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Title: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: Grandad james on Thursday 22 July 04 17:45 BST (UK)
Hello ,
I am assisting a very close friend who is not internet connected.
His family are CULLUMBINE from  Worsbro area
and have in various census occurred with the variations Collumbine and Columbine.

They were at various numbers in  Pensioners Row Worsbro Common for 1881 1891 and 1901 and I am hoping to make contact with any one with any possible connections .
Any information would be most welcome.
Cheers  :)
Grandad james.
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: Ticker on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Grandad James

Sorry we have been so little help to you on this one. 

Have you made any progress,  or do you have any further details that could help someone to find what you are looking for?

Best wishes 

Ticker
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: Grandad james on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:55 GMT (UK)
Hello Ticker,
Many thanks for your message .
I have had a couple of useful replies from racey.

""Hi,

I have just seen your message on the Rootschat website. This is what I know about my branch of the Cullumbines:
William Cullumbine born 1812 in Mansfield, Nottingham. Married Bessy Denton 16/1/1832 Silkstone.
In 1851 they were living in Worsborough, with their children, Martha, Thomas, Harriet, Barbara and Ellen. William, Bessy, Martha and Ellen worked as linen weavers at this time.
By 1881 William and Bessy were publicans of the Wellington Inn in Jump, Barnsley. William died in 1883 and Bessy in 1896 aged 84.
Martha Cullumbine was my great great grandmother and I have a painting of her. Sometimes their name is spelt Columbine which is probably how I would have expected it to be spelt. It did cause me problems in the early days of researching.
Martha married Jonathan Lee and they had one son, John William. Their family lived in Jump up to my mother's generation.
I think it's pretty likely that our Cullumbines are connected. Now we just have to find out how!

Regards,

Racey ""

Hi,
I've just been sent an interesting letter from a gentleman in Morecambe. He enclosed a copy of the 1841 census for Worsbro and on it was my Cullumbine ancestors, William and Bessy, with children Harriet and Martha. Most interestingly, there was a James Cullumbine living at the same address. His age is given as 20 (slightly younger than your James Cullumbine would have been) and occupation as Linen Weaver. I wonder if this is your James Cullumbine. Unfortunately, it doesn't tell us the relationship between James and William (possibly brothers?)
I hope this is of some interest to you. Please let me know if you'd like me to email copies of the census.


Regards,

Clare Bell

and my friends info ....

Hello, Thank you so much for getting in contact.

My friends family ,as far as we have got , is descended from a James Cullumbine,born about 1817/18 and his place of birth is given as Sutton Yorks and also Sutton Notts in different census. He was shown as Linen weaver 1881/1891.
His son another James was born about 1852 in Worsbro.
This son James married a Margaret and they had 11 children
The family are at various addresses in Pensioners Row worsbrough  in 1881 1891 and 1901 .Under variations in spelling of the surname.
My friends Father John Cullumbine was born in 1905 at Shambles Street, Barnsley.

I would agree that a connection is more than likely and probably through your William and our James .

Possibly brothers..


Thats about it at the moment. 

Interestingly there are some on Genes Reunited but I have not received any feedback .Not unusual in my experience as with my One Name for Boorer I have had only about a 15% response . Changed my aftershave and had a haircut but no joy.. ;D

Thanks .
James.

Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: Fitty on Tuesday 16 November 04 19:34 GMT (UK)
Hiya Grandad,

I took the liberty of looking up your Cullumbine's on the NBI 2  There are quite a few, would you like them?

Fitty
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: Grandad james on Tuesday 16 November 04 22:09 GMT (UK)
Good evening fitty,

Love your Autumn leaves ..

Yes please ,I would appreciate them.

best wishes Grandad james. :-*
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: pinkangelfran on Thursday 25 November 04 13:35 GMT (UK)
Hello Ticker,
Many thanks for your message .
I have had a couple of useful replies from racey.

""Hi,

I have just seen your message on the Rootschat website. This is what I know about my branch of the Cullumbines:
William Cullumbine born 1812 in Mansfield, Nottingham. Married Bessy Denton 16/1/1832 Silkstone.
In 1851 they were living in Worsborough, with their children, Martha, Thomas, Harriet, Barbara and Ellen. William, Bessy, Martha and Ellen worked as linen weavers at this time.
By 1881 William and Bessy were publicans of the Wellington Inn in Jump, Barnsley. William died in 1883 and Bessy in 1896 aged 84.
Martha Cullumbine was my great great grandmother and I have a painting of her. Sometimes their name is spelt Columbine which is probably how I would have expected it to be spelt. It did cause me problems in the early days of researching.
Martha married Jonathan Lee and they had one son, John William. Their family lived in Jump up to my mother's generation.
I think it's pretty likely that our Cullumbines are connected. Now we just have to find out how!

