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Title: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Monday 26 October 15 18:54 GMT (UK)
My grandfather 1875-1945 was a qualified Medical Practitioner (1900). I have discovered most of his career moves but am totally stuck for the period 1911 - 1918. He was in the 3rd Dundee Highlanders Volunteer Battalion, the Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) as a Surgeon-Lieutenant w.e.f. 1903. He also worked in TB Sanatoria in Gloucestershire at least until 1911(as per Census) but ? what happened to him then. I know he was living in  Braunton, Devon when he died.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: cath151 on Monday 26 October 15 19:16 GMT (UK)
Hi
Welcome to Rootschat :)
He was still at the sanatorium in 1913
1913 Medical Register Alexander Kirk Traill
Sanatorium, Salterley Grange near Cheltenham.
I expect you have his marriages and divorce, a few mentions in the papers including a lovely wedding photo. In 1923 he was described as  a medical practitioner of Braunton with Messrs, Wright and Traill.
Still missing his wartime years unfortunately.
Cathy :)
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Monday 26 October 15 19:25 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much Cathy - that's another two years covered and I hadn't discovered that he was back in Braunton by 1923. Yes I have the marriage(s) and divorce articles. I really thought there would be a record somewhere covering his war time involvement. Thank you again and for responding so quickly.

Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: cath151 on Monday 26 October 15 19:26 GMT (UK)
North Devon Journal  29 Oct 1914
Braunton
"the body was taken by cart to the surgery at the Square where Drs, F.R Wright and Traill attended to the case".
Cathy
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Monday 26 October 15 19:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Cathy - you're brilliant. My son and I have been researching the Doc for a few weeks now and, in half an hour, you're finding things out that we hadn't come across. 

Will I be able to access the complete article ?
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 26 October 15 20:43 GMT (UK)

1913 Medical Register Alexander Kirk Traill
Sanatorium, Salterley Grange near Cheltenham.


Adding to Cathy's info above, Alexander was still showing at this address in 1915 and 1917 on the UK Medical Register.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 26 October 15 20:49 GMT (UK)
A little confusion though...the divorce papers, that you have, show:

...The petitioner stated that his marriage to the respondent, Doris Eva Triall, took place at St. Stephens Church, Cheltenham, on September 23 1913, and since the marriage he had lived at Braunton. There was one child of the marriage, a girl born in 1914...

Monica
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Monday 26 October 15 21:04 GMT (UK)
 Yes it is a bit confusing. It just doesn't seem possible for him to be working at Salterley Grange sanatorium and in a GP practice in Braunton. But wonder how much he had to do at the Grange - no antibiotics then and the care mostly consisted of good diet, warmth and fresh air at that time. As a Volunteer in the black watch I felt he would be assigned to the eared fort somewhere. Thank you for your help 😀😀
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: cath151 on Monday 26 October 15 21:36 GMT (UK)
Hi
The article is available on Findmypast though there is no more info about Alexander. Possibly some small mentions in the British Newspaper Archives? Not available free unfortunately.
Cathy
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Monday 26 October 15 21:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you for getting  back. I will certainly try the sites you mention.. Thanks again😄😄
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Nettie on Tuesday 27 October 15 13:57 GMT (UK)
I don't know whether you have this,but if you Google North Devon Journal 1945 Dr Alexander Traill, it will take you to a few sites with journal entries. Looks like GenesReunited is the best one but I don't subscribe there so can't check.
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Nettie on Tuesday 27 October 15 14:44 GMT (UK)
You noted his service with The Black Watch in WWI. Have you checked out their comprehensive website which includes tracing a soldier? http://www.theblackwatch.co.uk/history-and-research/tracing-a-soldier/ (http://www.theblackwatch.co.uk/history-and-research/tracing-a-soldier/)
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Tuesday 27 October 15 20:48 GMT (UK)
Thank you Nettie. I am looking at the website you mention but not finding anything as yet. I will keep looking though as his service must be recorded somewhere. He just seems to have disappeared for the duration of the war but as a surgeon and member of the volunteer Black Watch Volunteers surely he must have been put to good use.  Thank you again 😄😄
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: giggsycat on Tuesday 27 October 15 21:27 GMT (UK)
You may have seen this already?


Cheltenham Chronicle Gloucestershire, England

1 May 1920
LOCAL DIVORCE SUIT

before Mr. Justice Horridge. Mr. Alexander Kirk Traill, a medical practitioner, of Broadlands. Braunton, Devon, formerly of the Cotswold Sanitorium, Stroud, sued this \indef<*nded for divorce from his wife, Doris Traill, nee Leaver, the ground her adultery


Western Times Devon, England

27 Apr 1920


Braunton Doctor and His | Wife's Lover DECREE NISI GRANTED In Divorce Division Friday, Dr. Alexander Traill was granted a decree nisi the adultery of his wife, Doris, with Dr. Robert Harvey Williams. The case was undefended.

