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I am doing a one name study of Mortons/Murtons in Northumberland and the southern bank of the Tyne from South Shields to Ryton.
I have more than 3,800 parish register entries going up to 1841 and in addition I have wills, admons, Marriage Bonds, Legal cases, Militia lists, Hearth tax, newspaper entries, etc. and all the entries in the 1841 and 1851 censuses including strays.
I'm happy to look anything up for you if you have a query.
Andrew Morton
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Hello andygmandrew! My great aunt, Isabella King, married Edward Morton b 1858 in Cramlington, NBL. I have only gotten the Morton family back a few generations from Edward. I am more than willing to share any and all information I have on their descendants. Do you have any additional information on Edward's ancestors. May I please hear from you? Sincerely, patrexjax
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Hi there!
I'll have a look at my records shortly and get back to you. Hope I can help.
Andrew
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Can you tell me the names of Edward's parents as two Edward Mortons were born in Cramlington in 1858? I'm guessing they were James and Ann, but....
Kind regards,
Andrew
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Hello! I believe that "my" Edward Morton was the son of Edward Morton b abt 1826 in Houghton, Co Durham and Ann Lawson - they married in 1852 in Tynemouth dist., NBL. They seem to have been coal miners.....no surprise there! ;D patrexjax
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Hi,
I've made some progress although it's tricky as my records really end in 1841 mostly, although I have patchy coverage after that including 1851 census and newspapers.
So far I've found this:
Ancestry of Edward Morton, Born 1858 at Cramlington.
Parents: Edward Morton and Ann Lawson married at Tynemouth 1852
Marriages: At Cramlington, on the 10th inst. Mr Edward Morton to Miss Anne Lawson. (Newcastle Guardian and Tyne Mercury, 15th of May 1852)
Obviously their marriage certificate would give fathers' names and occupations.
1841 Census for Brunton Row, Gosforth, Northumberland;
Brunton Row, East Brunton, Gosforth, Northumberland
Edward Morton 40 Coal Miner Born in Northumberland
Elizabeth Morton 40 Born in Northumberland
Sarah Morton 15 Born in Northumberland
Sarah daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Morton, Fawdon, Pitman, baptised 22 June, 1822 at Newcastle All Saints
Thomas Morton 15 Coal Miner Born in Northumberland
Thomas son of Edward and Elizabeth Murton of Houghton le spring, Pitman, baptised 20 September 1824 at Gosforth
Edward Morton 14 Coal Miner Born in Northumberland
Edward son of Edward and Elizabeth Morton, Pitman of Easington Lane, baptised 12 November 1826 at Houghton-le-Spring
Mary Morton 12 Born in Northumberland
Mary daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Murton, Fawdon, Pitman, baptised 5 April, 1829 at Newcastle All Saints
William Morton 10 Coal Miner Born in Northumberland
William son of Edward and Elizabeth Morton of Fawdon, Pitman, baptised 4 September 1831 at Gosforth
James Morton 7 Born in Northumberland
James son of Edward and Elizabeth Morton of Fawdon, Pitman, baptised 25 August 1833 at Gosforth
John Morton 5 Born in Northumberland
John son of Edward and Elizabeth Murton of Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 12 March 1837 at Gosforth
Not living with the family was Charles Morton
Newcastle All Saints Baptismal Register
Charles son of Edward and Elizabeth Murton, Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 23 December, 1820
Newcastle St Andrew Marriage Register
Chas. Morton (x), minor, Bachelor, Pitman, Percy Street, father Edward Morton, Pitman and Hannah Armstrong (x), minor, Spinster, ---, Percy Street, father Thos. Armstrong, Joiner, by Banns, married 12th of December 1840. Wit. Robert Hall, Jane Dobson
Tynemouth Parish Marriage Register:
Edward Morton, bachelor of this parish and Elizabeth Dodds, spinster of this parish, by Banns, married 22nd of August 1819. Wit. James Pye, R. G. Akers
There are a couple of baptisms of Edward Mortons which seem to fit, however, as the 1841 census rounded ages down by up to five years it's hard to be certain. Edward Senior doesn't appear in the 1851 census which would have given an accurate age and place of birth. He was probably dead and indeed, in the burial register for Cramlington parish in 1849 I found the burials of Edward and Elizabeth Murton on the 18th and 26th of September, both of Shankhouse Pit and both aged 57.
However the press disagreed;
Deaths: At Shank House, on the 18th inst. aged 68, Mr Edward Morton (Newcastle Guardian & Tyne Mercury, Saturday 22nd of September 1849)
So we have Edward senior as 40 (40-45) in the 1841 census, 57 in the 1849 parish register and 68 in the 1849 newspaper death notice. It would be interesting to see what the death certificate says.
Andrew
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Hi! Thank you for the additional information on the children of the Morton/Dodds marriage. "My" Edward Morton and Isabella King were also prolific. I have found 11 children for that marriage. I think my great Aunt, Isabella King made up for her Sister who had no children that lived into adulthood. At any rate, I am willing to share with you what I have. I am not very computer literate and a senior citizen; I can, however, print out very good charts for your information and posterity. If you are interested, just send me your "snail mail" and I will put them in the mail to you right away. The time for our Postal System and the Royal mail to get snail mail delivered is about 6 days, but I would hope you would find it worth the wait. Sincerely, patrexjax "Pat" across the pond
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Hi Andygmandrew.
My GGrandmother was Mary Jane Morton b1861 Seghill. She was the daughter of Edward Morton b1831 Seghill - d1889 and Elizabeth Waugh b1835 - d1912. I think my Edward Morton may have actually been the Edward Murton listed in 1841 census at Brunton Row, East Brunton with his parents William Murton b1809 and his wife Frances (Slater) b 1809.
Do you have any information that could confirm the above.
Many thanks for your help
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Here are the baptismal entries I have for William and Frances:
Parish Entry in Register
EARSDON John son of William and Frances Murton [Slater] of Seghill, Pitman, baptised 23 November 1828,
N/CSTLE ALL STS Edward son of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 3 September 1831
N/CSTLE ALL STS William son of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 8 December, 1832
N/CSTLE ALL STS Ann daughter of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 20th of September, 1834
GOSFORTH George son of William and Frances Murton of Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 29 April 1838
GOSFORTH Robert son of William and Frances Morton of Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 10 February 1839
GOSFORTH Thomas Morton son of William and Frances Morton of Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 14 November 1841
N/CSTLE ALL STS Samuel son of William and Frances Morton, Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 19th of August 1843
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[/color]William Murton Male 30 Coal miner Born in Northumberland
Frances Murton Female 30 [coal miner’s wife] Not born in Northumberland
John Murton Male 10 - Born in Northumberland
Edward Murton Male 9 - Born in Northumberland
William Murton Male 8 - Born in Northumberland
Robert Murton Male 3 - Born in Northumberland
Ann Murton Female 6 - Born in Northumberland
George Murton Male 5 - Born in Northumberland
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[/color]William [/font]Morton Head Married Male 42 Coal Miner Byker, Northumberland
Frances Morton Wife Married Female 41 Ryton, Durham
Edward Morton Son Unmarried Male 20 Coal Miner Seghill, Northumberland
William Morton Son Unmarried Male 18 Coal Miner Seghill, Northumberlan
George Morton Son Unmarried Male 14 Coal Miner Gosforth, Northumberland
Robert Morton Son Unmarried Male 12 Coal Miner Gosforth, Northumberland
Thomas Morton Son Unmarried Male 10 Scholar at Home Gosforth, Northumberland
Samuel Morton Son Unmarried Male 8 Scholar at Home Gosforth, Northumberland
Ann Morton Daughter Unmarried Female 16 Seghill, Northumberland
Mary Morton Daughter Unmarried Female 2 Whickham, Durham[/color]
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In the1861 census, Edward is living with Elizabeth at 103 White Cake Row, Seghill, aged 30 and his place of birth is given as Seghill.
