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Title: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Tuesday 24 November 15 00:15 GMT (UK)
I presume this photo was taken in England however it could also have been taken in USA. Anyone's thoughts on time frame greatly appreciated!
Maria
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo?
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 24 November 15 00:50 GMT (UK)
I'm going to suggest 1920s. Sweeping statement  - but the couple do not look to be of "English" heritage.

If you have the original photograph is there anything on the back, or embossed on the front, giving name of photographer or studio?

Unless you know who the couple are, and when and where they married, I don't think you will be able to narrow down location with a studio portrait like this.

And is that a wedding ring on his right hand? A European tradition?

Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo?
Post by: joboy on Tuesday 24 November 15 08:48 GMT (UK)
As a lover of 1920's Jazz I must agree with Ruskie.
If you follow the series 'The Boardwalk Empire'(era 1920's) you will see dresses very similar to the wedding dress in the photo.
The couple do seem to be perhaps of a Mediterranean background and I am tipping that if this is the case they may well have been recent arrivals in USA.
Joe
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo?
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 24 November 15 10:05 GMT (UK)
Agree with the others. Her headdress is a typical early-mid 1920's style & the photo doesn't have an English feel to it.
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo?
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 24 November 15 10:11 GMT (UK)
Lovely photo...I would agree with others that it is a 1920s photo and doesn't have that English look.
Nice one to have.
Carol
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Tuesday 24 November 15 20:44 GMT (UK)
Hi, thank you everyone for your contributions, I appreciate it very much, I know this is a long shot however it leaves me more mystified that ever as I don't know of any ancestor's marriage that would be within that time frame at least in the UK so perhaps USA? I don't know of any family connections in mainland Europe either.
This is a copy my sister-in-law sent me so I will contact her for those details of photographer if available!

I'm posting here a picture of my parents wedding in 1941 to see if any of you wonderful and experienced guys can find a resemblance with either of my parents. Once again many thanks to all of you.
Maria
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 24 November 15 23:53 GMT (UK)
I can see no resemblance at all between your parents (a very attractive couple) and the couple in the earlier photo.

It may be that the '20s photograph is a friend or relative's marriage which was sent to your family. I think many of us have inherited unidentifiable photos included with our family snaps - I have at least, I have no clue who they are but I know for a fact they are not relatives. I think my grandmother even had photos of children of friends in her album. ::)

It will be interesting to see if you sister in law can find a studio name on the original photo. I think I am right in saying there generally would be one - ask her to check carefully.  :)
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 25 November 15 07:54 GMT (UK)
Not necessarily Ruskie...It maybe a postcard in which case there wouldn't be photographer's name on it.
Carol
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Wednesday 25 November 15 18:26 GMT (UK)
Thank you once again for taking the time to look at my pictures. My sister-in-law said there is nothing at all on the back of the picture. I do remember that this picture was always on my father's chest of drawers in his bedroom ever since I can remember and it stood up in a brown cardboard frame which I presume would have had the photographer's name, unfortunately nobody would know where that is now as everything was put in boxes after my father passed on.

I had hoped someone would find a resemblance with my father as I thought that maybe this was his sister who was married in Birkenhead in 1939. The problem is we never knew knew any of my father's family until just a few years ago and they don't recognise the couple either! They must have been good friends of my father as has been suggested and so perhaps we will never know?

all the same a big thank you to each and everyone of you who have taken the time to look at my pictures.
Kindest regards,
Maria

Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: seemex on Wednesday 25 November 15 19:25 GMT (UK)
My advice....don't give up! Keep looking and keep going back to it! I've been able to ID photos after 20 years of looking at them, after spotting some detail in another photo, or even a newspaper announcement clipping that refers to what was worn at a wedding. I recently made an ID by an Auto Club badge on a car in 1930's Hong Kong....so keep at it. If it was important enough for him to keep all that time....it means something! Good luck!  :)
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 25 November 15 22:28 GMT (UK)
Not necessarily Ruskie...It maybe a postcard in which case there wouldn't be photographer's name on it.
Carol

Good point Carol.
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 25 November 15 22:35 GMT (UK)
Maria,

If this photo took pride of place in your father's bedroom then you would assume them to be close relatives. The photo is earlier than 1939 so not your father's sister.