There is a little more but I don't have full access.

.........also this:


North Devon Journal Devon, England

27 Sep 1923
INTERESTING BRAUNTON WEDDING

INTERESTING BRAUNTON WEDDING. , TRAILL— GOD LEY. At Ashfird Church yesterday morning, the (hnjf took place ot Dr. Alexander Kirk Traill, ' Broadlands, Braunton, to Miss Barbara Sybil Godley, second daughter of Mr. A. W. Godlev, M.A., and Mrs. Guihyllroyd.......

.............and


Cheltenham Looker-On Gloucestershire, England

27 Sep 1913
SOCIETY WEDDING IN CHELTENHAM

Dr. Alexander Kirk Traill and Miss Doris Leaver. \ WEDDING, which aroused considerable interest in Cheltenham society circles, was solemnised on Tuesday, at St. Stephen's Church, when Dr. Alexander Kirk Traill, son of the late Rev. John Traill, Jaipore...........

.........and


North Devon Journal Devon, England

15 Mar 1945
THE LATE DR. A. K. TRAILL

THE LATE DR. A. K. TRAILL Memorial Service at Braunton A-memorial service for the late Dr. Alexander Kirk Traill, who died at Tyspane, Braunton, Tuesday of last week, was held in St. Brannock's Church. Braunton. Saturday. The Vicar (the Rev. J. H. Prince.........
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: giggsycat on Tuesday 27 October 15 21:57 GMT (UK)
I looked at the original and it does give these names. Not sure what happened there!

Marriages Sep 1923   
Godby    Barbara S    Traill    Barnstaple    5b   1007    
Traill    John K    Godby    Barnstaple    5b   1007

Children?

Births Sep
Traill    Trevor A    Godby    Barnstaple    5b   647    

Births Mar 1927   
Traill    Jean B G    Godby    Barnstaple    5b   581

----------------------------

Deaths Mar 1958   
TRAILL    Barbara S    69    Barnstaple    7a   317
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Tuesday 27 October 15 22:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks for second post. His second wife was Barbara Godby and he had two children Trevor and Jean. Trevor died aged 2. Thanks again 😄😄
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Tuesday 27 October 15 22:06 GMT (UK)
I did write a longer note but think I lost it when your second post arrived - but thank you for other journal entries too giggsycat
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: giggsycat on Tuesday 27 October 15 22:17 GMT (UK)
North Devon Journal Devon, England

Family Notice

TRAILL. —On March 6th. 1945, at Tyspane, Braunton. Alexander Kirk Traill. M.D.. dear husband of Barbara Sybil Traill. Cremation (private). Memorial Service. Braunton Parish Church. Saturday


Western Times Devon, England

13 Jul 1923

The engagement is announced of Alex. K. Traill, M.8., o: Broadk;nds, and Barbara Sybil, daughter the Augustus Wooldridge Codby, M.A. (Cantab), and Mrs. ol Ghxll Royd School.

..........just because they were there!


North Devon Journal Devon, England

10 Apr 1947
BRAUNTON

Hall on Easter Monday. Music was provided by the Devonaires Dance Band. The judges for the fancydress parade were Mrs. A. K. Traill, Dr. and Mrs. Shaw. Dr. J. A. Ritchie, and the sports officer of the Royal Marines.


North Devon Journal Devon, England

13 Dec 1945

SITUATIONS VACANT

good plain Cook for Private Nursery School.—Apply, Mrs. Traill, Tyspane. Braunton.

Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Tuesday 27 October 15 22:25 GMT (UK)
Thank you again. I'm just so grateful for every crumb of information. Am annoyed that I lost longer post to you as I explained bigger picture.  Will try to do that again tomorrow in post. sounds as though Alexander's widow continued to take part in BrAunton life after her husbands death in 45. Alexander was never married to my grandmother -part of the reason for the research !
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: colingvos on Saturday 11 November 17 15:25 GMT (UK)
My grandfather was Alexander Kirk Traill.  He was GP in Braunton. His second wife was Barbara Sybil Godby, they married in 1923. Their daughter, my mother , Jean Barbara Gordon Traill, lives in Spain.
Are we family?
Title: Re: Traill, Dr Alexander Kirk
Post by: Alcresta on Sunday 12 November 17 15:40 GMT (UK)
Dear Colin

Thank you for getting in touch. There is certainly a possibility that we have the same grandfather but its complicated. My fathers birth certificate does not identify his father but he was baptised ALEXANDER TRAILL Griffiths - GRIFFITHS being the name of my grand mother who was unmarried at the time.  I was always told that my grandfather was a Doctor and having looked into things a bit, I can certainly place him and my grandmother in the same place before my father was born. all This was a long time ago (my father was born in 1918) and who can blame anyone for what happened during war time when every day might be your last.  Perhaps that enough for now.  Let me know if you need anything more.