This all looks pretty conclusive, however, could there be another Edward who fits the bill? Here is a list of all the Edwards baptised around the same time:
BERWICK UPON TWEED RC Edward Murton, born 24 January 1819 and Bap. 2 February 1819, Son of John Murton and Isabel Murton (née Brown)
of Belford. Sponsors: Andrew Murton and Mary Graham
ELLINGHAM RC Edward Murton, born 24 January 1819, Baptised 2 February 1819, son of John Murton of Fenwick Steads by his wife
Isabel Brown. Sponsors: William Jamison, Ann Cassels
TYNEMOUTH Edward son of Michael and Elizabeth Murton, Tyne Street, Roper, baptised 7th of August 1822
DODDINGTON Edward son of Edward Morton & Elizabeth Rutherford, Horton, Parish of Chatton, Farmer & Single Woman, baptised
26 January 1828
NEWCASTLE ALL SAINTS Edward son of Ralph and Ann Murton, St. Peter`s, Glassmaker, baptised 17 August, 1829
NEWCASTLE ALL SAINTS Edward son of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 3 September 1831
NEWCASTLE ST ANDREW Edward Murton Bell son of Margaret Bell of this Parish, Spinster, baptised 23rd of October 1831 [father was Edward
Murton]
NEWCASTLE ALL SAINTS Edward son of John and Ann Morton, Pilgrim Street, Tailor, baptised 16 February, 1837
GOSFORTH Edward son of Charles and Hannah Morton, Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 3rd of April 1842
As you can see, there is no other candidate, so I think it's same to assume that William and Frances are Edward's parents.
If you want any further help to trace further back, please let me know.
Kind regards,
Andrew Morton
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Hi Andrew
Many thanks for your rapid and helpful response. It is encouraging to have someone else with experience to confirm my conclusion. It was the change from Morton to Murton that put doubt into my mind.
I have marriage record of William Murton and Frances Slater at Earsdon 1 Dec 1827 from Bishops Transcripts. I have nothing for birth of William other than his age of 42 in 1851 census giving birth about 1809 at Byker.
I can see possible deaths for William 1875 and 1881 both Newcastle and Frances 1864 Tynemouth. But this would mean they should both be in 1861 census and William in 1871 census but I can't find them anywhere so I have no idea where they were.
As I said I know nothing definite about birth of William and I know nothing about his parents so any information you may have would be useful.
Many thanks
Peter Crowther
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Hi Peter,
Glad to be of help!
I have the record of William's baptism:
William 2nd son of George Murton, cutler, of Sheffield, by his wife Mary Rutter, N. of the P. of Tynemouth, born 22nd October 1808, baptised 4th December 1808 at Earsdon
Also:
George 1st son of George Morton, Shefield, York, soldier, by his wife Mary daughter of Robert Rutter, pitman, of this Chapelry, baptised 16 August, 1807 at Newcastle All Saints
Robert son of George and Mary Morton of Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 27 November 1822 at Gosforth
Here are George and Mary in the 1841 Census:
Brunton Row, Gosforth, Castle Ward, Northumberland
George Murton Male 55 Coal miner Not born in Northumberland
Mary Murton Female 50 - - Northumberland
Robert Murton Male 15 - - Northumberland
Robert appears in the 1851 census at Kyo Laws, Stanley, County Durham. I can't trace George or Mary in 1851
For what it's worth:
News: At the Moot Hall, on Saturday the 17th instant, George Murton, of Brunton Row, pitman, was convicted of snaring hares, at the parish of Gosforth, and was ordered to be confined 6 weeks to hard labour, in the house of correction, at Morpeth. (Newcastle Courant, 31st of October 1829)
Advertisement: I GEORGE MORTON, late of Low Epsley, and now of Earsdon Moor, in the County of Northumberland, DO HEREBY GIVE NOTICE, that I will not be answerable for any debt or debts my wife Mary Morton may contract after this notice. Dated the 17th day of May, 1838. GEORGE MORTON. (Northern Liberator, 19th of May 1838)
I hope this is of use to you and do feel free to come back with any further queries you may have.
Kind regards
Andrew Morton
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Many thanks for that Andrew, you obviously have a lot of information on Morton genealogy. The information you have sent me has given me plenty to think about, particularly about Williams' father George Murton. I'm not used to Parish Records and maybe I'm reading them too literally but it looks to me that when son George was born 1807 in Newcastle, his father George was a Soldier of Sheffield! Then when William was born 1808 in Byker(?), his father George was a Cutler of Sheffield. Does it just mean George was 'from' Sheffield? If William was born in Byker why was he baptised at Earsdon rather than in Newcastle like his brother young George?
Very interesting about George Morton conviction for snaring hares; I have seen a record of a William Morton born abt 1811 jailed for a week for larceny at Northumberland County Court 1838.
This leads me to the question, have I got the right William Morton? Do you know from your records how many William Morton's were born around 1808 in that part of Northumberland?
Are you linked to my Morton line somewhere? Do you live in the North East? I lived with my parents at my Grandparents near Earsdon until 1953 when we moved to Cheshire.
Many thanks for your help
regards
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Something you have to beware of is that there is an area of Newcastle called Shieldfield which is often corrupted to Shefield. However, George senior is shown in the 1841 census as having been born outside Northumberland so I think it's safe to assume he was from Sheffield in Yorkshire. I suspect that he was a young man working as a cutler there (bear in mind that this was during the Napoleonic war) who was drawn in the ballot for the militia and went to serve with a militia regiment in Newcastle (militia regiments were not allowed to go on foreign service). Whilst there he met and married Mary Rutter in 1806 and they had their first child when he was still a soldier. When William was baptised George’s military service had ended and he was therefore described under his civilian trade.
It seems fairly certain that George was in the 3rd West Yorks Militia for I have uncovered a series of newspaper articles which attest to their presence in Newcastle in 1806.
Tyne Mercury 28 January 1806
‘DEATHS
Friday se'nnight, at Doncaster, Serjeant Birley, of the Third West York Militia; and on Sunday his remains were interred with military honours. The same evening William Ibbotson, late drum-major in the above regiment, and who followed Birley to the grave, dropped down in the street, and expired a few minutes afterwards.
Tyne Mercury 18 February 1806
‘MARRIAGES
Wednesday last, at York, Capt. Samson, son of the late Dr. Samson, of Beverley, and captain in the third West York militia, to Miss Anna Story, fourth daughter of George Story, Esq. of Bishopwearmouth, in the county of Durham.’
Newcastle Courant 3 May 1806
‘NEWCASTLE MAY 3.
The Third West York regiment of militia is on the march from Hull for Darlington and Durham’
Tyne Mercury 23 September 1806
‘LOCAL EVENTS
On Tuesday last the Provincial Grand Lodge for Northumberland of Free and Accepted Masons, under the Constitution of the Grand Lodge of England, the Prince of Wales Grand Master, met at Mr. Holburn's, Scotch-Arms, in this town, whence they, moved about twelve o’clock, in masonic procession, to Mr. Colbeck’s, the Chancellor’s-Head, where, after the duties of the lodge were performed, near 200 brethern sat down to a sumptuous dinner. Alter dinner an oration, adapted to the occasion, was delivered by the D. P. G. M. many loyal and appropriate toasts were given, and the afternoon was spent with that hilarity and harmony which characterizes the true mason.—A part of the band of the 3d West York Militia, and other musical brethren, attended, and added much to the conviviality of the day.’
Tyne Mercury 30 September 1806
‘MILITARY NEWS.
