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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: sarabeth on Sunday 25 October 15 14:28 GMT (UK)
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My great great grandmother, Charlotte Forrester Baker, died several days after giving birth to a son in February 1877 at the Rotunda Hospital in Dublin. The baby's father was James Baker . I have the baby's birth record but he was not named.
Charlotte also left two young daughters, one of which was my great grandmother. The family resided at 13 Strandville Avenue in Clontarf.
My question is what would have happened to this child? He would have had to have been nursed in order to survive….Would he have been given up to relatives or to an orphanage? He did survive the birth so he went somewhere…
Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks..
Sara C.
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It's really impossible to say for sure what might have happened to the child.
Have you looked for a corresponding death in case he died soon after his mother?
If the family had money or a relative to care for the 3 children then they could have stayed at home with their father.
Did the father remarry? quite common for a widower with young children to look for a new wife to keep house and take care of his children.
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There was an extended family at that address. The grandmother, Amelia Ellis Baker Dixon, seemed to have owned the property…The father did remarry in 1885…I did search the death records and there are named infant Bakers but it could be any of them..I will take another look at that..
Sara
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Do you know the family's religion? If the child lived long enough there might be a baptismal record with a name(s) recorded.
What about Wills- would the children be mentioned in granny's, etc.? (don't forget to check the maternal side as well)
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They were COI….I will check to see if Granny had a will. I have not been able to find any records on the baby's mom…I can't even find a marriage record for Charlotte Forrester and James Baker. I do know that my great grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Baker, was born in Newbridge(Avoca) in 1874….so maybe she had family there…it is all a mystery!!!
Sara
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baptised in Clontarf
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/53946b0006218
sister Mary Jane
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGHH-JJM
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Hi There Sara
Do you know where Charlotte was buried ?
Tara
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Would this have been the first son born ?
What was James' father's name ?
Tara
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Do you have James on the 1901 Census ?
Tara
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Charlotte is buried in Clontarf Cemetery also some extended family it seems but not the little boy.
http://databases.dublincity.ie/cemeteries/advanced.php
Who raised the girls ?
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Link (http://databases.dublincity.ie/cemeteries/search.php) to Baker burials Clontarf; this requires you to click on Cemeteries Advanced Search
Type BAKER in Surname box and in Cemetery choose Clontarf from drop-down
Noting Amelia DIXON is named as directing the funeral of George's daughter Ellen to make a connection as shown below
If Amelia was James' mother
then most likely George BAKER who married Catherine CLERY was his brother
LINK (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm=&name2l=clery&namefm=george&namel=baker&location=&yyfrom=&yyto=&submit=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&diocese=&parish=¢ury=&decade=&ddBfrom=&ddMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmBfrom=&mmMfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyBfrom=&yyMfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddBto=&ddMto=&ddDto=&mmBto=&mmMto=&mmDto=&yyBto=&yyMto=&yyDto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&member0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=&member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&namef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7=&namel8=&namel9=&keyword=&event=) to his marriage and children's baptisms
Also a sister Frances BAKER married Michael McDermott - LINK (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/049a5a0520012)
and another brother Joseph BAKER married Maria MILLER - LINK (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/d060a30555314)
Their father is shown as Thomas BAKER a shopkeeper on the church records
On these presumptions you would assume that James BAKER
was the son of Thomas BAKER and Amelia ELLIS
however he may have been a visiting cousin or other relative
except for the fact that George's children are buried with Charlotte
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Hi,
Charlotte is buried in St. John the Baptist Cemetery in Clontarf. I believe James' Father was Thomas Baker who died in 1852. He was married to Amelia Ellis Baker Dixon.
Sara