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Title: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: AnitaWellard on Tuesday 10 November 15 17:42 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Is their any way of finding out a mothers maiden name pre 1813.

Thank you
Title: Re: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 November 15 17:48 GMT (UK)
Hi - does this relate to your other thread?

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733956.0

In relation to children born within marriage: sometimes, but rarely, there are contemporaneous documents specifically documenting a mother's maiden name in the period before civil registration (e.g. Dade registers, some nonconformist baptism registers, family Bibles).  However, in the overwhelming majority of cases it is a question of finding the father's full name and mother's given name at the child's baptism and then attempting to trace a marriage for that couple.
Title: Re: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: AnitaWellard on Tuesday 10 November 15 18:28 GMT (UK)
Hi,

 Yes it does relate to my other post.

Thank you for your advice.
Title: Re: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: lisalucie on Tuesday 10 November 15 19:13 GMT (UK)
Only on a few of mine I've found the Mothers maiden name mentioned on the baptism records - helpfully the one even listed maternal grandparents - this was on a Primitive Methodist baptism c.1810.

Other than it being mentioned on a baptism I've confirmed one also on 1851 census with the Mother in Law living with the family....but if no luck with these then I'm stuck. Hope this helps a bit.

Lisa
Title: Re: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: AnitaWellard on Wednesday 11 November 15 12:17 GMT (UK)
Thank you
Title: Re: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: coombs on Wednesday 11 November 15 12:50 GMT (UK)
It can also depend on how common the surname of the couple was and their first names. Ie if you find a John Smith baptised in 1810 in a London parish to John and Mary Smith, there could be many such marriages c1790-1810, and they may not even have wed in London.

Durham has Dade registers which gave extra info, even parish of origin of parents. I even know some Suffolk registers which gave mmn before 1813 as well as after. Hacheston was a parish that gave mmn until about 1830ish.
Title: Re: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: AnitaWellard on Wednesday 11 November 15 17:07 GMT (UK)
Hi

Is there a dade register for Northenden. If so where would I find it?

Thank you
Title: Re: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 11 November 15 17:24 GMT (UK)
Sorry, Dade registers are almost always found in Yorkshire parishes, although there are a few odd ones dotted around the country.  :'(  Alsager, Macclesfield and Witton are the only ones in Cheshire.

Similar registers are found in other areas, Reverend Shute Barrington, Bishop of Salisbury from 1783 and then as Bishop of Durham from 1789, used the same type of format, naming parents and grandparents at baptisms.
Title: Re: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: coombs on Wednesday 11 November 15 22:32 GMT (UK)
Dr Williams Library. They have some good info on anyone whose birth was registered with them.
Title: Re: Mothers Maiden Name
Post by: AnitaWellard on Friday 27 November 15 18:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Following on from the emails on the topic of mothers maiden name. I was completely thrown by the occupation of James on Georges baptism record (weaver) Also their were two different mothers suggesting two marriages as one lady kindly pointed out to me on Rootschat. Confused I put the information in my "shoebox". You can image my delight when  going through a book of headstone transcriptions at St Wilfrids, Northenden I came across the family. In the one grave their was James his two wives Ann and Mary + children + George and Mary. Another generation confidently added to my tree.

Thank you for all your help