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Cornelius BLACHFORD
He was born around 1823 in Brockenhurst. He married Mary SHEPHARD in 1846 and I have him in the 1851-1881 censuses. He died in 1884. I have Mary in the 1891 and 1901 censuses. She died in 1901.
However, I cannot find him in the 1841 census, when I hoped he'd still be with his parents.
Alexander BLACHFORD
Alexander was baptised 28 Sept 1856. He married Rhoda COLLINS in 1884. I have him in the 1861- 1911 census with the exception of the 1881. He is NOT the Alexander in London/Surrey.
I've tried newspaper reports in case he'd been naughty and was in prison, but no joy there. The only mention he gets is when a nursery maid stole a money box from one of his children in 1892.
The only mention Cornelius gets is as the father of Alice Jane when she married in 1875.
BLACHFORD is often mistranscribed as BLACKFORD.
Can anyone find Cornelius and/or Alexander in the censuses please?
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A possibility for Cornelius as Blackford living Brockenhurst - image is very poor
HO107 /393 Book 11 Folio 13 page 20
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M794-JPQ
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Ancestry has an Alexander BLASHFORD, b. 1857, Brockenhurst, living in Brockenhurst as a servant in the household of a J L Popham . Also there is a female 20yo "A Blashford, cook" in the same household.
STG
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posting whilst red writing
1881 census
surname transcribed as BLASHFORD Anc*y
RG11; Piece: 1191; Folio: 78; Page: 8
Downlands Lymington Hampshire
Alexander Blanchford 24 Brockenhurst Hampshire domestic servant
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Rosie99 had already posted details of 1841 census sorry missed it ::) so I've edited my post
A possibility for Cornelius as Blackford living Brockenhurst - image is very poor
HO107 /393 Book 11 Folio 13 page 20
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M794-JPQ
Have to agree the 1841 image is poor looks as if Albert & Cornelious occ. read Ag Lab./lab.
Christening Brokenhurst Hampshire 1823 Cornelius BLASHFORD parents Robert & Harriet
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7Y4-J78
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Knightsroots has Cornelius's baptism, son of Robert & Harriet Blashford abode Blackamsley Farm, occ Bailiff 9 March 1823
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And Albert s/o same parents bapt 26 Apr 1818
daughter Caroline bapt October 22 1820, Robert's occ is farmer on this one
and Martha bapt 1 jan 1832
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Burial at Brockenhurst
24 July 1853 Harriet Blashford age 62 abode Milford
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possible marriage
4 Apr 1814 Ibsley Hampshire
Robert BLACHFORD to Harriet PHILOTT
Possibly two more children (familysearch.org) parents Robert & Harriet
14 May 1815 Alfred BLACHFORD
2 Feb 1817 Harriett BLANKFORD
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HO107 , Piece 393, Book 11, Folio 25 page 12
has Robert a publican b abt 1796, with Caroline 20, Harriet 20 and Martha 9.
had the family split up and living at different addresses?
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Together in 1851 ???
Piece 1666, Folio 422, page 2
Harriet born Ibsley, Robert born Fordingbridge, living Milton. Hiss occupation farmer of 60 Acres
There is a burial at Brockenhurst in jan 1865 for a Robert Turner Blachford from near farnborough, nearest on FreeBMD Q1 1865 Farnborough is a Robert james Blackford no age given.
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Familysearch has baptism of a Robert Toomer Blatchford in Fordingbridge on 28 May 1792 s/ o
Robert Richard and Mary.
Also at Fordingbridge
Robert s/o Robert and Mary bapt 21 Dec 1783 (probably too early)
Robert s/o Robert and Dorothy bapt 20 Jun 1795
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Wow!! :D
A huge round of thanks to Rosie 99, SmallTownGirl, Ladyhawk and LizzieL for coming up trumps - and so fast! :D
I'm not sure if Robert and Harriet did separate or not, LizzieL. I've an instance later where a couple were together in one census, at different places in the next, then together again. In both cases, they may have been visiting friends or relatives on census night, having a change of air for health reasons, or having a trial separation.
I had found a great many events in Fordingbridge but hadn't realised there was a connection until now :)
TOOMER is a name that appears again later but in the BRANs which is connected with the BLACHFORDs. This tree looks as though it'll resemble a spider's web before long :)
Many thanks to all of you for your help with finding these gentlemen and all the additional information. It is very much appreciated :)
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As Robert and Harriet were together in 1851, maybe living apart was for economic reasons. Harriet was with the two sons in 1841 and they were Ag labs, so maybe running the farm and she was keeping house for them.
Robert was an innkeeper and had the three daughters with him.
