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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: chatterer on Friday 23 October 15 23:20 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I have some info on a death certificate that i'm hoping one of you
great Rootschat members can help me with.
The 1st one is the cause of death which I think reads: 'Coronary Occlusion' but I can't make
out what else it says.
The second is the informant info which I think says 'to be cremated' but not 100% sure
Thanks guys,
Much appreciated
Marie
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Coronary Occlusion due to Arthero Sclerosis
K C P Gunson?
Causing the body to be cremated
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Coronary occlusion due to Atherosclerosis. Certified by Jno Helm? Coronor for the City of London, after post mortem with Inquest.
K C P Greenson. Causing the body to be cremated.
Did the person die in a hospital? Quite often I've seen informants shown as Mr X, nurse in charge or similar, causing the body to be buried when someone has died in a hospital, mental hospital or workhouse. Perhaps this person wanted to be cremated. The only other explanation is that for a cremation you need the signatures of 2 doctors so perhaps K C P Greenson was one of the doctors.
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Thanks guys,
It's a very strange certificate as this person was married and his mother lived nearby.
I didn't want to post anymore info as it was only in 1961 he died in St. Bartholomews, London.
Thanks again,
Marie
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Perhaps his mother didn't want to register the death, or couldn't for some reason, or as I suggested it was one of the doctors or nurses who registered it. In 1960s and 1970s registrars certainly visited maternity hospitals to register births so there's no reason they wouldn't also have had an office in a large hospital in London where deaths could be registered easily to save the family having to do it.
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My thoughts too Lizzie. I'm not sure if the procedure today is still the same as it was in the 1960's, but a friend of mine recently lost her son and a coroner and inquest was involved. My friend was not requested to register the death, it was carried out by the coroner or one of his team.
By the way Lizzie, your avatar fascinates me, have you found G Grandad yet?
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Coronary occlusion due to Atherosclerosis. Certified by Jno Helm? Coronor for the City of London, after post mortem with Inquest.
I agree, except I think the last bit says ".... without Inquest "
Don't know whether it makes much, or any, difference to your research Chatterer - just my twopennorth :)
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Mogwood, looking at the script again I see what you mean. The writer does appear to dot his t's rather than cross them (as in the t at the end of without).
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The Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages Regulations 1968 PART IX Regulation 52
(a)if the coroner in his notification certifies the cause of death disclosed by any report on a post-mortem examination of the body made by his direction under section 21 of the Coroners (Amendment) Act 1926, the entry in space 8 of the cause of death shall be of the cause of death as so certified, followed by the words “Certified by …”, the name and description of the coroner and the words “after post-mortem without inquest”; http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1968/2049/regulation/52/made
Stan
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Hi,
Thanks for your input everyone, greatly appreciated as always.
Solves another little bit of the enigma.
Marie :)
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By the way Lizzie, your avatar fascinates me, have you found G Grandad yet?
Jool - off topic, but the answer is no. The first time I have him is in 1884 when his name appears on my gran's birth certificate. My g.grandparents do not appear to have married, she was married previously and her husband was shown as deceased on her last child's birth certificate, in 1878 with him. I can't find a death for him but then he was a fisherman out of Hull and it could be he was lost at sea and the death not reported in the UK.
My g.grandfather stayed with the family and in the family home until his death in 1935, but where he was born and lived the first 20 odd years of his life is a complete mystery. There are dozens of trees on Ancestry who all have him with a certain set of parents. I don't know who the people are with these trees, but I do know the parents ascribed to him are not correct.
Sorry Marie - I meant to type "without" inquest, not "with". ???