sarah Pridgeon nee Whitmore moved to Barming in about 1885 and died there in 1890. she lived in South Street by St Margaret's church where she was buried.

Can anyone tell me if there were any Whitmore families living in the area in 1891 as this might help me tie up a link to other members of the family. The Whitmores originated from Redhill/Reigate/Horley area and it is possible some moved east to Kent.
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 15 July 05 13:53 BST (UK)
Hi

I couldn't see any WHITMOREs in Barming or Maidstone 1891 :(

Casalguidi
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: addlened on Friday 15 July 05 15:27 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your efforts.  :)javascript:replaceText(' :)', document.postmodify.message);
Smiley
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: EmilyJane on Thursday 08 April 10 00:52 BST (UK)
i have only very scant but quite detailed info on some Redhill Whitmores.my Great Granny , a whitmore by marrriage , was fanny lavinia Whitmore (born Lucas 1877). She was married to William john whitmore in 1899 and they lived in 77 St johns , Redhill. He is described as a bricklayer in most of the census entries.He was I think according to my granny , from Irish stock (Cork)on his mother's side"an Irish biddy"so she said , but I can't find any trace of his father who was also called william john whitmore . On their wedding certificate it says they originally lived at 7 Hooley road , earlswood , reigate , and on the census it states william  was born in Kennington , London. he had 2 sisters , according to my auntie, both married , and 2 daughters , my granny Ivy lily mary whitmore and my great aunt kathleen (named after the irish biddy ?) so the whitmore name died out on that branch when they married.
I have some photos. I have a picture of a whitmore in police officer's uniform (19th century), not sure who it is.Also quite a few of william whitmore , young and old.
Not sure if you have made any connections with other whitmore relsatives in your search , or if this is helpful , but would be pleased to hear from you or any other whitmore searchers if this sounds like the right redhill whitmores .
 
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: addlened on Monday 26 April 10 09:22 BST (UK)
Hi,

Thanks for the update. I have William and Fanny and also your Gran Ivy on my spreadsheet of Redhill/Reigate/Horley Whitmores but have not been able to relate them to my family tree yet. Most of the Whitmore's in Surrey originated from Horley and gradually spread out to Redhill/Reigate and a few to London. I also have a Kathleen Alice Whitmore born in 1905 is this your great aunt.

I have several hundred Whitmore's and happy to help piece together some more of your family history on the Whitmore side. It is quite possible that we are related in a distant way as for many years they kept quite local and all seem to be labourers, bricklayers or plasterers. I'm intersted in the policeman as I have also seen some photo's of Whitmore's in the police before.

Kind Regards
Ned
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: EmilyJane on Wednesday 09 June 10 23:26 BST (UK)
Hi Ned ,
So sorry not to have replied. Have only just logged on again.yes , kathleen whitmore was my great aunt , my granny Ivy's younger sister. I have pictures of Ivy , kathleen and their parents (William Whitmore the bricklayer) which I could send you , also of the unidentified policeman. My great granny , Fanny Lavinia Whitmore , lived at 77 st john's redhill until she died in the 1960's, and her stepmother and stepsister ran a little shop at 9 st john's of which I also have pictures.It is still there, md still recognisable.
Let me know if you'd like to see the photos to see if there is some resemblance.kathleen (Kaggers)died before fanny , of lung cancer , was married to Norman , but had no children. she looks to be small , busy and bird like , like my great granny was , who never stood still . I even have cine film of her weeding granny's garden in Reigate . Granny was more the Jewish princess in looks , dark and more substantially built.
Emily Jane
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: aug on Wednesday 01 September 10 02:42 BST (UK)
Hi
 I have a 5 generation pedigree chart of grandmothers and fathers, I have a sarah whitmore b 1857 redhill married a George curd hes from tonbridge kent. sarahs dad is john whitmore b 1827 redhill and mother is mary roffey b 1830 godstone surrey.  johns dad is thomas whitmore b 1807 surrey D in reigate, thomas wife is susanna browne would these be the same whitmore with anyone on here. ???
 
jew
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: addlened on Friday 03 September 10 08:26 BST (UK)
Hi,

Unfortunately your sarah is not the one. My GG Grandmother was born in 1821 and is descended from another branch of the Whitmores. Thomas and Susanna (Frusanna) are descended from Whitmores in Horley and I still have not found a convincing link between your line of Whitmores and mine although I'm sure there is one back in the 1700s.