On Friday next, the 3d West York, militia march from this town to Sunderland ; the 2d Lancashire from Sunderland to Tynemouth ; and the Sussex from Tynemouth, to this town.
On Friday last as a private of the 2d Weft York militia was drawing his gun in an entry in Newgate street, in this town, the piece unfortunately went off, and shattered his hand in so dreadful a manner, that immediate amputation was found necessary. We understand that the officers of this regiment, in cases of the above nature uniformly display great liberality, by making such an addition to the pension as enables those who happen any accident to live comfortably during the remainder of their lives.’
You might find a muster roll for his unit either in the National Archive or in the West Yorks County Record Office. I think that shortly after that time George left the militia (or deserted – quite common) and at that point he was about to start a job as a coal miner so described himself as a cutler, his old occupation. William would have been baptised in Earsdon for that was Mary’s home parish and where the coal mine would have been.
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Regarding your query about William, here are all the births of Williams from about that time:
WHICKHAM William 4th son of Peter Murton, Fell. [probably Fellside], Soldier by his wife Isabel Redshaw, daughter of John Redshaw, native of this parish, born 16th of March 1808, baptised 3rd of August 1808 [there is some doubt as to whether Isabel is the same person as Peter Morton’s wife Hannah or her sister by an untraced marriage]
EARSDON William Murton, b. 22nd October 1808, bap. 4th December 1808, 2nd s. of George Murton, cutler, of Sheffield, by his wife Mary Rutter, N. of the P. of Tynemouth
TYNEMOUTH William Murton, 6th son of John Murton of Tynemouth, Blockmaker, native of this parish by his wife Jane Whitley, native of St. Johns, Durham, born 25th of January 1809, baptised 17th of February 1809 [buried at Mitford 1 July 1827]
ELLINGHAM ROMAN CATHOLIC CHAPEL William Murton, born and baptised 21 May 1809, son of John Murton by his wife Isabel Brown. Sponsors: John Brown, Eleanor Brown [Buried at Lowick 24 November 1822]
THOCKRINGTON William son of Lancelot Murton by his wife Catherine Charlton, born 30th of April 1809, baptised 28th of May 1809
The most likely candidate for George of Sheffield's baptism is:
First name(s) GEORGE
Last name MORTON
Birth year 1786
Baptism year 1786
Baptism day 12
Baptism month March
Mother's first name(s) -
Father's first name(s) Benjamin
Father's occupation -
Address Warren House
Place MIRFIELD
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Description St Mary
Record set Huddersfield Baptisms
This is the only Yorkshire baptism for a George Morton which comes anywhere near fitting his likely date of birth as given in the 1841 census which indicates a range of years from 1781 to 1786. I can't guarantee this is the right one but on balance it probably is (assuming he was actually born in Yorkshire). The only thing which makes me uneasy about it is that he didn't name any of his children Benjamin. Always keep an open mind!
I don't think we have a connection, my Mortons are originally from North Durham/Berwick upon Tweed area and migrated to South Shields via Rothbury and Alnwick. I live in Musselburgh in Scotland where we washed up in 1890 in Fife via Rotherham.
Kind regards
Andrew
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Hi Andrew
Many thanks for all the information. Apologies for delay in acknowledgement, we had to drop everything to go to our daughters in Stafford as she has health problems.
Am sifting through the information and it all seems to fit convincingly. I need to spend more time making sure I understand it all before I come back to you. Once again, many thanks for your time and detailed information.
regards
Peter
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I am doing a one name study of Mortons/Murtons in Northumberland and the southern bank of the Tyne from South Shields to Ryton.
I have more than 3,800 parish register entries going up to 1841 and in addition I have wills, admons, Marriage Bonds, Legal cases, Militia lists, Hearth tax, newspaper entries, etc. and all the entries in the 1841 and 1851 censuses including strays.
I'm happy to look anything up for you if you have a query.
Andrew Morton
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Hi Andrew,
I wonder if you have time to look and see if there is a marriage in Belford after 1773 between an
Elizabeth Morton and an Edward Murdy.
Sometime ago you found what I think is her birth --- dau of William Morton and a Jane Sanderson of Berwick upon Tweed. William of Belford ----Elizabeth born around 1758/9 or even recorded as Eliza.
Thanking you,
Big Ooms
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Hi there,
I've done a search through my records and have pulled out all the Elizabeth marriages around that period:
ALNWICK 17 December 1769, Elizabeth Morton to William Henderson, both of this parish. Wit. John Shell, John Morton
GATESHEAD Elizabeth Morton and Thos. Massey, married 14th of April 1776
TYNEMOUTH Elizabeth Morton of this parish and Robert Chater of this parish, by Licence, married 25th of November 1780. Wit. William Linskill, John Chater [Durham Marriage Bonds Robert Chater, Tynemouth, 26, Labourer and Elz. Morton, Tynemouth, 32; bondsman John Reid, Tynemouth, parish clerk]
HORTON BY BLYTH Elizabeth Murton and Martin Greaner, by Banns, married 19 January 1782
CHATTON 29 April 1784, Elizabeth Murton of Chatton Bridge End in this P. and Thomas Thompson of Reaveley Greens in the P. of Ingeram, by Banns. Wit. John Morton, William Brown
ALNWICK 2 February 1789, Elizabeth Morton and George Stamp, both of this parish by banns. Wit. Thos. Dunn, Thos. Patterson
NEWCASTLE ST JOHN Elizabeth Murton and Edward Pattison, both of this chapelry, married 4 April, 1798
SOUTH SHIELDS, ST. HILDA Elizabeth Morton and Robert Richardson, married 24th of November 1800
SOUTH SHIELDS, ST. HILDA Elizabeth Murton and Joseph Hall, married 4 September, 1803
TYNEMOUTH Elizabeth Morton and Joseph Hall, by Banns, married 14th of September 1803
EARSDON 2 September 1806, Elizabeth Morton and George Nicholson, Both of this P. [She age 21, widow + he age 21, widower. Bondsman: Thos. Clennell, Morpeth, Wit. Robert Pearson, George Pickering - Durham Marriage Bonds, 14/8/1806]
NEWCASTLE ALL SAINTS Elizabeth Morton, of this parish and James Fisher, of this parish, by Banns, married 16 August, 1819. Wit. Peter Higham, Jonan. Scott, John Thompson
LONG HORSLEY Elizabeth Morton of this parish, Spinster and George Hedley of Bower Shield, parish of Elsdon, Bachelor, by Lic. with consent of parents. Wit. John Hedley, Henry Morton
NEWCASTLE ST JOHN Elizabeth Morton of this parish and John Donnelly of this parish, by Banns, married 8 August 1823. Wit. Thomas Donnelly, Henry Cockburn
Sadly, none of them are to a Murdy.
There is a possibility of a marriage in Scotland as he appears to have been a Presbyterian but I've done a search at Scotland's People and drawn a blank. I take it you've already done a search of Border Marriages.
Keep the faith!
Andrew
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Thank you Andrew for all that work.
They are sent to try us. yes I have looked at all the cross Border Marriages without any luck.
Just have to accept it happened at one point, or perhaps it never did!
Kindest Regards,
BigOoms.
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Just a quick follow up. I was at Berwick Record Office the other day and had a chat with the archivist about Presbyterian marriages. She told me that in many cases the couple would cross the border into Scotland with their minister, conduct the ceremony and then return and in many cases no records exist. The only proof is subsequent baptismal entries referring to 'so and so and his wife'.
Many marriages would also be by declaration in front of witnesses and again there would be no record. As an aside, my grandparents' marriage certificate shows that they were married by declaration and no church record exists.
