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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: merlin398 on Saturday 03 October 15 18:57 BST (UK)
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I'm looking for anything about Sydney he was born in Lambeth, London in 1897. father was Fredrick Archbold--mother was Jessie Holland both were actors. His father died in 1908 and his mother had left before that, so he was cared for by an actors orphanage. I think he went to Freemantle WA in 1926. can anyone help ? He was my grandmother older brother.
Regards
Graham
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Here is his burial
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00019499
Regards
Ros
adding : from WA BDM http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/
ARCHBOLD Sydney Herbert, father Frederick. mother unknown, at Perth, 1963 reg 2947
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Marriage in 1920
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article157080813
Can see index here http://www.wamarriage.info/ or http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/
Regards
Ros
A very pretty, wedding was celebrated in
the Albany Baptist Church on Sunday after
noon last between Mr Sydney H. Archbold
(late 2nd Lieut. 5th Batt, Tank Corps),
D.C.M., M.M., eldest son of Mr and Mrs A.
Archbold, of London, England, and Miss
Emily Brown, eldest daughter of Mr and.
late Mrs S. Brown, of Albany, and sister of
Mr W. Brown, of Narrogin.
(I think it is him despite wrong initial for parents ??? Yes from ww2 service summary it has correct date and place of his birth and NOK Emily)
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Sad news of the death of his son
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article81955911
and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46299972
Inquest
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46310169
adding : Death notice gives names of brothers and sisters http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46299801
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A burglary from his shop
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78206499 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46275261
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From W.A. BDM http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/
Emily ARCHBOLD died 1963 parents Samuel and Charlotte in Perth reg 3027
Her burial http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00122732
regards
Ros
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Sidney ARCHBOLD's service summary for WW2
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=827540
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Engagement of daughter http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article47820689 (marriage in 1950 on
http://www.wamarriage.info/ )
And birth of a son to the couple http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49229864
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Death notice for Emily's father (Samuel Brown) in 1940 gives names of his ARCHBOLD grandchildren
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46366336
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Birth of a grandson in Canberra to daughter J (can see her marriage in http://www.wamarriage.info/) and annoucement of approaching marriage here http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article47641277
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2758322
Birth of a daughter to the couple http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article138118877
And another son http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2831821
adding : Photo :) of J http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article59477890 at an earlier engagement
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Engagement of son P http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49047727
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article167085146
adding : engagement of son T
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46818133
Birth to T and wife http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49608679
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Possibly photo and engagement of daughter B
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article52949949
And wedding photo confirms she is daughter of S.H. ARCHBOLD
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article59697849
And a beach pic http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article39108794
adding : On http://www.wamarriage.info/ marriage is mistranscribed with surname arcbold
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Terence Sydney ARCHBOLD, a son of Sydney and Emily, died 31/03/2014 aged 89. He was formerly a resident of Bentley.
He married in 1948
ARCHBOLD Terence S
CURTIS Audrey
At Perth
2790
1948
Audrey Olive died 14/08/2001 aged72. She was formerly a resident of Carlisle
Both are interred at Karrakatta.
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php
Sue
ADDING
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/59154277
Bike accident for Terence aged 16 in 1941.
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Hi,
Arrived in Fremantle on the 'Benalla' from London on 26th September 1926.
Sydney Archbold, 30, Iron salesman.
Emily Archbold, 29, housewife.
Joan Archbold, 5, scholar.
James Archbold, 2, child.
Terence Archbold, 1, child.
Gerry
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Thank you all for the information. Many questions answered.
thanks
Graham
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Still a bit confused. Sydney and Emily married in 1920 in WA.
Then arrived at Freemantle with 3 children in 1926?
I wonder if they returned to UK at some point.
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Mr Sydney H. Archbold
(late 2nd Lieut. 5th Batt, Tank Corps),
D.C.M., M.M., eldest son of Mr and Mrs A.
Archbold, of London, England,
I think you should follow up his British WW1 record through the UK chat board or someone here may have knowledge of the 5th Batt, Tank Corps and advise you.
There may be clues in his records, if they are available, about his original departure from England which found him in WA in 1920.
Sue
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Hi,
Arrived in Fremantle on the 'Benalla' from London on 26th September 1926.
Sydney Archbold, 30, Iron salesman.
Emily Archbold, 29, housewife.
Joan Archbold, 5, scholar.
James Archbold, 2, child.
Terence Archbold, 1, child.
