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Title: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: nyflint on Thursday 26 November 15 06:50 GMT (UK)
Looking for any info on this person.
It appears he was a Gunmaker in Birmingham circa 1880.
Borne in Stratford, household record for 1861 & 1891 but nothing in-between.
There is a trading address of D Gotobed & Co. 330 Lodge Road, Birmingham but unsure what date it would be. Also found 1 reference to 350 Lodge Road.
Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 26 November 15 07:09 GMT (UK)
Is this him 1871? no pob given

RG10; Piece: 3132; Folio: 23; Page: 37
Surname transcribed as GATEBED
331 Lodge Road
Mary Russell  Head W 66
Janet  8 & William Thos.  Maidment 5 (niece & nephew)
David GOTOBED 30 boarder clerk (gas office)

Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 26 November 15 07:16 GMT (UK)
he's still at the same address in 1881 but not a gunmaker  ???

1881 RG11; Piece: 3008; Folio: 115; Page: 11
331 Lodge Road
David Gotobed 35 Stratford occ accountant

1891 RG12; Piece: 2399; Folio: 92; Page: 20
address 330 Lodge Road
David Gotobed 48   Stratford Living On Own Means   
Ada Ann Gotobed housekeeper
1 servant

Can you give details of the 1861 & 1891 census you have for your David Gotobed

Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: nyflint on Thursday 26 November 15 07:22 GMT (UK)
Thank you
Accountant! I wonder if I'm on the right track?
I only found 1 other D Gotobed borne 1841 Cambridge area I think.

1861
    GOTOBED   David   Head   M   M   52   Commercial Traveller    Cambridgeshire - Stratham    for ale and portr   
    GOTOBED   Margaret   Wife   M   F   49       Worcestershire - Feckenham       
    GOTOBED   Sarah M   Dau   U   F   21   Milliner And Dressmaker    Worcestershire - Feckenham       
    *GOTOBED*    David   Son   U   M   18   Cordwainer    Warwickshire - Stratford On Avon       
    GOTOBED   Margaret   Dau   U   F   16       Worcestershire - Hallow       
    GOTOBED   Caroline   Dau   -   F   14   Scholar    Worcestershire - St John's       
    GOTOBED   Elizabeth F   Dau   -   F   12   Scholar    Worcestershire - St John's       
    GOTOBED   John B   Son   -   M   10   Scholar    Worcestershire - Bromsgrove

1891
   GOTOBED   David   Head   S   M   48   Living On Own Means    Warwickshire - Stratford On Avon       
    GOTOBED   Ada Ann   Sislaw   M   F   41       Derbyshire - Derby    Relationship also says Housekeeper   
    JOHNSON   Olive   Servnt   S   F   30   Domestic    Staffordshire - Audley
Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 26 November 15 07:38 GMT (UK)
The David Gotobed on 1891 census living on own means, same servant with him on the latest census  he's a gas pensioner (this could be the same David from the 1871 census Clerk (gas fitter)
1911 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWZP-YC2

Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 26 November 15 07:43 GMT (UK)
1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSZ9-74J

David Gotobed occ Chief Exchange Clerk
Olive Johnson servant
Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 26 November 15 07:48 GMT (UK)
and this is the Death of the David Gotobed from 1901/1911c

David Gotobed of Yardley Fields Road Yardley Worcestershire died 23 July 1914
Probate 22 Aug 1914 Worcester to William Henry Gotobed retired auctioneer
Effects £9089 13s 8d

UK, Midlands and Various UK Trade Directories, 1770-1941
1904/1911/1912 Kelly's Directory of Birmingham
Gotobed David (Bard Villa, Yardley Yardley Fields Road, Yardley)

1896 Kelly's Directory of Birmingham
Gotobed David  330 Lodge Road

1851 HO107; Piece: 2047; Folio: 211; Page: 46
David Gotobed officer of Inland Revenue, Margaret,
Sarah M 11 William H 9, DAVID 8, Caroline 4, Elvia F 2 John B 3 mths
Sarah A Nutting 17 servant

David Gotobed Baptism 21 Apr 1843 Holy Trinity, Stratford On Avon
parents David Gotobed & Margaret

brother William Henry Gotobed bapt. 17 Jun 1841 Feckenham, Worcester

David's sister in law Ada Ann Gotobed (nee Butt) from 1891 c was married to his brother John B (Boulton) Gotobed he was boarding with the Glover's 1891 occ Hairdresser


Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: nyflint on Thursday 26 November 15 08:32 GMT (UK)
Doesn't look like that's the one I'm looking for then.
With what I presume is a fairly rare surname, I'd have thought it might be fairly easy.
My D Gotobed was obviously well trained up in the industry of gun making and must have been highly skilled.
Unless ............
It is possible he was a retailer and as often happened a Gunmaker would put the retailer's name on a piece. Retailers were usually hardware / ironmonger type outlets.

How could I check the business activity of D Gotobed & Co. 330 Lodge Road, Birmingham (1870-90 perhaps).
Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 26 November 15 10:40 GMT (UK)
Quote
My D Gotobed was obviously well trained up in the industry of gun making
Where has this information come from?
What is the last positive information you have on your D. Gotobed?
Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 26 November 15 13:47 GMT (UK)
I couldn't spot any person/s with surname Gotobed who were on the censuses as gunmakers  ???

This is all the info. I could find.....

http://www.amco-online.co.uk/gotobed/
D. Gotobed & Co. (Birmingham) 12g Hammer Gun

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gkf/
19th century English D Gotobed & Co 12 bore

http://www.woodcockhill.com/Trips/Guns/Guns%2016%20Bore.htm
161368   D. Gotobed

Perhaps you could drop them an email to see if they have more info.
Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: nyflint on Thursday 26 November 15 14:45 GMT (UK)
This is my proof
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Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: jim1 on Friday 27 November 15 12:09 GMT (UK)
Well I've had a good look around & there's very little on this Gunmaker.
He's obviously the same as Ladyhawk found & must have been involved in the gun trade over a short period between the censuses.
The trade involved a number of independent specialists such as barrel makers, stock makers, lock filers, engravers etc. & the parts assembled & proofed by the gunmaker & this is what he must have been doing.
Possibly what's happened is that he's bought a small business assembling sporting guns & simply stamped his name on them & then sold it on with the new owner doing the same.
Title: Re: Gotobed David June 1843 - information request
Post by: npurchas on Saturday 17 September 16 12:51 BST (UK)
Researching my childhood home and I have the old deeds and mortgages from 1876.

I have an original mortgage, on parchment, where, on 25 February 1885, Mr David Gotobed of 331 Lodge Road, Birmingham loaned £600 to Mr Martin William Maidment of Pitsford Street, Birmingham against surety of property and land in Prospect Road, Moseley.

David Gotobed's signature is clear.

Happy to provide a jpg if any use.