Kind regards
Andrew
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Hello I am very new to this so please forgive me if I'm looking in the wrong place. I am trying to trace my grandads family tree as he knows little about his childhood. He was born on 29th july 1934 and named Peter Morton. His mother was Doris Morton, his grandmother was Margaret jane Morton and I think his grandfather was James Morton. After he was born we think he was placed in a children's home in Newcastle for the first couple of years he was then fostered to a few different family's in Newcastle and Oxfordshire his mother came to his foster home in Oxfordshire when he was around 9 and took him to live with her she was a house keeper for a Montague william blanchford who later adopted my grandad and told him to call him father. His mother never spoke to him about his early childhood but we have found photos she must have been sent while he was in the children's home. His mother Doris Morton was born in 1912 and his father is not registered.
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Hi Vicky,
I thought I'd replied to your message but can't find it. Anyway, it would be helpful if you could give me details from Doris's and Peter's birth certificates. I found him in 1939 living in Berkshire under the name of Blanchford.
If I have James and Margaret Jane correctly, I think Peter's great Grandfather was John Morton of Brandling Place, Newcastle about whom I have a bit of detail.
Andrew
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My grandads birth certificate says registration district newcastle upon Tyne in the sub-district of all saints in the county borough newcastle upon Tyne. It says he was born 20th July 1934. His mum was Doris Morton in section 4 and 6 about the father has a line through. Section 7 says Margaret Jane Morton grandmother present at birth 16 marianople street newcastle. In section 8 when registered it says 1st September 1934 the registrar was v.g Godfrey. At the edge of the birth certificate it says adopted G.Craighill superintendent registrar. At the bottom it is stamped and dated 11th September 1959. All is written in the same hand and pen so thinking this is not his very first birth certificate.
Doris Morton's birth certificate: 1921 birth sub district of Benwell in the county of newcastle upon Tyne. Born on the 13th October 1912. Father James Morton mother Margaret Jane Hudson Late Hudson Maiden name Gibson. Her father was a coal miner (stoneman) she was born in 198 Gill street newcastle. Registered 22nd November 1912, registrar James Heylon.
I have found a Margaret jane Gibson married to a John Thomas Hudson in 1904 and they are registered living in Benwell in 1911. Doris was born in 1912 and her mother was then a Morton so not too sure? Thank you so much for your help :)
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*Sorry on Doris Morton's birth certificate it says mother: Margaret Jane Morton Late Hudson family name Gibson*
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Do you have James and Margaret Jane's marriage certificate? They were married in 1912 in Newcastle.
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Hello no I don't have the marriage certificate but found a record of the marriage online. Thinking of ordering one though.
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The same enquiry posted here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=778678.msg6326530#msg6326530
Perhaps better to have all the answers on that thread? It's not a good idea to have two running simultaneously :)
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Hello I was wondering if you would be able to help me, on another post you had a stab at a family tree for James Morton, you thought that James Morton's father was also a James Morton. I have just received the marriage certificate of James Morton and Margaret Jane Hudson nee gibson and it states that James Morton's father was a William Morton who was a farmer. Just wondered if you have any william Morton's with occupation farmer in your research? James Morton dob would have been 1887. Thank you
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Hi,
Can you tell me precisely what is entered on the birth certificate (everything).
Andrew
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It would be better if you could send me a scan.
Andrew
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I do not have a birth certificate for James Morton as I don't know which one to order think their are quite a few James Morton's and the index only shows father's last name not first so don't know which James Morton came from a farmer william morton. I do have Doris Morton's birth certificate (James's daughter) and I have the marriage certificate between James and Margaret. I would happily send you scans of those.
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Sorry, I meant the marriage certificate.
Doh!
Andrew
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Every time I try to attach it is says file too big? Any ideas?
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I’ve sent you my email address in a personal message. You should be able to send it there.
Andrew
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I have just received the marriage certificate of James Morton and Margaret Jane Hudson nee gibson and it states that James Morton's father was a William Morton who was a farmer.
James Morton dob would have been 1887
Hopefully andygmandrew will be able to help you.
I was going to ask you the following
What was James’ address and occupation on m/cert. - might help you find him on 1911 census which would hopefully give you his pob and then you could look for him on 1901/1891 with his
father William
Were any of the witnesses related to James?
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This isn‘t going to be easy. To start with, he’s not visible in the 1911 census and he may not have been honest about his father’s occupation. To make it more complicated, when he died in 1925 his date of birth is given as 1890. There is a candidate but many of the details aren’t right. Plus I suspect he wasn’t born in Newcastle.
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Hi
I wondered if you could please help me with Andrew Morton. I have spent 20 years on this with no success.
Thomasina Morton (Born Belford 1883) Father Thomas Morton Chillingham mother Elisabeth Morton Belford father Robert Morton Belford.
Robert Morton father Andrew Morton is deceased by 1841, but I have his father as Andrew Dick Morton buried Lucker. Father John Morton and Martha Downey.
Thomas' father is Andrew Morton 1841 born Northumberland. 1851 census states born Ellingham. Also living in the house is a granddaughter Annie born Ellingham, but she was born in Eglingham and think this is a transcription error. I cannot find him on 1861 census. Died 1866 and is buried in Chillingham. His first wife is Dorothy child Isabella (possible mother's name) living Heckley Fence, Alnwick. Next wife Ann Stewart son George (possible father's name). They then move to Chillingham Newtown.
Thank you for your very kind offer of help. Having both sets of great-grandparents as Mortons of Belford and Chillingham have had me going around in circles for years.
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I wondered if you could please help me with Andrew Morton. I have spent 20 years on this with no success.
Thomas' father is Andrew Morton 1841 born Northumberland.
1851 census states born Ellingham living in the house is a granddaughter Annie born Ellingham, but she was born in Eglingham and think this is a transcription error.
I cannot find him on 1861 census.
Died 1866 and is buried in Chillingham.
first wife is Dorothy child Isabella (possible mother's name) living Heckley Fence, Alnwick.
Next wife Ann Stewart son George (possible father's name). They then move to Chillingham Newtown.
For others looking is this the 1851 census you are referring too?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGX4-YVY
Andrew Morton born c1792 Ellingham , wife is Ann, son Thomas born c1828 Chillingham plus siblings
Thos. Morton born 5 Jan 1827
Baptism 19 Jan 1827 West Chapel Presbyterian-NC, Wooler, Northumberland
Father: Andrew Morton Mother: Ann
Andrew Morton born c1792 does seem pretty elusive on the 1861 census ???
1866 burial Andrew Morton born c1792 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/61832390
1841 census surname MORTON transcribed as MORSTON on Anc*y
Andrew 50 Ag lab
Ann 50
George 25 Ag lab
Robert 20 Shoemaker j
James 20 Ag lab
Elizabeth 15
Thomas 10
Jane 10
Stephen 10
William 9
John 5
Wondering if this might be the baptism of
Ann Stewart 1792 West Chapel, Wooler parents Robert & Elizabeth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1LS-83J
1857 burial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/61832780
Isabella Morton 23 Aug 1812 Pottergate Street Scotch Presbyterian OR Protestanalnwicknters Alnwick,Northumberland
parents Andrew, Dorathy
and possibly some of Andrew & Ann's children
George Morton 5 Nov 1815 Pottergate Street Scotch Presbyterian OR Protestanalnwicknters,Alnwick,Northumberland
Ralph Morton 21 Oct 1819 West Chapel, Wooler, Northumberland
Elizabeth Morton 30 Apr 1823 West Chapel, Wooler, Northumberland
Jane Morton 21 Mar 1829 West Chapel, Wooler, Northumberland
John Morton 19 Apr 1836 West Chapel Presbyterian-NC,Wooler,Northumberland
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Hi feefee (Fiona?)
I was a little confused by your post, however I think I get the gist.
