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Title: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: Twinkle70 on Thursday 08 October 15 22:22 BST (UK)
Hi I'm a bit stuck trying to find my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell's family.
I don't know her mum or dads names; and I don't know if she had any siblings.
Rose was born in 1894, married William George Springate and died in 1980.

I have a newspaper clipping with her and her husband running for Lewisham council labour party in 1928. But I would like to know a bit more about her.

I would be very grateful for any information about her.
Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 22:26 BST (UK)
Is this her birth?

Rose Terrell
1894  Jan-Feb-Mar
St Olave Southwark
Volume:   1d  Page:   291

The certificate would give her parents' names.

Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 22:32 BST (UK)
I see the problem in 1901 she is with an aunt and uncle and in the next census is a servant!  They are quite old though to be an aunt or uncle and the other person is a nephew but 30. I'm afraid that it does look as if your only option is to get her birth certificate. Then we may be able to find the famly in 1891.

1901  RG13; Piece: 396; Folio: 101; Page: 17
Bermondsey

James Budney   62   ships labourer   Walden, Essex
Jane Budney   60                          Serme, Dorset
William E Elen   30 nephew               Bermondsey, London
Rose Terrell    7  niece                  Bermondsey, London
Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 23:17 BST (UK)
I wonder if this could be a sibling?

Annie Florence Terrell
Baptism:     16 Jul 1893
Father :   Thomas William Terrell
Mother :   Annie Terrell
Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene  Southwark
 
Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 08 October 15 23:36 BST (UK)
Aunt and uncle are Pudney, I think
Possible marriage in December 1859, Christ Church Rotherhithe
James Pudney and Jane Tyrell
Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 23:53 BST (UK)
That could lead to this - right place of birth as stated in 1901. So it depends whether Jane is Rose's aunt or Great aunt.
 
1851  HO107; Piece: 1560; Folio: 562; Page: 66
Bermondsey

Thos Terrell   50   Farmer              Carne, Dorset
Mary Terrell   40                           Carne, Dorset
Israel Terrell   19  Farmer               Carne, Dorset
George Terrell   12                           Carne, Dorset
Jane Terrell   10                           Carne, Dorset
Chas Terrell   8                             Carne, Dorset
Elizth Terrell   3                             Carne, Dorset
Fredk Terrell   1                             Bermondsey

I think Carne might be Cerne Abbas in Dorset.
Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: groom on Friday 09 October 15 00:05 BST (UK)
An online tree gives Thomas's father as Israel. If so, this looks like his baptism. From Family Search   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J76M-GQH

There are other Terrill/Terrell families there as well


Israel Terrill
Christening  :   17 Mar 1771
Cerne Abbas, Dorset, England
Father's name:   John Terrill
Mother's name:   Mary
Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: mirl on Friday 09 October 15 00:57 BST (UK)
I would have started with her marriage certificate to get her father's name, but I can't see on freeBMD any marriage of Rose Terrell and William Springate
Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: groom on Friday 09 October 15 01:18 BST (UK)
An online tree gives the marriage as

23 Dec 1913
Gorey, Jersey, Channel Islands


William George Springate
Birth 24 May 1894 iSaint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands
Death 31 March 1953 in London
Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: Twinkle70 on Monday 12 October 15 23:04 BST (UK)
Sorry for the late reply! Thank you for all of your research it is helping us out a lot.
Bit by bit slowly but surly tweaking our tree finding out more and more info about my ancestors. its nice to piece together all the things that we find out.
Title: Re: having trouble finding my great grandma Rose Florence Terrell & family
Post by: Neesargon on Thursday 24 March 16 23:01 GMT (UK)
Twinkle, I think you and I might be distantly related.
My grandfather was William Terrell, born 1875 in Bermondsey.
His father was George Terrell who was a skin dresser in the tanning trade.  He had been born in Cerne Abbas, Dorset in about 1840.  His parents were Thomas and Mary (nee Brownsey) who moved to Bermondsey between 1848 & 1850, presumably looking for work.

My grandfather was one of eight children.  I have all their names, dates etc.
If you are interested, please get in touch.  I should love to hear from you and see where you fit into the story.