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Title: Alfred Well
Post by: kazza41 on Wednesday 21 October 15 19:40 BST (UK)
Hi can anybody help  ??? I am looking for my G G Grandfather Alfred Wells Born abt 1845 in Shadwell he was a Painter decorator.He lived in Hornsey and Tottenham. He married Lavinia Blackaller cannot find any marriage or birth for either grandparents. I have hit a brick wall. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: groom on Wednesday 21 October 15 19:46 BST (UK)
When was Lavinia born?

Is this any relation - a death?

ELIZA LAVINIA  BLACKALLER
Dec quarter 1865
Shoreditch
Volume   1C  Page   127
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: groom on Wednesday 21 October 15 19:48 BST (UK)
Possible birth?

LAVINIA BLACKALLER
Sept quarter 1841
Shoreditch
Volume   2  Page   340
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: groom on Wednesday 21 October 15 19:50 BST (UK)
This is her baptism

Lavinia Blackaller
Baptism :   18 Jul 1841
Father:   Thomas Blackaller
Mother:   Elizabeth Blackaller
Shoreditch St Leonard
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 21 October 15 19:51 BST (UK)
1851 (as transcribed)-

Elizabeth Blackall   wid 52
John Blackall   21
Henry Blackall   17
George Blackall   14
Ann Blackall   11
Lavinia Blackall   9 b.    Shoreditch, Middlesex

HO107 Piece 1537 Folio 547 Page 24, Shoreditch

JJ
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: groom on Wednesday 21 October 15 19:57 BST (UK)
There seem to be quite a few trees online with her and Alfred, but none have a marriage, so it is possible that there wasn't one. Even doing a search with just her first name, nothing shows up.
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: groom on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:03 BST (UK)
A possible for Alfred. Shadwell comes under the Stepney registration district

Births Sep 1845   
 
WELLS    Alfred Sladen       
Stepney    2   463
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:12 BST (UK)
There is a marriage of an Alfred Sladon Wells -
 
q2 1883, Lewisham
Vol1d Page 1225

But no Lavinia on the same page.

JJ
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: kazza41 on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:18 BST (UK)
Thank you you did that quickly. lavinia died 1923 in hackney. Lavinia was born abt 1841. Have some census's but really struggling with alfred as there are so many. The birth you found seems to be the right one thank you so much
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: kazza41 on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:22 BST (UK)
I was thinking that the Eliza Lavinia Blackaller could be Lavinia's mother ?
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:25 BST (UK)
Quote from: JJen on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:12 BST (UK)
There is a marriage of an Alfred Sladon Wells -
 
q2 1883, Lewisham
Vol1d Page 1225

But no Lavinia on the same page.

JJ

That one married Lucy Outlaw, in 1891 Alfred b c 1845 Mile End
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: groom on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:33 BST (UK)
If he was sure he was born Shadwell, can we eliminate this Stepney registration? I know it is 2 years out, but possibly he lied about his DOB as he was younger than Lavinia.

Births Jun 1847   
 
Wells    Alfred Charles       
Stepney    2   475
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: kazza41 on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:41 BST (UK)
he said on the census he was born in Shadwell. Thought if i could find his marriage banns i could find fathers name  ???
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: groom on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:58 BST (UK)
Quote from: kazza41 on Wednesday 21 October 15 20:41 BST (UK)
he said on the census he was born in Shadwell. Thought if i could find his marriage banns i could find fathers name  ???

Unfortunately it is looking as if they didn't marry!  :'(
Title: Re: Alfred Well
Post by: kazza41 on Wednesday 21 October 15 21:05 BST (UK)
Seems that way. Thank you so much for help im very greatful :)