'Deaths: At NEWCASTLE, in Argyle Terrace, on the 17th inst., aged 77, Mr Andrew Morton, formerly of Chillingham Newtown.' (Newcastle Courant, 23rd of March 1866)
It seems beyond reasonable doubt that this is your Andrew Morton (I have a copy of the inquest which I shall send you).
Like you I can't find him in the 1861 census, but his wife Ann died in 1857, presumably at Chillingham and it would appear that he was then looked after by his daughter Elizabeth as when he died at Argyle Terrace, she, her daughter Ann and his grandson Andrew were all living at that address whilst helping his son Stephen to run the shop referred to in the article.
Robert's baptism:
Robert son of Andrew Morton by his wife Ann, parish of Chillingham, born at New Town 13th of August 1817, baptised 15th of August 1817 - Wooler West Presbyterian.
And therein is your problem, they were Presbyterians. It is often hard to trace Presbyterian marriages in Northumberland as it was common for the parties to hop across the border into Scotland where a Presbyterian marriage was legal rather than marry in the Church of England (as you probably know, in England only Church of England marriages were legal between 1754 and 1837). Unfortunately records of these marriages rarely survive, but as Presbyterian Baptisms usually recorded the mother's maiden name it's often possible to work out who the parties were.
If we're to believe the evidence of the census ands his inquest, Andrew was born around 1789. However there are no baptisms of an Andrew Morton around that time and the two which come closest are:
Andrew Morton, baptised 4th December 1784, son of Selby & Jane Morton of Tweedmouth - Tweedmouth
Andrew Dick son of John Morton of Lucker by his wife Martha, baptised 26 February 1785 [buried at Lowick 7 March 1825 age 40] - Lucker
It can't be the first as he was apprenticed to a Patternmaker in London, and the second appears to have died in 1825. It's also noteworthy that your Andrew is nowhere described as Andrew Dick Morton whereas Andrew Dick Morton's brother, Durham Dick Morton is almost always referred to as Durham Dick Morton.
It seems to me that your Andrew may have been baptised a Presbyterian and the record of his baptism is in a lost register. I've never found any trace of his marriage to Dorothy either. it's interesting that the registers of Wooler West Chapel Presbyterian include the baptism of Ann Stewart but not that of Andrew (despite them being extant from 1740).
An outside possibility is that he was born a Catholic (there was a tribe of Catholic Mortons in the Lowick/Belford area - including my own ancestors) and became a Presbyterian on his marriage. The two main Catholic congregations for the area are Haggerston Castle and Ellingham. Ellingham registers go back to 1779 but pre 1790 registers are missing for Haggerston and it may be significant that one of the first entries is:
Robert son of Andrew and Margaret Murton, Sponsors Tom Murray, Anne Murray, baptised 7th of April 1789 - Haggerston Castle Roman Catholic Chapel
There is an outside possibility that Andrew may be a slightly older brother of Robert.
What do you think?
Happy to chat further.
Kind regards
Andrew Morton
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'THE DEATH FROM FURIOUS DRIVING.
Yesterday evening, the coroner (Mr J. T. Hoyle), held an inquest at the house of Mr N. W. Tinkler, the Royal Adelaide Hotel, New Bridge Street, Newcastle, on the body of Andrew Morton, 77 years of age, who had come by his death in consequence of injuries sustained by him, by being run over by a horse and cart driven by a young man named Mark Burton, on the forenoon of the 27th ult. Burton, it will be remembered, was brought up the Manors Police Court, on Tuesday last, at the instance of W. Blanshard, Esq., the County Court judge, for furiously driving, in connection with this same case, and fined 10s. and costs. Since that time Mr Morton gradually grew worse and expired on Saturday last. The facts of the case will be gathered from the following evidence:
Stephen Dixon Morton, flour dealer, of 100, Newgate Street, was the first witness called, and said: The deceased body now shown to the jury is that of my father. He was 77 years of age, and lived in Argyle Terrace. On February 27, about six minutes to ten o'clock in the forenoon, he came into my shop and enquired what time at once, and on being told he went out again immediately, and in about three minutes afterwards Mr Welsh, the beadle of St Andrew's, came into the shop and told me that my father had been run over. I went out and met some men in the act of carrying him into my shop. The young man Burton, I believe, was one of them. I at once sent for Dr. Carr, of Eldon Square, who attended the deceased immediately. Mr Blanshard, the County Court judge, followed them into my shop. About an hour after the occurrence the deceased was taken to his daughter's house in Argyle Terrace, where the body now lies. The deceased was quite sober when he came into my shop. He crossed over S Kings head towards the Kings Head, at the corner Blacket Street to go up on the other side Percy Street to meet the Dinnington carrier. I understood he had been knocked down by a horse and cart driven by Burton.
The coroner (at this stage of the proceedings) asked the young man Burton, who was present, if he wished to ask any questions of the witness. He had heard from the evidence of Mr Morton that he was concerned in the occurrence which led to the death of the deceased. He was to understand that he was not on his trial there; he might ask any question, or, if he was willing to be sworn on oath, he might make any statement, but if he did it would be taken down in evidence and used against him as necessary. Did not occur to him that there was any question that ought to be asked in his behalf, or he would have asked it. That was an enquiry only; there was no one accused. Was there any question he wished to ask.
Burton replied in the negative.
Wm. Blanshard, Esq., of Jesmond Dene Hall, Newcastle upon Tyne, County Court Judge of Newcastle and Northumberland, was next sworn and said: on February 27, about a few minutes before 10 o'clock, I was proceeding, accompanied by my son, down Percy Street, on my way to hold my County Court in Westgate Street. I was on the right hand side of the street coming down, and had got as far as Mrs. Weddell's register office, when my attention was drawn to a light cart rapidly driven out of Gallowgate and across Percy Street towards Blackett Street. The driver, in my opinion, was proceeding at a moat rapid and I should say a most reckless rate, so much so that he nearly ran into a light cart that was coming up Newgate Street into Percy Street, and he only escaped this by the other horse throwing up his head, so that Burton's cart passed clear. His attention was entirely engrossed by having nearly run into this vehicle, and he held up his hand to the driver of the other cart, but he proceeded recklessly onward at the same rate towards Blackett Street. My attention for a moment was directed to the other horse to see whether it was hurt or not, and the next thing I saw was the old man lying on his back on the crossing, with his face bloody, as if he had been thrown down by the cart. My impression was, that the deceased had been knocked down by the shaft of the cart, and that his face had been struck by the wheel afterwards. I did not see him knocked down; my son saw more than I did. The driver, who turned out to be the young man Burton, pulled up ass soon at he could. He did not get very far—not above twenty yards from the crossing perhaps. The cart was not laden, and he was the only person in it. I observed that particularly, because I went up to the cart to see the name upon it. Some persons went and lifted up the deceased, and were carrying him into his son’s shop. Barton then followed, no doubt showing a deal of concern, and I and my son followed after him. When I got into the shop of Mr. Morton, jnr., I saw that they were all very anxious and excited about the occurrence. Before I expected the deceased would die in consequence of the injuries he had received, I made complaint to the authorities about the furious driving. I told Burton at the time that I thought he had been driving at a most unjustifiable rate, and he denied it.
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(Continued)
'By a Juror: the cart that was likely to come into collision with Burton's was coming up about the centre of Newgate Street and Percy Street. The other cart just got past him, and he held up his hand to the driver. My notion was that it was a kind of jeering thing that he did. It took his attention of his own horse for a moment, but he never attempted to stop it. Had he been attending to his own horse exclusively, and not looking round, you might have avoided deceased, either by pulling up or going on one side of him. I am quite satisfied that he was going at a most reckless pace, having regard to the safety of the public. I think I was within the mark when I previously stated that he was going 6 miles an hour; my belief is that he was going at the rate of about 7. I may just state that after the mischief was done I don't think any young man could have behaved better than Burton did. I don't think the other cart all contributed to the occurrence.
