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Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Friday 06 November 15 20:01 GMT (UK)
I have a 5x GG Andrew Latue, born in Co. Durham in 1751. His name does not sound English and I had thought that it was probably French and that the family were displaced Huguenot's. However, on looking up the name in FamilySearch, there were a number of entries from the Netherlands and particularly Amsterdam. I am ideally, looking for a Latue that died in England but was born in the Netherlands, to try to connect with my Andrew. Can anyone advise me, whether there are immigration records, going back to the 1700's, that would list entrants from the Netherlands. I have no idea, what port they would use, as there were none, to my knowledge, on the NE coast of England. Any ideas as to how I could follow this up?
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 06 November 15 22:45 GMT (UK)
I don't think there are any immigration records?

And why couldn't they use Newcastle Upon Tyne? Just as they do today?
(DFDS sail Newcastle to Rotterdam!)
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Friday 06 November 15 23:14 GMT (UK)
Hi KGarrard,

Thanks for the reply and fair comment about Newcastle! If there are no immigration records, then I am stumped.
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: Rena on Saturday 07 November 15 00:47 GMT (UK)
Good luck !!  I've never heard of the surname and it doesn't seem to appear in the national archives because the only results that came  when searching for "Latue" was "Latus".  Surfing only brought up a "Jose Latue" who was Spanish.

Below is the Surname Distribution map, which shows that approximately 1,302 people bear this surname.

Besides the UK the other main country showing is Indonesia, which was/is part of the Dutch East Indies, so your thinking it might be Dutch could be correct. 

http://forebears.io/surnames/latue
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 07 November 15 07:07 GMT (UK)
If Andrew was born in County Durham, have you found his baptism?
That would give his father's name.

If you have his father's name then the place to try is the Dutch website www.wiewaswie.nl/en/home
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Saturday 07 November 15 08:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Rena/KGarrard
Thanks for your replies. The only information I have on Andrew Latue is:-

Andrew Lettue buried 31 Dec 1828 aged 77 Kelloe, Durham

I also know that he married Isabella Wilson in Pittington, Co. Durham in 1779. I have not found any further information. Notice here his name is spelled differently and on his marriage it was Lettew, so very confusing. I have had this problem before, as most of my ancestors in this branch, could not read or write, so their names were often misspelled.
I have recently taken a DNA test and my ethnicity does reflect 6% Western Europe.
Thanks for taking an interest in my problem.
Bill
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 07 November 15 08:35 GMT (UK)
So, you don't know where he was born?
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Saturday 07 November 15 11:32 GMT (UK)
Hi,
No I only know what I have presented above. I know that his burial was registered in Easington district, at Hetton on the Hill, Pittington Parish. He also married in Pittington, but whether he was born there, I have no proof, but am still looking. On Durham Online, his name on death is shown as Lettue.

Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 07 November 15 12:08 GMT (UK)
So, your original remark was wrong?

I have a 5x GG Andrew Latue, born in Co. Durham in 1751.

Sorry - I am just getting confused by different statements? ??? ;D
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: sugarbakers on Saturday 07 November 15 15:15 GMT (UK)
Just checked Hans Bahlow's "German Names".

Nothing even close to Latue, however looking for Lettue gives ...

Lettow : Slavic, in Pomerania.
Lettau : in East Prussia.
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Saturday 07 November 15 17:04 GMT (UK)
Apologies, if I have confused you, but my very first sentence of my original Topic was:-I have a 5x GG 'Andrew Latue, born in Co. Durham in 1751'
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Saturday 07 November 15 17:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Sugarbakers

Thanks for that. The surname has been, Latue, Lettow and Lettue, so there may be a Slavic connection. I will have to recheck my DNA results to see whether there was any Slavic elements, I know that I am 6% western European. I have also seen a Jacob Latue, born in Amsterdam in 1720, just old enough to be Andrew's father, but that is flying a kite!!
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: Rena on Saturday 07 November 15 17:55 GMT (UK)
I got some interesting results when I searched on this genealogy website for:

"Andreas Let"

and

Andreas Lat"

http://gedbas.genealogy.net/
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 07 November 15 20:07 GMT (UK)
Apologies, if I have confused you, but my very first sentence of my original Topic was:-I have a 5x GG 'Andrew Latue, born in Co. Durham in 1751'

But, you also told me you didn't know where he was born? ???
Hi Rena/KGarrard
Thanks for your replies. The only information I have on Andrew Latue is:-

Andrew Lettue
Gender:   Male
Age:   77
Birth Date:   1751
Burial Date:   31 Dec 1828
Burial Place:   Kelloe, Durham, County
FHL Film Number:   1514663
Reference ID:   p 22 cn 174

Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Saturday 07 November 15 20:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Rena,
Thanks I will have a look at the link tomorrow.
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Saturday 07 November 15 20:27 GMT (UK)
KGarrard

At the risk of prolonging this debate. I had clearly said that he was born in Durham i.e. the county, and my not knowing where he was born, meant that I did not know what parish, town or village, in Durham, he was born in.

 Apologies for any confusion.
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: Rena on Saturday 07 November 15 23:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Rena,
Thanks I will have a look at the link tomorrow.

The reason I searched for the name Andrew/Andreas was in case he had been named in favour of a paternal grandfather and also quite often a specific given name can be popular in an area of a country (e.g. the given name of Kenneth was popular in an area of the Highlands of Scotland due to a clan chief).  Unfortunately it's not going to be a five minute job looking through the list for all the spellings of the surname that you've already encountered. 
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: klslim on Friday 01 July 16 01:12 BST (UK)
Not sure I can help out with origin of the name, but it appears we share an interest in Andrew Latue who is my 4X GG. I am relatively (no pun intended) new to RootsChat.com and genealogy and just came across your 2015 inquiry.

I discovered my connection to the Latue family while researching my Rutherford ancestors. My 2nd GG Thomas Rotherford married Catherine Latue (bn 1810), daughter of Robert Latue (1782-1847) and granddaughter of Andrew Latue (1751-1828).  It is difficult to trace the Latue lineage as there are many variations of the spelling including: Lathew, Latehew, Lattew, Lettew, Latu and in one instance Latio. My interest in the Latue name heightened when I discovered a number of Andrew Latue Rutherford's in my Rutherford tree. I suspect this is related to Catherine's younger brother Andrew Latue (1812-1842), whose accidental death at age 30 left him without a son to carry on his name. Unfortunately, I haven't bean able to work beyond Andrew Latue (1751-1828).

I suspect that Latue was originally a French name and through countless years of phonetic spellings evolved into a few "standard" versions. Unsure of protocol for providing email addresses. Please let me know if you wish further information.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: barryd on Friday 01 July 16 03:02 BST (UK)
Durham Records Online site has many pages of the Latue and similar names.
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Friday 01 July 16 07:25 BST (UK)
Durham Records Online site has many pages of the Latue and similar names.

Hi Barry,

I will have a look, thanks!

Regards
Bill
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Friday 01 July 16 08:02 BST (UK)
Not sure I can help out with origin of the name, but it appears we share an interest in Andrew Latue who is my 4X GG. I am relatively (no pun intended) new to RootsChat.com and genealogy and just came across your 2015 inquiry.

I discovered my connection to the Latue family while researching my Rutherford ancestors. My 2nd GG Thomas Rotherford married Catherine Latue (bn 1810), daughter of Robert Latue (1782-1847) and granddaughter of Andrew Latue (1751-1828).  It is difficult to trace the Latue lineage as there are many variations of the spelling including: Lathew, Latehew, Lattew, Lettew, Latu and in one instance Latio. My interest in the Latue name heightened when I discovered a number of Andrew
Latue Rutherford's in my Rutherford tree. I suspect this is related to Catherine's younger brother Andrew Latue (1812-1842), whose accidental death at age 30 left him without a son to carry on his name. Unfortunately, I haven't bean able to work beyond Andrew Latue (1751-1828).