Regards,

Racey ""

Hi,
I've just been sent an interesting letter from a gentleman in Morecambe. He enclosed a copy of the 1841 census for Worsbro and on it was my Cullumbine ancestors, William and Bessy, with children Harriet and Martha. Most interestingly, there was a James Cullumbine living at the same address. His age is given as 20 (slightly younger than your James Cullumbine would have been) and occupation as Linen Weaver. I wonder if this is your James Cullumbine. Unfortunately, it doesn't tell us the relationship between James and William (possibly brothers?)
I hope this is of some interest to you. Please let me know if you'd like me to email copies of the census.


Regards,

Clare Bell

and my friends info ....

Hello, Thank you so much for getting in contact.

My friends family ,as far as we have got , is descended from a James Cullumbine,born about 1817/18 and his place of birth is given as Sutton Yorks and also Sutton Notts in different census. He was shown as Linen weaver 1881/1891.
His son another James was born about 1852 in Worsbro.
This son James married a Margaret and they had 11 children
The family are at various addresses in Pensioners Row worsbrough  in 1881 1891 and 1901 .Under variations in spelling of the surname.
My friends Father John Cullumbine was born in 1905 at Shambles Street, Barnsley.

I would agree that a connection is more than likely and probably through your William and our James .

Possibly brothers..


Thats about it at the moment. 

Interestingly there are some on Genes Reunited but I have not received any feedback .Not unusual in my experience as with my One Name for Boorer I have had only about a 15% response . Changed my aftershave and had a haircut but no joy.. ;D

Thanks .
James.


Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: pinkangelfran on Thursday 25 November 04 13:39 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Don't know if this helps any, but I'm a Cullumbine. My father grew up in Farndon north Notts, his mother was Katherine, he had a brother Les and a sister Maureen. Unfortunately I have never heard him speak of his father, (My grandad) except his family were from Ireland.  :-\
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: Grandad james on Thursday 25 November 04 16:47 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Don't know if this helps any, but I'm a Cullumbine. My father grew up in Farndon north Notts, his mother was Katherine, he had a brother Les and a sister Maureen. Unfortunately I have never heard him speak of his father, (My grandad) except his family were from Ireland.  :-\

Hello,
Thank you so much for the contact.  :)
I would be very pleased to share any information and I would be more than willing to see if we could make a connection between my friends Cullumbines and yours.
I have a reasonable experience in researching and if you want to let me have some details ,probably by personal message would be best , then I could see if I could find any references in the BMDs that would help with finding out a bit more about your grandad.
Best wishes ,
Bye for now.
James,

Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: joybriars on Wednesday 18 May 05 22:26 BST (UK)
i am researching dorothy collumbine last known address lancashire but i think i may have found a link to quite a few collumbines in yorkshire 1928 - 1935 - any good to u?
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: Grandad james on Thursday 19 May 05 09:57 BST (UK)
Thanks for the contact.

I would be interested in anything you have re the connection
and then I can see if they feature anywhere in my friends tree.
Cheers James.
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: joybriars on Friday 20 May 05 19:51 BST (UK)
Does anyone know if John Collumbine born 1905 lived at Shambles St Bury is related to Dorothy Collumbine born 1928 please??
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: joybriars on Friday 10 June 05 22:15 BST (UK)
Re: Dorothy Collumbine - now have more information

Mothers name Nellie nee Mills, Father Stanley, 15 Selwyn St, Rotherham
Nellie and Stanley also had son called Ralph born Aug 1929 - still Selwyn St

Nellie and Stanley married Aug 1923 at St Stephens Church, Eastwood.  He was a window cleaner.  His fathers name - Mark Collumbine - blacksmiths striker.  Nellies fathers name Joseph Mills - steel worker.  Witnesses were Joseph Mills and Hilda Collumbine.

Nellie Mills born July 1990 - Father -  Joseph.  Mother - Clara.  Clara Mills lived at 31 Broad Street, Rawmarsh.

If anyone has any info I'd appreciate it.  Hope this links with someone.

Am also trying to go forward now from 1946 when Dorothy Collumbine lived in Blackpool but am totally stuck.
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: joybriars on Wednesday 18 January 06 19:23 GMT (UK)
Hello everyone.  I have traced back to Mark Cullumbine b 1831 Skeeby, Notts (1861 census - Worsbro Common) but have got stuck now.  Can anyone tell me how I can trace further back please.
 ???
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: 7igerby7he7ail on Saturday 28 January 06 21:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone

I have Harriet Cullumbine in my tree [b c1833 bp according to census Worsboro'] the daughter of William Cullumbine and Bessy.