Thank you for replying and if you want any information on your branch of the family I have quite a large list of Whitmores in and around Horley, Redhill and Reigate at my disposal.

David
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: aug on Friday 17 September 10 21:11 BST (UK)
Hi
 Sorry i did not reply to you sooner.... Yes i would like some help... Heres my whitemores sarah alice whitmore b 1857 0r 1855 redhill married a George curd b 1942 farmborought kent.. The daughter is susan ann kezian curd married a potter from croydon...  Sarah's dad is john whitmore b 1827 redhill reigate mother mary roffey godstone.  sarah's grandad is thomas whitmore b 1827 surrey d 1880 reigate,and sarah's g-grandad john whitmore b 1772 surrey d 17? horley not sure if right dates. Had a tree sent to me of my grandmothers and fathers. Hope you can help just need to find out more about them.

Thanks

jew
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: aug on Friday 17 September 10 21:16 BST (UK)
Sorry about this all ready wrote this message out well some of it...
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: addlened on Thursday 23 September 10 20:16 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have done a bit of research for you. First of all sarah Alice is a different Whitmore born in Farnham to Thomas Whitmore and Eliza Vaas. Your Sarah was born in 1860 or late 1859 (christened in Feb 1860). I cannot find a marriage for Sarah and George Curd but from 1881 census to 1901 we have a Sarah Married to George. Their daughter, one of many married Alfred John Potter of Adelaide Road Croydon in 1901 when she was 17. He was 21 and they were both Flower Hawkers. Alfred was born in Brighton and it is likely they met there as in 1891 susan was living at Cumberland Place Brighton.

As for Mary Roffey, I don't know anything apart from being born in 1829 and coming from Lingfield. John Whitmore I can trace back through Thomas and (S)Frusanna Browne, then John and Anne Miller, then Thomas and Mary Peters married in 1771 and possibly back to Thomas and Ann from Horley in the early 1700s.
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: aug on Friday 24 September 10 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi
 
Thanks Alfred potter my G-grandad m susan curd i have that their son Geogre potter is my grandad....  Not sure if Alfreds dad is john married a susan tutlett i think, hes hard to find could you please look this up if you dont mind please.    Mary roffey m john whitmore found she might of remarry after johns death to a geogre maynard but not sure if right......  i have john whitmore and ann miller so hes dad be Thomas married a mary peters?  Than thomas dad married a ann from horley? Have i got this right dont want to get things mixed up... 

cheers you been great help

jew
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: aug on Friday 15 October 10 02:04 BST (UK)
Hi
Can someone help me i want to delete all my messages on rootchat more than one topic made loads of mistakes. I looked up info how but still not easy to do and its driving me mad.

Thankyou if anyone can help me.

jew
Title: Potter
Post by: Diane1000 on Wednesday 27 October 10 03:26 BST (UK)
Hi...

You sent me a message (reproduced below) but there was no REPLY button so I've found another one of your posts and am replying from it.  I'm new to RootsChat and my emails to the administrator have gone unanswered.  I didn't want you to think I hadn't responded. :-)

(Hi Diane

Do any of your potters come from croydon,my grandad is George potter married a Harriet dollin. Hes father is a john fredrick potter m susan curd. And i think john parents are john potter and susan tulett)

Sorry though, my Potters didn't come from Croydon.

Diane
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: casalguidi on Wednesday 27 October 10 12:15 BST (UK)
Diane, the Rootschat personal message system will not be fully activated until you have made three posts on the boards ........... you can reply to this thread twice more and it should then be fully working.

Casalguidi :)
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: aug on Thursday 28 October 10 20:01 BST (UK)
Hi Diane1000

You said your potters not from croydon.. I'm not sure if my potters came from else where than some moved to croydon..
Thanks for the reply

jew
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: Diane1000 on Sunday 31 October 10 21:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks for explaining!  I was thoroughly confused. :-)

Diane
Title: Re: Whitmore - 1891 in Barming/Maidstone
Post by: Pirate on Thursday 04 June 15 10:41 BST (UK)
Hello all
Be very careful with the Mary ROFFEY, who married John WHITMORE. This Mary ROFFEY was from Lingfield and was the daughter of George & Sarah ROFFEY. They moved to Redhill in 1840's and lived in Linkfield Street.
There was another Mary ROFFEY born around the same time in South Godstone, who married William WINCHESTER and lived opposite the Jolly Farmers at Horne.
There are so many Mary ROFFEY's that it becomes a minefield,
Pirate