I suspect that Latue was originally a French name and through countless years of phonetic spellings evolved into a few "standard" versions. Unsure of protocol for providing email addresses. Please let me know if you wish further information.

Cheers!

Hi,
If you wish to send a Personal Message, I have clicked on your name and you then have the facility to send a private message. Unfortunately, I think that you have to post a minimum of 3 posts, before this feature becomes available. So I am having to send this openly.

I am very interested in seeing your tree. Mine is public on Ancestry, if you are a member. Just look up Birchall and Hawkins Family Tree Reunited. Have you taken a DNA test as I have. That would prove a genetic connection. Catherine Latue, was my 1st cousin 5x removed. As according to the records, we both share Andrew Latue as a great grandfather then we must be distant cousins. I would love to prove this genetically.
I live with my Wife in High Wycombe, Bucks., but my father was born in Spennymoor, Co. Durham. I very much look forward to hearing from you.
Best Wishes
Bill
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: klslim on Saturday 02 July 16 01:59 BST (UK)
Hello Bill!

A lovely Canada Day surprise. Looking forward to comparing notes. I haven't posted my tree publicly yet but have been planning on doing so in the next week or two. Will let you know as soon as I do. I'm not on Ancestry.com but I may be able to see publicly posted trees. Will soon discover. My grandfather William Rutherford emigrated to Canada and I reside in Kamloops, British Columbia, with my wife and son. I have to run out to partake in the celebrations but will follow up with you in a few days via personal message. Thanks so much for your response. Happy Canada Day!

Cheers

Christopher (klslim)
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Saturday 02 July 16 08:44 BST (UK)
Hi Christopher,

I do hope that we find that we are related, that would be great. My wife andI have been to Canada on Canada Day several years ago, in Jasper, and boy Do you celebrate. We had no idea it was Canada Day and had great difficulty finding accommodation. We then travelled to Vancouver via Kamloops. I remember staying overnight and having a great meal, perched on a ridge, looking down at the confluence of rivers. I hope that you and your family have a wonderful Canada Day, and look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes
Bill Birchall
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: Crisrbow on Sunday 17 November 19 16:54 GMT (UK)
Hi, I have been researching the Latue name for my husband for some years. The Latue name was given as a middle name for many years and the story was that it was in memory of a French Huguenot connection. Be happy to hear from anyone and to share information

Kind regards

Cris
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Sunday 17 November 19 18:57 GMT (UK)
Hi, I have been researching the Latue name for my husband for some years. The Latue name was given as a middle name for many years and the story was that it was in memory of a French Huguenot connection. Be happy to hear from anyone and to share information

Kind regards

Cris


Hi Cris,
I started this thread in Nov 2015 “ I have a 5x GG Andrew Latue, born in Co. Durham in 1751. His name does not sound English and I had thought that it was probably French and that the family were displaced Huguenot's. However, on looking up the name in FamilySearch, there were a number of entries from the Netherlands and particularly Amsterdam. I am ideally, looking for a Latue that died in England but was born in the Netherlands, to try to connect with my Andrew. Can anyone advise me, whether there are immigration records, going back to the 1700's, that would list entrants from the Netherlands. I have no idea, what port they would use, as there were none, to my knowledge, on the NE coast of England. Any ideas as to how I could follow this up?”.
I would be delighted to share information and look forward to hearing from you perhaps by PM,  Bill
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: Crisrbow on Sunday 17 November 19 19:44 GMT (UK)
Hi there

My husband is descended from Andrew Latue's daughter Margaret who married a Joseph Booth. It's true that many Huguenots went to the Netherlands to live but I believe the Family story that this branch began in France.

