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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: Juno1974 on Monday 02 November 15 00:07 GMT (UK)
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My great grandfather was William O Connell born in Mallow sometime in the 1840's. Married Ellen (Nellie) Hutchinson. Joined the British army and lived in South Africa, Scotland, and Cork City Died 1943. I am looking for information on his exact birthplace and family.
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RE Registers are onlinem free at registers.nli.ie
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thanks for that I wasn't aware of that resource despite numerous searches :)
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Welcome to rootschat Ursula Noonan
If you have the record of their marriage showing William's father's name - this will help you to search
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My great grandfather was William O Connell born in Mallow sometime in the 1840's. Married Ellen (Nellie) Hutchinson. Joined the British army and lived in South Africa, Scotland, and Cork City Died 1943. I am looking for information on his exact birthplace and family.
Did they have any children born in Scotland? Scottish certificates contain far more detail than Irish ones and birth certificates list date and place of parents' marriage.
Have you located the family in any census records, etc.? any details might help trace William's family in Ireland.
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Could this be his marriage record? LINK (http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/8b15716784488)
It is William OConnell to Nellie HUTCHINSON on Oct 19th 1905 CORK Q4 V5 P79
which would make him 60ish when he married?
Two Children - George 1908 and Ellen 1909 - LINK (http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?namefm=&namel=connell&exact=&name2fm=&name2l=&location=&yyfrom=&yyto=¢ury=&decade=&sort=&pageSize=100&ddBfrom=&mmBfrom=&yyBfrom=1905&ddMfrom=&mmMfrom=&yyMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddPfrom=&mmPfrom=&yyPfrom=&ddBto=&mmBto=&yyBto=1920&ddMto=&mmMto=&yyMto=&ddDto=&mmDto=&yyDto=&ddPto=&mmPto=&yyPto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&locationP=&keywordb=hutchinson&keywordm=&keywordd=&keywordp=&event=&district=Cork&submit=Search)
There is also a possible child born in Dublin in 1906 William - LINK (http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?namefm=&namel=connell&exact=&name2fm=&name2l=&location=&yyfrom=&yyto=¢ury=&decade=&sort=&pageSize=100&ddBfrom=&mmBfrom=&yyBfrom=1905&ddMfrom=&mmMfrom=&yyMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddPfrom=&mmPfrom=&yyPfrom=&ddBto=&mmBto=&yyBto=1920&ddMto=&mmMto=&yyMto=&ddDto=&mmDto=&yyDto=&ddPto=&mmPto=&yyPto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&locationP=&keywordb=hutchinson&keywordm=&keywordd=&keywordp=&event=&district=Dublin&submit=Search)
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This seems to be the full name of young William born 1906
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBGX-CJQ
he appears to be on the English census 1911 age 4 overseas military,born Dublin
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I think that may possibly be the same person. His wife Nellie died nearly 30 yrs after him I always assumed he died young however if he was in his sixties that would explain him dying so much earlier. Also I would be completely out on the birth date. The only child I know of was my grandfather Albert o Connell born 1911 in Pretoria South Africa. Thanks for all that information it's all very fascinating
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Robert Agnew married Annie Hutchinson 22 Dec 1893,Belfast
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/5937097055155
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Island_Street/225597/
is this Nellie with them in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Victoria/Nursery_View/1222467/
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In light of my findings and dathai's I'd suggest you purchase their marriage certificate
http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx
The 1911 census for Mauritius and South Africa shows
Ellen O'Connell aged 26 b. Newry, Co. Down
William Robert Edward aged 4 b. Dublin
George James aged 3 b. Cork
Ellen Mary aged 1 b. Cork
which ties in with your original information on the family
Knowing William and Ellen's fathers names and occupations would best help prove their parents and birth records.
There is an online tree at ancestry that is very detailed for this family
It shows William's headstone in St. Finbarr's in Cork and that he died Jan 08 1943
Ellen died Nov 22 1970; son Denis Aug 01 1963 and George on feb 11 1985
There is a wedding photograph of the couple and further family members detailed
including Albert and that he died Mar 29 1973 - it is well documented with source material
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That's great thanks for that information it seems very likely that this is them. I will follow those leads. Many Thanks.