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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: KimFretwell on Monday 05 October 15 21:29 BST (UK)
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My ggg grandfather was William Wilden (Wilding / Whilden ) born approx. 1831 in Suffolk (shown as Bacton / Culford on 1871 and 1861 census records). His wife was Sarah Flack, I think. I have found their marriage in 1852 but am struggling to trace her prior to this. She is on the 1871 and 1861 census with William. I have located a Sarah Flack on 1851 census visiting Ursula Batch who appears to be her married sister. On the 1841 census Ursula is living with her parents and family but no Sarah only a "Sally" - could this be the same person. Alternatively, there is another Sarah Flack on the 1841 census living with her parents and on the 1851 census the same Sarah is living with her parents but is shown as Sarah Nicholds plus a one year old daughter. I was following the second line originally based on other family trees on Ancestry but think this may be incorrect. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am really stumped and seem to have hit a dead end.
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Details of their marriage are available on FreeReg:
Sarah's father is shown as John Flack, farmer. One of the witnesses was William Flack (possibly a brother/cousin/uncle?)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
(One of my ancestors married into the Flack family of Lakenheath in 1901).
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Thanks so much for you help. I think I was travelling down the wrong route!
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BAPTISMS,
All Saints, Lakenheath
FLACK;
Parents JOHN/ELIZABETH Flack
ELIZABETH, 29 Dec 1822
MARY ANN, 1 April 1824
URSULA, 12 March 1826****
WILLIAM, 8 June 1828
ELIZA, 19 Sept 1830
JOSEPH, 24 June 1832
SALLY, 5 Jan 1834****
JAMES, 9 Aug 1835
JAMES, 6 Nov 1836
THOMAS, 1 Sept 1839
HANNAH, 21 March 1841
ELIZABETH, 4 Dec 1842
All earlier Baptisms above have Fathers Occp as Labourer.
From Thomas 1839 on wards John is a Farmer
One Baptism has John as John Jnr (so his Father likely John also)
Possible Marriage;
12 Oct 1822 same Church
John FLACK/Elizabeth DRAKE (Bachelor/Spinster)
Witnesses, Simon Flack/Sarah Mackender
Withe consent of Parents
URSULA Flack, Father John, Occp Farmer, married William BATCH, 27 May 1849 All Saints
Trish :)
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So this is the 1841;
John Flack, 40
Elizabeth Flack, 40
Ursla Flack, 15****
William Flack, 13
Eliza Flack, 10
Joseph Flack, 9
Sally Flack, 7****
James Flack, 4
Thomas Flack, 16 Mths
Hannah Flack, 3 Mths
Address, Decoy on Sedge Fen****
1851 Census
Decoy Fen (same address as 1841)****
Lakenheath, Suffolk
HO107/1793/333/13
John Flack, 52, Head, Mar. Landed Proprietor and Farmer 80 Acres, born Hilgay, Norfolk
Sarah Flack, 44, Wife, Mar, born Tuddenham, Suffolk
William Flack, 23, Son, Unm
James Flack, 15, Son
Thomas Flack, 13, Son
Hannah Flack. 11, Daug
Elisabeth Flack, 9, Daug
Children all born Lakenheath
So Elizabeth has died after Elizabeth 1842's Birth.
John has remarried to a SARAH.
FreeBMD 1850 to Sarah CROW or Sarah BRIDGMAN (maybe a Widow)
Ursula has married and Sally (Sarah) is with her as you have found in 1851 Census
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Wow, thanks so much Trish. I had spent ages following the wrong Sarah completely and it was making no sense. At last I have found my correct ggg granny!!!
I really appreciate your assistance
Kim
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Your welcome :)
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Are you aware of the Flack Genealogy site?
If not here is the link, loads of info there, including Lakenheath Flacks.
http://www.flackgenealogy.com/
Regards.
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Today having a bit more time, I decided to have a quick look at this site, knowing that the wife of an ancestor sibling of mine, maiden name Flack is mentioned.
Afterwards I clicked on the L in the Search section see below.
Go To Our Parish Registers
A B C D E F
G H I J K L
M N O P Q R
S T U V W X
Y Z
Clicking on the L brought up a load of Flack inhabited parishes beginning with L in various counties, clicked on Lakenheath and saw your Flacks there among loads of others, some entries mentioned "Elizabeth nee Drake".
Hope this is not "Coals to Newcastle" but if it is nothing lost.
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P.S.
Also in those Lakenheath Flacks:
Elizabeth Flack nee Drake buried 7 March 1849 aged 50.
In Lakenheath Marriages it states: John Flack Wdr married Sarah Place 7 Dec 1850.
Btw the entries are all transcripts from the PRs.
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Thank you for your guidance - wow there are a lot! I think Elizabeth Drake is in my ggg grandmother.
Thanks !
Kim
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Hi Kim,
Noting that the earliest Lakenheath Flack entry in those transcripts is 1795 I did a quick check in a couple of other parishes to see if that was the earliest for all and found one entry dated 1632. So it looks your Flacks came from other parishes pre 1795, however if you want to continue with Flack research those transcripts could be very useful.
My Flack interest is a bit different to yours, mine is not a blood relative, she is the wife of my maternal grandmother's brother.
Her name is Councellatta Flack, a Romany Gypsy, in 1924 she married my great uncle Arthur Searles in Essex, by 1924 she and her sister, named would you believe Sylvester, had given up the Gypsy life.
My mother met Councellatta and liked her and I and my wife met her daughter in 2004 when we visited the UK. Councellatta and her family are mentioned in the Flack site, I supplied some of that info and one of the site's co-owners, Denise with whom I corresponded, helped me find other info.
Btw keep in mind these are transcripts so there could be further info in the actual PR entries.
Good luck with your research.
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I was very interested to read these posts. My grandmother's family are Flack from Lakenheath and my ggg grandmother is Elizabeth Drake (born 1799). The same relationship as mentioned by Kim in the earlier posts. Elizabeth Drake married John Flack in 1822 and my gg grandfather, William Flack, was born in 1828. His sister Sarah (listed as Sally in the census) was born in 1833. I guess my William was the witness at Sarah's wedding mentioned in the posts. I have no later record of Sarah's branch of the family. However, I have earlier details of direct Flack ancestors going back to to John Flack born in 1581 and the Drake family back to James Drake born in 1708. Lakenheath cemetery (on Wings Road) has the graves of many of the family names on my Flack family tree though few are direct ancestors.