Harriet married John Gaunt c1854 in Barnsley and they had at least 8 children.
William b 1856,Thomas b 1859, Alfred b 1862, Elizabeth b 1865, Martha b.1867, Eliza b 1869, Walter b 1869, Arthur b 1872.
John Gaunt was born in Newark On Trent in 1832.
The 1871 census has them in Barnsley where John is a publican
The 1881 census has them at Brampton Bierlow, York,
in 1891 they were at Swinton, Yorks.
John is described as a miner.


Tom Gaunt
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: joybriars on Monday 06 March 06 15:54 GMT (UK)
Hello Ticker,
Many thanks for your message .
I have had a couple of useful replies from racey.

""Hi,

I have just seen your message on the Rootschat website. This is what I know about my branch of the Cullumbines:
William Cullumbine born 1812 in Mansfield, Nottingham. Married Bessy Denton 16/1/1832 Silkstone.
In 1851 they were living in Worsborough, with their children, Martha, Thomas, Harriet, Barbara and Ellen. William, Bessy, Martha and Ellen worked as linen weavers at this time.
By 1881 William and Bessy were publicans of the Wellington Inn in Jump, Barnsley. William died in 1883 and Bessy in 1896 aged 84.
Martha Cullumbine was my great great grandmother and I have a painting of her. Sometimes their name is spelt Columbine which is probably how I would have expected it to be spelt. It did cause me problems in the early days of researching.
Martha married Jonathan Lee and they had one son, John William. Their family lived in Jump up to my mother's generation.
I think it's pretty likely that our Cullumbines are connected. Now we just have to find out how!

Regards,

Racey ""

Hi,
I've just been sent an interesting letter from a gentleman in Morecambe. He enclosed a copy of the 1841 census for Worsbro and on it was my Cullumbine ancestors, William and Bessy, with children Harriet and Martha. Most interestingly, there was a James Cullumbine living at the same address. His age is given as 20 (slightly younger than your James Cullumbine would have been) and occupation as Linen Weaver. I wonder if this is your James Cullumbine. Unfortunately, it doesn't tell us the relationship between James and William (possibly brothers?)
I hope this is of some interest to you. Please let me know if you'd like me to email copies of the census.


Regards,

Clare Bell

and my friends info ....

Hello, Thank you so much for getting in contact.

My friends family ,as far as we have got , is descended from a James Cullumbine,born about 1817/18 and his place of birth is given as Sutton Yorks and also Sutton Notts in different census. He was shown as Linen weaver 1881/1891.
His son another James was born about 1852 in Worsbro.
This son James married a Margaret and they had 11 children
The family are at various addresses in Pensioners Row worsbrough  in 1881 1891 and 1901 .Under variations in spelling of the surname.
My friends Father John Cullumbine was born in 1905 at Shambles Street, Barnsley.

I would agree that a connection is more than likely and probably through your William and our James .

Possibly brothers..


Thats about it at the moment. 

Interestingly there are some on Genes Reunited but I have not received any feedback .Not unusual in my experience as with my One Name for Boorer I have had only about a 15% response . Changed my aftershave and had a haircut but no joy.. ;D

Thanks .
James.


my tree shows William b 1840 son of George and Hannah in 1871 living at 13 Pensioners Row.  Any help to you?
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: colaine on Monday 06 March 06 18:43 GMT (UK)
I have a Hannah Columbine 1844-1922 born Worsboro common
father James 1831-1863   (weaver) mother Mary (formerley Carlisle )

Hannah married James Mcgrath (weaver) in 1863 in Barnsley

hope this helps
Collaine
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: Grandad james on Monday 06 March 06 19:06 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Unfortunatelky my friend has decided not to continue with his research at present .
He suffered a very close bereavement recently.

I have returned the info to him.   Sorry .

James.
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: joybriars on Monday 06 March 06 20:55 GMT (UK)
Thank you both
Title: Re: CULLUMBINE -Collumbine -Columbine.
Post by: wallis7090 on Sunday 31 March 24 12:36 BST (UK)
About 20 years ago I inherited my late father’s extensive research on the Cullumbine/Columbine family which started around 1700 in Nottingham, but gradually moved to Yorkshire.  Just as I was getting to grips with it all, my husband died suddenly, soon after I was disabled in a car accident, and lots of other things happened.  Now I’m 72 I’m keen to share my information.  Some wills tie a lot of loose ends together.