Might they be your father's parents? When and where did they marry? There is not always a resemblance in families. :-\
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Thursday 26 November 15 17:30 GMT (UK)
Hello everyone who is helping out here and than thanks for Ruskie's wise advise. I don't think this is my grandfather's first wedding as he married my grandmother in Birmingham in 1899, however it just dawned on me today that perhaps it could be his second marriage which took place in Olton in 1919 ??? I'm attaching a picture of my grandfather with his second wife in Torquay in 1941 to see if you can see a resemblance? My grandfather would have been 40 years of age at time of his second marriage and his wife Florence would have been 29.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: josey on Thursday 26 November 15 18:26 GMT (UK)
Pity they are standing the other way round! And the bride looks so coquettish....

Does this help?
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: iolaus on Thursday 26 November 15 19:15 GMT (UK)
The man's ears look the same to me
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 26 November 15 19:18 GMT (UK)
Sorry but I'm not convinced that they are the same couple  :-\
Carol
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Thursday 26 November 15 22:58 GMT (UK)
That's a great job Josey, thank you very much. The man in both pictures have big ears, an outstanding feature in some of the males in my family. Does the Groom look to be about 40 years and the bride about 29-30? Looking at both pictures together the noses on both pictures are very similar for both of them, am I right? The difference in hight appears to be very similar en both pictures also?

Attaching another picture of my grandfather in 1901 when he was on his way to the Boer War, the quality is very bad as it is only a photocopy of the picture, he would have been 22 years.
Many thanks.
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Thursday 26 November 15 23:11 GMT (UK)
Sorry I forgot to post the attachment
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 27 November 15 11:08 GMT (UK)
I'm afraid I don't think the wedding couple match your grandfather and his second wife.
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Friday 27 November 15 21:05 GMT (UK)
I'm afraid I don't think the wedding couple match your grandfather and his second wife.

I am sure you are right Ruskie as no doubt my new found cousin would have recognized the picture immediately as his father worked with my grandfather for years and this cousin was always in and out of the business! I'm so grateful for all your help and everyone else on here who are so kind!
A big thank you!
Now, should I delete all these pictures as they would be taken up a lot of space on the website?
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 29 November 15 02:08 GMT (UK)
No I think it is fine to leave the photos.

You never know, in the future someone may come along who recognizes them.

A moderator will let you know if they want you to remove them.
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Thursday 03 December 15 22:25 GMT (UK)
Could this guy be the groom?
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Kevin Burrell on Thursday 03 December 15 22:38 GMT (UK)
I m no pro .. or even professional!, but to me the ears, eyebrows and noses match on both photos (bride and groom), both photos suggest the same height difference, shame you cannot see the cheekbones in the wedding photo...I wouldn't rule it out myself
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Kevin Burrell on Thursday 03 December 15 22:44 GMT (UK)
Probably should have mentioned I was referring to the first 2 photos posted (the ones that Josey then posted together for comparison
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 03 December 15 23:29 GMT (UK)
Could this guy be the groom?

Definitely not the groom in the first photo - I can't see any similarities at all.
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Friday 04 December 15 09:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone for your help!
Oh what a big disappointment :(

Is there any resemblance between this last picture and the Bride on the first wedding picture????
Because this man had two sisters who were married in Manchester, one in 1927 & the other in 1928. :-\

These people are the grandchildren of my father's aunt and godmother at baptism!

I'm so sorry to be giving you so much trouble!
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 04 December 15 09:24 GMT (UK)
I don't think so Maria. Hopefully others will chip in with their opinions. There is often no likeness between family members so that doesn't mean they are not related.

No trouble at all - no need to apologise.
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 04 December 15 09:30 GMT (UK)
I can't see a likeness either but then I am not at all like my sister...she is fair and blue eyed and I am dark with brown eyes.
Carol
Title: Re: Can anyone please give me a time frame for this photo of an unknown couple?
Post by: Maria Goretti on Friday 04 December 15 09:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you Ruskie & Carol you are so kind & helpful!
I will keep an open mind, I sent the wedding picture to this man's (last picture added) nephew in Australia to see if it could be his parents who married in Australia in 1937 however he said no, it's not, but he found a resemblance in the groom eyes with his father's?????