To the coroner: I did not notice the deceased until I saw him lying on his back on the crossing.
Wm. Green, jun., of 6, St Mary's Terrace, Newcastle, mining engineer, deposed: I saw the deceased not down by the horse and cart. On February 27 last a few minutes before ten o'clock. I was coming down Percy Street, a few yards behind Mr Blanchard. I saw the horse and cart driven very fast data Gallowgate into Blacket Street, and in doing so it just missed the head of a horse that was in the cart coming up Newgate Street. The man driving the cart turned round visit to see whether he had done any damage or not; the man in the cart coming up Newgate Street seemed to be the next. Burton's attention was drawn for the moment from his own horse. The next I saw was a man not down by the cart, but I cannot tell whether by the shaft on the wheel, as I was on the opposite side from the deceased. I saw some blood on the face of the deceased. I well acquainted with horses and driving, and my impression was that the horse was being driven at a rate of about 8 miles an hour.
By a Juror: I cannot say whether the deceased made any effort to get out of the way. I think is the deceased had stood still it would have been worse for him; had he made another step forward, he would have avoided the cart.
Mr William Carr, surgeon, of Eldon Square, said: I was called in on February 27, about ten o'clock in the morning, to see the deceased in the kitchen behind his son's shop in Newgate Street. There was a superficial wound on the back of his head, and a severe wound on the upper lip. He was very much stunned, and unconscious at the time. The same blow that had inflicted the wound on his upper lip and also knocked out 2 or 3 of his teeth. I think the wound on the back of his head was caused by his falling; that on the lip most likely by some opposing force, probably the shaft of the cart; it could not have been caused by the wheel. Those were all the external injuries I observed. I continued to attend him till his death, which took place on Saturday, the 17th inst., at his daughter's house in Argyle Terrace. His death was occasioned by exhaustion, consequent upon those injuries. His consciousness returned and his wounds healed. I had frequent conversation with him while under my treatment, but he never made any remarks as to the occurrence. During the last 2 or 3 days of his life he was incoherent in his intellect.
This being the whole of the evidence, the coroner proceeded to sum up to the jury. In reading over the evidence, he remarked at the outset that it did not matter how long a time had intervened from the injuries being received until the death of the deceased, so long as it was proved that those injuries were the primary cause of his death. It seemed a very material circumstance that instead of Burton looking at his horse while he was going at a rapid rate described by the witnesses, he looked behind him at the other cart, and that was probably the reason why this man got knocked. Although there had been a great deal said about reckless driving, they (the jury) must not make this man sacrificed to the general opinion unless they were satisfied that there had been any negligence on his part; and he was bound to tell them that there had been negligence according to what Mr Blanchard and Mr Green said. Whatever amount of carelessness than might have been however, Burton appear to show a great deal of concern afterwards; but still that would not bring the man to life again. The question for them, then, to consider was whether they thought from the evidence that Burton had been guilty of any negligence or not. If they thought he had, then it would be their bounden duty to find a verdict of manslaughter against him.
The jury having consulted for about 10 minutes, the Foreman said they were unanimously of opinion that the occurrence had been accidental.'
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Sorry, that should have been Pattenmaker, not Pattern maker!
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Hello All, I am connected to the Morton/Murton ancestors through William Morton Marriage on the 16/1/1743 to a Jane Dunn he was from the Parish of Woodhorn and Jane Parish of Beadnell, Jane's Burial was the 19/10/1801 aged 88 William died earlier. They are the parents of Phillis Morton/Murton who later married William Middlemiss. :-[ anyone connect to this family. :-[
Regards,
Janet :-\
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Hello again andygmandrew still trying to complete this family Phyllis Murton 15/2/1747 parents William Murton and Jane Dunn I have reached a brick wall with Jane Dunn's father Edward Dunn, and Thomas Murton father of William Murton Snr, 14/12/1685 Bamburgh marriage to a Margaret Armstrong on the 5/6/1711. Would love help thank you. :-[
Regards,
Janet :-\ :-[
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Hi Andy, Thank you so much for the wonderful information. Thomas Morton father Andrew wife Ann Stewart was my ggf (chillingham) married Elisabeth Morton father Robert Morton, his father, also, Andrew Dick Morton, Belford Catholic origin. They can be traced to Lucker and Bamborough. I think you may be right in thinking nc baptism. I have looked at Selby Morton and this name is predominent in the family. Given the amount of children Andrew and Ann had, I discounted that line. I am going to have a look at the William Morton who is living nearby in Chillingham. Thoroughly enjoyed reading info. Once again thank you.
Fiona
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Hi Andy, I am researching my ancestor John Morton born 1829 in Seghill, who moved to Marley Hill sometime in the 1850s. I think I found him in the 1851 census in Seghill but as John Murton, married to Mary Murton with a 6 myth old son Edward Murton. This looks right given their names, so maybe it was a mistranscription from the original? Anyway, I have completely drawn a blank on finding him on the 1841 census so any help from anyone would be brilliant.
Cheers, Chris Morton.
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Hi Chris,
In 1841 John was living with his parents William and Frances at Brunton Row, East Brunton, Gosforth Northumberland. His baptism was as follows:
23 November 1828, John son of William and Frances Murton [Slater] of Seghill, Pitman, baptised at Earsdon
Happy to give you any more information you require.
Kind regards
Andrew
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Thanks Andrew, that seems to tie in with the fact that John's wife Mary was recorded in the 1851 census as having been born in Gosforth, so perhaps they met there and then John went back to Seghill to work, where his father William was also from.
I'd be keen to connect with anyone else's Morton/Murton trees. Mine is public on Geni.
Thanks so much for your help and of course any further info would be brilliant!
Chris Morton
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Thanks Andrew, that seems to tie in with the fact that John's wife Mary was recorded in the 1851 census as having been born in Gosforth, so perhaps they met there and then John went back to Seghill to work, where his father William was also from.
You may already have this info......
From the GRO index the children of John Morton & Mary show mmn MORTON
probable marriage entry
Dec 1849 Tynemouth 25 491
Dick John
King Clement
Morton John
Morton Mary
Richardson Eliza
Trewick Jane
Marriage certificate would confirm father's names
Mary Morton Baptism 5 Apr 1829 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland
Father: Edward Morton Mother: Elizabeth
Edward (coal miner) & Elizabeth Morton & family living next door to
William (coal miner) & Frances Morton & family
1841c HO107; Piece: 821; Folio: 8; Page: 14 address Brunton Row, Gosforth, Northumberland
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Here is the full entry with comments:
1841 Census
Brunton Row, East Brunton, Gosforth, Northumberland
William Murton Male 30 Coal miner Born in Northumberland [William 2nd s. of George Murton, cutler, of Sheffield, by his wife Mary Rutter, N. of the P. of Tynemouth, born 22nd October 1808, baptised 4th December 1808 at Earsdon]
Frances Murton Female 30 [coal miner’s wife] Not born in Northumberland [1 December 1827, William Murton of Earsdon and Frances Slater of Earsdon, married, by Banns at Earsdon]
John Murton Male 10 - Born in Northumberland [23 November 1828, John son of William and Frances Murton [Slater] of Seghill, Pitman, baptised at Earsdon]
Edward Murton Male 9 - Born in Northumberland [Edward son of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 3 September 1831 at Newcastle All Saints]
William Murton Male 8 - Born in Northumberland [William son of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 8 December, 1832 at Newcastle All Saints]
Robert Murton Male 3 - Born in Northumberland [Robert son of William and Frances Morton of Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 10 February 1839 at Gosforth]
Ann Murton Female 6 - Born in Northumberland [Ann daughter of William and Frances Morton, Seghill, Pitman, baptised 20th of September, 1834 at Newcastle All Saints]
George Murton Male 5 - Born in Northumberland [George son of William and Frances Murton of Brunton Row, Pitman, baptised 29 April 1838 at Gosforth]
William's parents are living nearby:
Brunton Row, Gosforth, Castle Ward, Northumberland
George Murton Male 55 Coal miner Not born in Northumberland [born in Sheffield]
Mary Murton Female 50 - Born in Northumberland [George Morton x his mark and Mary Rutter x her mark, both of this chapelry, by Banns, married 8th of September 1806 at Newcastle All Saints. Wit. Ann Cowan, Jona. Scott]
The baptism of George and Mary's first son describes George as a soldier [I think he was actually in the militia]:
George 1st son of George Morton, Shefield, York, soldier, by his wife Mary daughter of Robert Rutter, pitman, of this Chapelry, baptised 16 August, 1807 - Newcastle All Saints
George must have died because we find this:
Mary Morton, full age, Widow,-, Benwell, Father: Robert Rutter (deceased), Collier and John Gair, full age, Widower, Labourer, Benwell, Father: Edward Gair (deceased), Labourer, by Banns [he signs, she x], married 9th of November 1842. Wit. Wm. Findley, Jn° Thompson
PS I don't have that John Morton/Mary Morton marriage. It can't have taken place in Tynemouth or Earsdon parishes as I have all the marriages there. It could be that there was no church ceremony. If you get a certificate I'd be grateful for the details.
