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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: Lorie Knight-Begin on Tuesday 27 October 15 15:07 GMT (UK)
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Looking for the newspaper obituary for Frederick Watson, who lived in St. Vincent's. He died on April 20, 1961, and is buried in Belvedere Cemetery.
What i am really interested in................is if he lists his parents names in the obituary. I understand the copyright laws.
Thanks.
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Hello Lorie
I have contacted The St John's Public library and if they can find a obituary they will send it on to me.
If found I will forward it on to you via PM.
I did find this family on another site and there were 10 children born to them some which may be still living so will not post names. I can PM you if you wish. I can tell you that Frederick was a fisherman and was born in 1887.
Lilybell
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Thank you very much for the kind offer.
Lorie
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The Watson stuff you see online, is probably mine. I have it posted on Ancestry.ca.
Lorie
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Hi Lorie
I went onto FamilySearch and they have Newfoundland census records for 1935 and 1945 which has information on Frederick and Stella's family along with a marriage for Fred and Stella which took place 17 Jan 1920. Also found a marriage for a Fred K Watson who married a Mary Gibbans July 27 1913. Could this be your Fred? I see from the census records that Fred was born in Germany have you found a passenger record for him? I will take a look and see if I can find him anywhere.
It is helpful if you indicate what information you already have when posting a request.
The library indicated it could be a day or two to send the obit if there is one.
Lilybell
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Sry, in hindsight i maybe should have done that, but at the same time, didn't want to clutter up, with what i have. Everything you are finding, is what I have so far. My dilemma, is, that I am just guessing at Frederick's parents. I think, they may have been Frederick Watson and Mary Halleran, but need proof. Was hoping his obit would name his parents. I also think he has a brother Bernard/Benjamin, but again need proof of parents. I have checked out what is available in parish records, and census records online, and am still coming up blank.
The Watson Family Tree, that is on Ancestry.com is mine, but needs to be updated. Was hoping to do this after i find Fred's parents.
Lorie
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Sry for the blonde moment. The Frederick Watson, I am looking for was married to Stella(Hayward) Watson.
He died on April 20, 1961. and she died on July 29, 1988.
His tombstone is handmade, and has no date of birth, and the census records, that are availabe give varying ages.
Frederick, was married 1st to Catherine Halleran, who died in 1918, after giving birth to five childre. Frederick then married Stella Hayward, in 1920, and had a bunch more children, some who are still living.
Lorie
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Hi Lorie
After looking at the 1935 and 1945 census for Newfoundland I see a William Watson born 1880 in Germany on the same page with Fred do you suppose they could be brothers?
Will keep looking.
Lilybell
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Yes, i saw that too, and it does not jive with previous census records. I think the census taker was incorrect. No evidence of being born in Germany. All other records, says they were born in ST. Vincent's, and were either English for British.
Even the naming patterns don't match for Frederick being German. It is odd, though, that i cannot find a marriage record for Fred to Catherine Halleran. I know there were married for sure, because of their son's Peter and George, who list Fred and Catherine as their parents on their marriage records overseas..
After Catherine dies, in 1918, George appears in the family of Catherine's mother, on the 1921 census as adopted, if memory serves me correctly.
Lorie
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Good morning Lorie,
Just a bit of a update on Frederick first off after contacting one of the libraries I was told there is no obituary for Frederick and secondly he is buried at St. Vincent's RC Cemetery rather than Belvedere.
There is a lot of information on the Family History Society of Newfoundland and Labrador but they are only open on Thursdays 9-1. You could try checking them out. I think some are available online but if not one would need to buy a membership which is quite pricey.
Another thought in looking for Frederick's birthplace and family information you could try Library and Archives Canada and order a copy of his National Registration 1940 which all Canadians had to fill out prior to WW11 there is also one for 1918 WW1. The cost is $48-$50 Canadian you can check out the site and it gives you what is included on the Registration.
I will keep looking around. Could you please tell me where you live
Lilybell
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Hi
I live in Windsor, Ontario. Thanks for the information on the National Register, I had never heard of that. Just waiting to find out if Newfoundland was part of this registry, as they didn't become part of
Canada until 1949. Don't want to spend 50 bux, if not.
I did know the Fred was buried in St. Vincent's. No idea why i said Belvedere.........probably cause i am working on this whole family. I have the CD from Stonepics that covers this cemetery.
I do have a membership for the Newfoundland Family History Center, and nothing online.
Just learning about the Newfoundland records, and what is available. I have tentative parents for Frederick, but hate to guess. Wish more stuff was online, as everything else is too costly for someone on a retirement pension.
Any advice you can give is greatly appreciated.
Lorie
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Hello Lorie
I have sent in a request to the reference section of the Newfoundland/Labrador provincial Library for information on Frederick so it might take a while before I hear back from them.
I also contacted the Provincial Archives in St. John's and they have Parish records for St.Mary's District but unfortunately all records for Placentia Bay Parish burned in a fire. They do have about 10 years indexes that the community more or less put together from memory. There is a $20.00 search fee. I wonder if they would do a look up and if they accept credit cards or you might be able to print off a request form and send it in. Its worth a try.
If you want to provide more information that you do not want to post to list just PM me.
Lilybell