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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tyrone => Topic started by: Daisy123 on Thursday 22 October 15 11:16 BST (UK)
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I have hit a brickwall regarding my uncles 1st wife. Everyone knew her as Ruby. Her maiden name was McCoy. Born approx. 1927 somewhere near Omagh. She married my uncle on 30th May 1959 at St Andrews Church, Kowloon, Hong Kong. The name on the certificate is Ruby McCoy. I have not seen the certificate and it was, apparently, an army wedding but I can find no details on it. She died in Ireland (don't know where) in approx. 1972. However my uncle says her real name was Matilda Rebecca Elizabeth McCoy. Other than an outward passenger list for a MRS Matilda McCoy on 30th April 1959 travelling to Hong Kong I can find no information for either a Ruby or Matilda. Can anyone help??
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In Ulster, Ruby is a ickname for Rebecca so she was probably known by her middle name. What was her married name?
Latest oline birth indexes for Northern Ireland only go up to 1921 (www.familysearch.org).
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1959 manifest shows Mrs. Matilda McCoy's address as 5 Main St., Fintona, Co. Tyrone (shorthand/typist) but that may not be where she was originally from.
Posting this as a possible 1st husband for your Matilda McCoy- although Wesley age 47 so born c1906:
McCoy Wesley of Bleary county Down commercial traveller died 3 February 1953 Administration Belfast 1 July to Matilda McCoy the widow. Effects £1968 2s. 4d.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Tullylish/Ballydugan/252575
Added- Wesley McCoy married 28 June 1932 Craigavon district to Matilda Carson
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The thing is we have no knowledge of her being married before.
Married name was Cutler.
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I may have missed something but if Wesley McCoy married his Matilda in 1932 it is unlikely to be the Matilda that Daisy123 is looking for as her Matilda/Ruby was born c1927
Brie
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I may have missed something but if Wesley McCoy married his Matilda in 1932 it is unlikely to be the Matilda that Daisy123 is looking for as her Matilda/Ruby was born c1927
Brie
Which is why I posted Wesley McCoy's age, 1911 census reference to confirm age, and, finally, added the marriage details to eliminate this Matilda McCoy as the possible Hong Kong bride.
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Hi There
Can I just note that in your original post you say that the name on the marriage cert says Ruby McCoy . . .
Yet, then you say that you have not seen the certificate nor can you find details on it.
Can you just clarify where you have gotten your information on her from ?!
Thanks
Tara
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My uncle gave me the details:
The name is Ruby McCoy
St Andrews Church Kowloon Hong Kong
entry number 544
Certificate number 52083
30th May 1959
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Hi There
Super
I would suggest looking for other McCoys travelling to the same region.
Hopefully a sibling or the like may have have travelled there too and you may get better leads through their paperwork !
Tara
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BTW
Does the marriage cert not give her father's name or occupation ?
I've never worked with HK records though so don't know what they contain !
Tara
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Hi There
Can I ask what information you are looking for on this person ?
I am presuming that your Uncle is still alive.
Is he aware of Ruby's parent's names etc ?
Tara
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Yes my uncle is still alive but his memory is not what it was. Added to this is the fact that, according to other relatives, Ruby tended to lie a lot. It just bugs me that I have this brickwall on my tree. I'd like to be sure when and where she was born and died and clear up whether she was previously married. He is not sure on her parents names - could be Thomas and Martha but not sure. The only information he said was on the wedding certificate is what I gave you. Unfortunately he cannot tell me any more than I've told you - in spite of being married to her!!
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Aw,
Sure none of our memories are great !
It's not a great timeline to be looking for a Northern Irish lass ~ 1921 being the cutoff for online searches.
Hopefully there were older siblings which may pop up but you'd need her parent's names to be sure that you were working with the correct family.
Tara
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Just in case the parents were Thomas & Martha McCoy-
McCoy Martha of Aghinlark county Tyrone widow died 23 August 1944 Administration Belfast 18 January to Robert McCoy electrician. Effects £224 10s.
McCoy Thomas of Aghinlark county Tyrone farmer died 22 April 1952 at Tyrone County Hospital Omagh county Tyrone Probate Belfast 10 June to John McCoy farmer. Effects £221 19s. 3d.
Aghinlark is northeast of Fivemiletown. http://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/aghinlark/
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Martha McCoy aged 81 so born c1863 :(
Thomas McCoy age 58 so born c1896
Looking better-
Thomas McCoy married (9 June 1926 Omagh district) Martha Moore
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It's not a great timeline to be looking for a Northern Irish lass ~ 1921 being the cutoff for online searches.
Yep I was coming to that conclusion!
Looking better-
Thomas McCoy married (9 June 1926 Omagh district) Martha Moore
That could be promising. Thank you
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Based on the information in the 1926 marriage of Thomas McCoy and Martha Moore, here is Thomas in the 1901/1911 census returns:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Fintona/King_Street/1743529/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Fintona/King_Street/872185/
And from the same 1926 marriage, Martha Moore in 1901/1911 (note the family forenames in 1911):
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Fintona/Church_Street/1743476/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Fintona/Church_Street/872145/
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It's years since the last post on this subject but I hope you get this message. Ruby McCoy is my mother. I have her family tree. If you ask your uncle for my contact details I am happy to fill in the gaps. I have just joined Roots so only seeing all this now.