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Thanks Andy, this is amazing. You have added two generations to my family tree (now into the 18th century!), changed my surname to Murton, and given me roots in Sheffield! Incredible.
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I did actually track down George’s baptism in/near Sheffield but I didn’t keep a note of it unfortunately. I dare say I could find it again. By the way, the surnames Murton/Morton are interchangeable. I’ve seen many people whose surnames change from Morton to Murton and back again several times over the years. I’ve even seen people referred to as Murton who then sign the register as Morton.
Cheers
Andrew
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Needless to say we'd be over the moon to have George's baptism info but please don't go to any lengths. Interesting on the name changing, I just assumed that literacy wasn't that great and so the census taker just interpreted what they told them as best they could. Maybe it was the Sheffield accent...
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Yes, the Morton/Murton thing is very prevalent in Northumberland owing to the way the Northumbrians prononounce the O 'owe' and U 'oe'.
Having checked my records again I found George's burial - 'George Murton, Brunton Row, 60 years, buried 8th of March 1842' - Gosforth. That means he was born between 9/3/1781 and 8/3/1782. there's only one Yorkshire baptism which fits:
'27th of July 1781, Geo. son of Major Morton, Mason baptised' - Sheffield
Major appears to have been a name, not a rank!
The marriage register of Sheffield Cathedral has the following marriage:
'Major Morton of this Parish, Batchelor and Mary Booth of this Parish, Spinster were married in this church by Licence this sixteenth day of July in the Year One Thousand Seven Hundred and Seventy [both sign] in the presence of John Darling and Samuel Booth' [the Licence is in the York records].
Major Morton was also the son of a Major Morton who married at Sheffield in 1743:
'6 February 1743 Major Morton of Ecclesfield prish. & Sarah Evans certified by Mr Butterfield'
The only uneasiness I have about this is that none of George's sons were called Major, which would be unusual in Northumberland where there were fairly set naming patterns.
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You may be interested in this item.
'News: At the Moot Hall, on Saturday the 17th instant, George Murton, of Brunton Row, pitman, was convicted of snaring hares, at the parish of Gosforth, and was ordered to be confined 6 weeks to hard labour, in the house of correction, at Morpeth.' (Newcastle Courant, 31st of October 1829)
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That all seems to fit, thanks Andrew! There is a discrepancy between George's age of 55 given in the 1841 census and his age at death of 60 in 1842 burial register, but I presume these things can't be relied on that much and it must be him. Never come across Major as a given name before, that's strange. Perhaps too strange for George's wife to let him use it for his own sons!
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The reason for the discrepancy is that the 1841 census rounded down the ages of adults to the nearest five years, so someone of 59 would be recorded as 55.
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Here's another fragment for you. George married Mary Rutter on 8th of September 1806 and we know that in 1807 he was described as a soldier. I have the following excerpts from the Newcastle Courant:
10 May 1806:
'The third West York (except the two rifle companies, which are gone to Whitburn) have arrived in this town.'
[on the 8th of September they marry]
17 September 1806:
'On Friday next, the 3d West York militia march from this town to Sunderland'
This is pretty good evidence that he was in the 3rd West York Militia and must have been a quick worker to have wooed and won his lady in such a short time!
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That's great research. Sounds like a time honoured story of soldiery. But they obviously settled down for quite a while. It's amazing to think how many Geordies might be descended from this Sheffield militiaman.
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Hello Andrew
I am looking to find the parents of a Mary MORTON born c 1754-1758, possibly in or near Whittingham. Witness at her marriage was Wm MORTON, could be her father/brother/uncle /cousin/passerby who had the same name :-)
I have the following records:
30 April 1783 Marriage Licence and Bond for
Robert MAVING , of the Parish of Tynemouth, Bachelor, Joiner of the age of 31 years and upwards
to marry
Mary MORTON, of the Parish of Whittingham, Spinster of the age of 25 years and upwards
Whittingham Parish Church, Parish Register, Marriages, 1783
Robert MAVING of Tynemouth Parish & Mary MORTON of this parish were married in this Church by Licence this 4th day of May in the year of Our Lord 1783 by me J Twentyman. This marriage was solemnized between us [Robert Maving signed, Mary Morton signed]
In the presence of George MORRISON [signed], Wm MORTON [signed]
After this the surname morphed into being MAVIN (no g)
They had 8 children, John (born 1783), Richard (born 1785), Elizabeth (born 1786), Margery (born 1788), Robert (born 1790), George (born 1792), William (born 1794) and Thomas (born 1798)
Mary died in 1802 at Glanton.
Burial record from Whittingham Parish says Mary MAVIN, Glanton, wife of Robert Mavin, farmer, aged 48 years, died 11th March 1802, buried 13th March 1802.
and that is it, other than she was my 4x Great Granny, that's all I know about her.
Any clues would be gratefully received, no rush, she's been on my list for a good while, she can sit there a while longer.
thanks
Boo
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Hi there,
This is a strange one!
Whittingham Monumental Inscriptions has:
'John Morton of Glanton 9-8-1774 age 55. Elizabeth his wife 9-5-1783 age 64. John their son 16-7-1764 age 6. Elizabeth their daur. 30-7-1764 age 4. Mary their daur, & w. of Robert Mavin of Glanton 16-4-1833 age 84'
So, the parish registers have:
John Murton of Glanton, Buried 12th of August 1774 - Whittingham
Elizabeth Morton of Glanton, Buried 12th of May 1783 - Whittingham
John, Son of John Murton of Glanton, Buried 5th of August 1764 - Whittingham
Elizabeth daughter of John Murton of Glanton, buried 19th of July 1764 - Whittingham
which all tally with the headstone, but the inscription for Mary doesn't accord with the Burial Register entry.