Cris
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Sunday 17 November 19 20:07 GMT (UK)
Hi there

My husband is descended from Andrew Latue's daughter Margaret who married a Joseph Booth. It's true that many Huguenots went to the Netherlands to live but I believe the Family story that this branch began in France.

Cris
  I have them both on my tree with Margaret being my 1st cousin 5 removed. However, I have her father as Robert Latue with Andrew being his father. So Margaret would be Andrews granddaughter. Bill
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: Crisrbow on Monday 18 November 19 09:45 GMT (UK)
You are right of course, Robert was father of Margaret not Andrew!. Margaret's son Joseph Latue Booth married Margaret Jane Outterside in 1869. Their daughter Elizabeth Ann was born 1873, she married Benjamin Parkins Heron in 1894, then Thomas Edward Riddell in 1897. Thomas and Margaret had three sons, Harry Latue Riddell was my husband's father. The Latue name Margaret Latue insisted was to be carried on to remember the French Huguenot connection. I believe all her sons had Latue as a middle name.

We live in Yorkshire now but I was born and brought up in Co.Durham, my husband was brought up in Durham from age 3 so we are both very familiar with the places the Latues lived in.  We are going into Durham tomorrow and will be very near Pittington in fact.

Cris
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Monday 18 November 19 10:53 GMT (UK)
You are right of course, Robert was father of Margaret not Andrew!. Margaret's son Joseph Latue Booth married Margaret Jane Outterside in 1869. Their daughter Elizabeth Ann was born 1873, she married Benjamin Parkins Heron in 1894, then Thomas Edward Riddell in 1897. Thomas and Margaret had three sons, Harry Latue Riddell was my husband's father. The Latue name Margaret Latue insisted was to be carried on to remember the French Huguenot connection. I believe all her sons had Latue as a middle name.

We live in Yorkshire now but I was born and brought up in Co.Durham, my husband was brought up in Durham from age 3 so we are both very familiar with the places the Latues lived in.  We are going into Durham tomorrow and will be very near Pittington in fact.

Cris

Hi Cris,
Thanks for the info. I shall now expand the Latue Family tree. Just out of interest, I have a couple of questions.1) Has your husband or a relative taken a DNA test, as it would be good to confirm that we are genetically connected. 2) Have you contacted the Huguenot Society to see if you can confirm that connection?
We have just moved to Staffordshire after 35 years in the South East in High Wycombe. This was to move nearer to our son's family. I have been to Durham once to visit my father's birthplace, in Spennymoor. We now live in a village called Yoxall. If you wish to view my tree it is Public on Ancestry and is called Birchall and Hawkins Family Tree-Latest. Bill
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: Crisrbow on Monday 18 November 19 11:47 GMT (UK)
My husband won't hear of DNA I'm afraid. Not sure if either of our sons would as they are not interested in Family History at all , yet. We do have a photograph of Elizabeth Ann Booth  and her sister who lived with Lizzie as she was known

Cris
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: billbir on Monday 18 November 19 17:47 GMT (UK)
My husband won't hear of DNA I'm afraid. Not sure if either of our sons would as they are not interested in Family History at all , yet. We do have a photograph of Elizabeth Ann Booth  and her sister who lived with Lizzie as she was known

Cris
Hi Cris, Sorry to hear that your husband is anti DNA. It is a very simple process that allows for confirmation of the accuracy of your tree. However, you do have to be prepared for surprises some good some bad. If you are not prepared to accept that, then do not do it. I found that the top three DNA contacts I had not heard of and they had not heard of me. After some detective work by me and one  of the three it was agreed that they were the result of an affair my GG Grandfather had with their GG Grandmother. We get on famously and my wife and I have been invited to family get togethers. Yes you have to be inquisitive and thick skinned. Bill
Title: Re: Name Latue - country of origin.
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 19 November 19 09:23 GMT (UK)
Latue - County Durham
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