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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: Kipper5 on Sunday 08 November 15 22:00 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to the find more about the parents of Margaret Brown from St Quivox/Newton on Ayr. If I could only find a post-1854 Scottish birth/marriage/death record for her, I would ascertain her mother Mary's maiden name, and hence more about her Brown roots. But I am having difficulty.
She appears in the 1841 census in Newton on Ayr. Parents are John Brown and Mary Brown.
Margaret is age 15 (but probably rounded), born in Ayrshire. I think she was born in 1823 in St Quivox/Newton.
She has siblings Alexander and James, but I have hit a wall with them, and so am concentrating on Margaret for now.
I think Margaret married Robert Anderson, weaver in St Quivox in 1849 and there are census records for them in St Quivox until 1871. From the census records they seem to have had Jane in 1851 and Hugh c1852 and John c1866, all born in St Quivox. (there was also William and John, born before they were married)
Can anyone find what happened to them after 1871? Or find a birth record for any of the children?
Thank you.
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You are correct about her marriage to Robert Anderson,I will dig out my files later today to check the rest for you.
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Margaret Brown
Baptism 6 Apr 1821
St Quivox And Newton Ayrshire
Father John Mother Mary Niel
Colin
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Wow, that's fantastic! Thank you, Colin.
I'd become quite bogged down with it. There are so many Browns in the area.
You don't happen to know when Margaret's brother, Alexander Brown was born, do you?
So pleased..
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1881 - 77, Cross Street, St Quivox, Ayr, Ayrshire
Robert Anderson Head Married 76 1805 Weaver St Quivox, Ayrshire, Scotland
Martha Anderson Wife - 65 1816 - Newton, Ayrshire, Scotland
Hugh Anderson Son - 20 1861 Slater St Quivox, Ayrshire, Scotland
So either Martha is mistranscribed or Robert Remarried.
Colin
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Hi all ,
Was Robert's first wife Martha ?
1841 Census transcription
Cross Street , St Quivox , Ayrshire(all born Ayrshire)
Robert Anderson 30 cotton hand loom weaver
Martha Anderson 30
Robt Anderson 5
Wm Anderson 3
1851 Census transcription
Cross Street , Wallacetown , St Quivox , Ayrshire(all born Ayrshire)
Robert Anderson 38 cotton weaver b. St Quivox
Margt Anderson 28 wife b. Newton
Robt. Anderson 14 son b. St Quivox
Wm Anderson 12 son b. St Quivox
Jane Anderson 2 months dau. b. St Quivox
( http://www.freecen.org.uk/ )
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1841 Main Street, Newton on Ayr, Ayrshire
John Brown 65 1776 Ayrshire, Scotland
Mary Brown 45 1796 Ayrshire, Scotland
Alexander Brown 20 1821 Ayrshire, Scotland
Margaret Brown 15 1826 Ayrshire, Scotland
James Brown 10 1831 Ayrshire, Scotland
Unable to find birth record for Alexander or James
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Was the dob for John mistranscribed in 1841 because I found
1851 Wallace Street, St Quivox
John Brown 65 b Ayr
Mary Brown 56 b Maybole
Mary Brown Daughter 8 b Newton
Terry
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Some info' regards Robert Anderson.......married first wife Martha Maxwell 1833....children Robert 1835..william 1838..john1844
Second wife Maggie BROWN MAR.1849.....Children,,,,,Mary 1857.....hugh 1860....james 1864.Hope this is some help
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PS Robert died in1882 Maggie died in 1910.
PPS do you live in Dumfries?
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Thank you everyone for all your prompt replies.
Colin, regarding the 1841 census record with John and Mary Brown (and children Margaret, Alexander and James), I also think John's age has been mistranscibed and should be as it is in the 1851 census record, i.e. c1786. I haven't been able to find out further info for them after 1851. (There is a 1871 census record and subsequent 1877 death record for a Mary Brown nee Shaw, widow of John Brown, seaman in Troon but I wanted to confirm if she was Shaw by checking out daughter Margaret's later records).
Nanville, thank you for your info on the Anderson family. I do indeed see that Margaret was probably the second wife. I will check out the birth records for the children born after 1855, and the 1910 death record for Margaret herself, and should confirm Margaret's maiden name. It may well be Shaw or Niel, as suggested as Colin.
Nanville, you don't happened to know where Margaret lived in later years, do you? Did she stay in Ayr?
Thanks again.
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Hello Kipper, this is the facts Margaret Brown born 1821 died 1898 in Ayr district her mother was Mary Niven and her father was John Brown he was a whale fisherman.
Margaret was 67 years old when she died.
Hope this helps you to move on.......Danny.
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Just had a thought,no wonder you couldn't find them,with all the confusing info.that you have been given........Regards Danny.
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Thank you, Danny, that's fab.
Whale fisherman?!
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More commonly known as a whaler.