However, Whittingham Burial register has :
18 April 1833, Robert Mavin, Glanton, 81 years
which is correct as to date and almost correct as to age. I suspect that whoever carved the stone has got mixed up. What it does prove is the link between Robert and Mary and that she was the daughter of John and Elizabeth Murton of Glanton. I have the baptismal entries for the family:
William son of John Murton, baptised 17th of April 1756 - Whittingham
Elizabeth daughter of John Murton by his wife Elizabeth, baptised 16th of October 1758 - Whittingham
John son of John Murton, baptised 5th of January 1761 - Whittingham
George, Son of John Murton of Glanton, baptised 25th of November 1765 - Whittingham
John Morton married Mary Reveley at Chatton:
1 January 1754, John Morton and Mary Reveley, both of this parish - Chatton
This is the only John/Mary marriage which fits the timescale and as, according to Family Search, she was baptised at Alwinton, Northumberland on 20 Oct 1737 (this is the only baptism at that time of a Mary Reveley/Reavley) it fits her age at death. Her parents were Robert Cramond and Isabel Reavely, presumably an illegitimate birth.
Turning back to the marriage of Robert and Mary, Robert's age as given in the marriage licence tallies with his age at death, suggesting that the licence age was accurate. if we assume that this means that Mary's age must also be correct on the marriage licence, that gives a birth date between 1 May 1757 and 30 April 1758. She must have been born after the middle of February 1757 as her brother William was baptised on 17/4/1756 and before the end of 1757 as her sister Elizabeth was baptised on 16/10/1758. unfortunately there is no matching entry in Whittingham parish and no entry in other parishes which matches. Perhaps she was never baptised.
I have some further details:
Advertisement: To be SOLD to the best Bidder, At the house of Mr Joseph Turnbull, at the Angel Inn, in Alnwick, on Saturday the 14th day of July instant, between the hours of 3 and 5 in the afternoon, A Compact FREEHOLD ESTATE, in the township of Glanton, in the parish of Whittingham and County of Northumberland, at the clear yearly rent of 70l. the tenant’s Lease expires on the 12th day of May next. For further particulars, enquire of Mr Alder, of Adderstone. Part the money will be left in the purchaser’s hands, if required. Mr John Morton, the present tenant, will shew the premises. (Newcastle Courant, Saturday 7th of July 1770)
Advertisement: We, William Marshall, Simon Dodds, and George Chisholme, Gentlemen, the Commissioners, named and appointed in and by an Act of Parliament made in the 15th year of the reign of his present Majesty, for dividing and inclosing a Moor, called Alnham Moor or Alnham Common, as also the infield Grounds of the Township of Alnham, in the parish of Alnham, in the County of Northumberland, to hear by give Notice, that we have prepared a draught of our intended award of Division of the said Moor or Common and infield Grounds, and that meeting will be held at the house of widow Murton of Glanton [Elizabeth Morton, widow of John Morton of Glanton], in the parish of Whittingham, in the County aforesaid, on Thursday the 15th day of August next, for reading and settling the said draught, [etc.] Dated 24th of July 1776. (Newcastle Courant, Saturday 3rd of August 1776)
A LIST of the Names and Residences of every person between the Ages of Fifteen and Sixty Years (not engaged in any military capacity) dwelling with the township of Glanton: William Murton, Glanton, no carts or cart horses, 28th of February 1798 (Northumberland Archive, Return of Men and Carts 1797, Q/S/B/90)
To be continued
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Advertisement: Stolen, from Edington, near Morpeth, on Monday Night, August 30, a Bay FILLY, rising four Years old, near fifteen Hands high, with a bright Star on her Fore-head, a little white on her far hind foot; high-hoofed on the Fore Feet, bare legged, a short Mane, switch Tail, and goes very well. Whoever can give an Account of the said Filly, so as she may be had again to Wm Morton, of Edington, aforesaid, shall have Five Guineas Reward, and all reasonable Charges. (Newcastle Chronicle, Saturday 4th of September 1773)
Mary's father John was baptised at Mitford:
John son of William Morton, baptised 14 May, 1719 [buried at Whittingham 12th of August 1774] - Mitford
William's entries:
William son of William Morton of Edington, baptised 9 June, 1709 - Mitford
Henry son of William Morton of Edington, baptised 9 January, 1711 - Mitford
George son of William Morton of Edington, baptised 30 December, 1712 - Mitford
Ann daughter of William Morton of Edington, baptised 6 March, 1715 - Mitford
Ann Morton, daughter of William Morton, Edington, buried 8 March, 1715 - Mitford
John son of William Morton, baptised 14 May, 1719 [buried at Whittingham 12th of August 1774] - Mitford
Henry son of William Morton of Edington, baptised 13 June, 1720 - Mitford
Mary daughter of William Morton of Edington, baptised 23 November, 1721 - Mitford
Henery Morton, son of William Morton of Edington, buried 16 September, 1723 - Mitford
William Morton, Edington, buried 28 July, 1741 - Mitford
William Morton of Edington appears to have been the son of another William who lived at the Gudgeon in Mitford parish (Edington and the Gudgeon or Gubeon are next to each other to the south of Mitford). Here are his parish register entries:
William Murton and Ann Taylor, married 12 May 1664 - Morpeth
Mary daughter of William Morton, baptised 27th of August 1665. Sureties: John Morton, Urseley Wilson, Phillydolpha Tailer - Morpeth
Mary Murton daughter of William Morton, buried 25 June 1666 - Morpeth
George son of William Murton, baptised 13 September 1667 - Morpeth
John son of William Morton, ye Gudgeon, baptised 14 August, 1670 - Mitford
Isabel daughter of William Morton, ye Gudgeon, baptised 24 April, 1673 - Mitford
William son of William Morton, Gudgeon, baptised 20 February, 1675 - Mitford
Ann daughter of William Morton, ye Gudgeon, baptised 27 March, 1679 - Mitford
Isabell Morton, ye Gudgeon, buried 15 July, 1681 - Mitford
Anna, uxor William Murton, Gudgeon, buried 2 November 1693 - Mitford
I also have:
1668: Tenants in the Baronia de Mitford; Edington:...William Morton...(Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of Newcastle upon Tyne, Vol. 9, p. 86 - Court Roll of Stainton, Northumberland)
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Just as one further aside, I have this
Mary daughter of Henry Morton of Edington, baptised 4 March, 1757 - Mitford
Henry was John's brother and this Mary is an almost exact fit for your Mary in terms of date. Henry died in 1800.
There's another puzzle for you!
Kind regards
Andrew Morton
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Hi there,
This is a strange one!
Rule no. 1 is that a lot of mine are strange :-)
Thank you SO much, that is a lot of info and such a lot of your time and help is very much appreciated. I am especially thrilled with the MI info that links the two families. Lots for me to go through and digest but I will go through it very carefully.
Boo
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Happy to help! If you need to come back to me for more info, please do.
Andrew
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Incidentally, regarding that baptism of Mary daughter of Henry, it’s possible that the parish clerk wrote the wrong name down. I must check that out.
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Having now checked again my suspicion may be right as the Mitford parish register has:
Mary daughter of Henry Morton of Edington, baptised 4 March, 1757 - Mitford
Ann daughter of Henry Morton of Edinton, baptised 12 April, 1757 - Mitford
It's reasonable to suppose that the clerk has made a mistake.
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The MI that ends with "Mary their daur, & w. of Robert Mavin of Glanton 16-4-1833 age 84" really has helped enormously
Whittingham Burials Register 1833
Page 678, entry 541
Robert Mavin, Abode Glanton, buried 18th April aged 81
and a notice in the Newcastle Journal on 20th April 1833 says
At Glanton, on the 16th inst., aged 81, Mr Robert Maving, joiner
Though his age is slightly out, either the mason got it wrong or the stone was worn and whoever transcribed it mistook the final character for a 4. Otherwise its ticking all the boxes and, as you said, provides a trackable connection to Mary's parents - not that I disbelieved you at all, I just need to also check this out for myself so I am doubly sure before I add her parents to my tree.
I only do baby steps so that's my first one taken. With all the wonderful info its going to be the first step on a very long walk :-)
Thanks again Andrew I am doing the little happy dance here :-)
Boo