Possibly farm income wasn't enough to keep the whole family, so Robert managed to get the tenancy of an inn and the daughters (or at least the older two) were helping him run it.
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As Robert and Harriet were together in 1851, maybe living apart was for economic reasons. Harriet was with the two sons in 1841 and they were Ag labs, so maybe running the farm and she was keeping house for them.
Robert was an innkeeper and had the three daughters with him.
Possibly farm income wasn't enough to keep the whole family, so Robert managed to get the tenancy of an inn and the daughters (or at least the older two) were helping him run it.
That's certainly feasible. It only takes a crop failure, disease of crops and/or herd/flock, excessive or nowhere near enough rain, poor prices, and so on, for the family to struggle.
Somewhere, I have a link to a weather site which gives the general weather conditions for quite a long way back. I'll see if I can find it. If I can and it covers that period, it might give an indication.
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Ancestry has an Alexander BLASHFORD, b. 1857, Brockenhurst, living in Brockenhurst as a servant in the household of a J L Popham . Also there is a female 20yo "A Blashford, cook" in the same household.
I think the cook is Amelia Rose, but could be a lass from another branch of the family.
Cornelius and Mary had a "thing" about names beginning with A :D
1-Cornelius BLACHFORD b. c 1823, Brockenhurst, Hants, d. Q3 1884, (Lymington,
Hants)
+Mary SHEPHARD b. c 1823, Brockenhurst, Hants, m. Q3 1846, Brockenhurst,
Hants, d. Q3 1901, (Lymington, Hants)
|--2-Albert William BLACHFORD b. Dec 1847, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 2 Jan
| 1848, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Alice Jane BLACHFORD b. May 1849, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 27 May 1849,
| Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Agnes Belinda BLACHFORD b. Jan 1851, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 12 Jan
| 1851, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Alfred BLACHFORD b. c 1853, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Augustus Arthur BLACHFORD b. c 1855, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Alexander BLACHFORD b. Sep 1856, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 28 Sep 1856,
| Brockenhurst, Hants, d. Q3 1930, Lymington, Hants
|--2-Alvina BLACHFORD b. c 1859, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Amelia Rose BLACHFORD b. May 1861, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 21 May 1861,
| Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Adeline Matilda BLACHFORD b. Jun 1862, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 15 Jun
| 1862, Brockenhurst, Hants, d. Q3 1916, (Lymington, Hants)
|--2-Abner Edwin BLACHFORD b. Dec 1863, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 27 Dec 1863,
| Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Angelina BLACHFORD b. c 1863, Brockenhurst, Hants
None of the children appear to have been registered and I've only found some of the baptisms online so far.
Angelina only appears in one census and I think she's probably Adeline who's been mistranscribed by the enumerator.
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There is a burial at Brockenhurst in jan 1865 for a Robert Turner Blachford from near farnborough, nearest on FreeBMD Q1 1865 Farnborough is a Robert james Blackford no age given.
Robert's middle name is given as TUMER. I only found that when I did a C+P. Probably a misspelling of TOOMER.
I had a look at the image for Robert James and the transcriber understandably misread the scrunched up Toomer for James. There's a James on the next line and the initial letter is formed very differently in the two names. I've submitted a correction, now to see if it'll be accepted. I've added a Postem as well.
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Hi Connie,
I think I've already sent you the link to the online Blachford tree, right?
http://www.family-forest.co.uk/familytree/groups/grpname6.shtml#Blachford (http://www.family-forest.co.uk/familytree/groups/grpname6.shtml#Blachford)
I haven't checked all the info on there, but what I've looked at so far seems pretty good. It also includes some transcriptions of wills and things.
Good luck, cheers,
Owen
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Hi Connie,
I think I've already sent you the link to the online Blachford tree, right?
http://www.family-forest.co.uk/familytree/groups/grpname6.shtml#Blachford (http://www.family-forest.co.uk/familytree/groups/grpname6.shtml#Blachford)
I haven't checked all the info on there, but what I've looked at so far seems pretty good. It also includes some transcriptions of wills and things.
Hi :)
Thank you :)
I don't think so but it could have taken the scenic route because I've not heard from you for a while.
Jack started me off on his line :) He's been helpful with our BRANs.
I've found a few wobbles in various trees. I'll mail you the link to what I think is correct (but may not be!). I want to try to get over to Winchester, and New Forest, in the spring to verify what I have.
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I haven't checked all the info on there, but what I've looked at so far seems pretty good. It also includes some transcriptions of wills and things.
I've done a quick check on some of the names and it mostly matches what I have. I have some additional info in places but the author is as stumped as I am in others.
One of the things that surprised me is Brydges who seems to be from a gentry family if not aristocracy. I've yet to find a connection between him and Jack's family. It's early days though :)