Gerry
Still a bit confused. Sydney and Emily married in 1920 in WA.
Then arrived at Freemantle with 3 children in 1926?
I wonder if they returned to UK at some point.
Mr ARCHBOLD 25 years, Engineer and Mrs ARCHBOLD, 22 years, domestic duties arrived Southampton on 3 Jun 1920, from Fremantle on the ORONTES.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Jun 1921
ARCHBOLD Joan E BROWN Brentford 3a/317
Births Mar 1924
ARCHBOLD James S BROWN Hammersmith 1a/324
Births Mar 1925
ARCHBOLD Terence S BROWN Brentford 3a/292
Cando
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http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
There are two ARCHBOLD births in 1927 and 1929 in Perth. Both theirs.
Cando
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Thank you Cando and all the others that have helped me
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I'm looking for anything about Sydney he was born in Lambeth, London in 1897. father was Fredrick Archbold--mother was Jessie Holland both were actors. His father died in 1908 and his mother had left before that, so he was cared for by an actors orphanage. I think he went to Freemantle WA in 1926. can anyone help ? He was my grandmother older brother.
Regards
Graham
The only marriage I can find for a Frederick ARCHBOLD to a Jessie is the one below.
Frederick committed bigamy in 1895 as he married his first wife in 1883. She petitioned and was successful in divorcing him in 1897 on the grounds of bigamy and adultery.
The divorce file gives his occupation as Actor and Jessie as Actress on their 1895 marriage certificate in the file.
Marriages Mar 1895 - Frederick stated he was a widow aged 35 years and Jessie was 20 years of age and an actress. Jessie's father was Daniel BURGESS.
ARCHBOLD Frederick James Cockermouth 10b/788
BURGESS Jessie Edith Cockermouth 10b/788
Births Dec 1895
ARCHBOLD Sidney Herbert Lambeth 1d/382
In the 1901 Census Frederick J ARCHBOLD, Actor is a boarder and Sydney H aged 5 is with him.
I can't see Frederick's death in 1908. Do you have the registration details? Of course his surname could be mistranscribed.
Cando
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Wow you are really good at this. I will have to drag all my info together. can't remember where Jessie Holland came from. Stage name maybe.. will get back to you. I know Fredricks first marriage produced a daughter
in Beamish near Durham. I didn't know about the bigamy.
Many thanks
Graham
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Sorry cando. info about freds daughter was wrong. that will teach me to check before I type
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FYI
Births Dec 1874
BURGESS Jessie Edith Pancras 1b/79
Cando
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Hi,
The official Gazette dates for Sydney's WW1 DCM and MM are as follows.
The DCM
The London Gazette, published date 30th August 1918, Supplement 30879, page 10264.
10264, Supplement to the London Gazette, 3rd September 1918.
70119, CPL S.H. Archbold, Tank Corps, (W Ealing)
The MM
The London Gazette, published 28th January 1919, Supplement 31150, page 1449.
Supplement to the London Gazette, 29th January 1919, 1449.
70119, Lance CPL Sidney Herbert Archbold, DCM, 5th Tank Battalion, Tank Corps, (West Ealing. W)
Because the DCM is a conspicuous award one down from the VC for non officers there was a citation added to the Gazette Notice, I can copy this out if you wish or you could go to the LG site and download both notices, search under he service number, 70119 it makes it easier because he is in as SIDNEY Herbert Archbold for the MM and S. H. Archbold for the DCM.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/
Gerry
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many thanks for all the great info.
Graham
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Hi, Sydney Herbert Archbold is my grandfather, he lived with people named Cato before WW1, not sure of the dates but he referred to her as " mother" in letters he wrote from the front.
He married Emily Brown in 1920 and moved to Perth, Australia in 1926 and died in 1962, he had several children.
I too have the marriage cert, etc but have not heard the name Holland before as Burgess is on the M Cert, I have never been able to find Daniel Burgess as a father of a Jessie Edith.
I also have not been able to find out what happened to either Jessie of Frederick so would be great fun for any info.
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Hi
I'm the grandson of Sydney's sister, also called Jessie. Not sure if my Nan ever knew about Sydney.
I think I know more about her than she did. I will get back to you soon, when I have sorted out what I have to tell you.
Which of Sydney's children was your parent?
I never expected to hear from a living relative' I'm so pleased
Regards
Graham
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Hi Graham, likewise, I am stunned, none of us knew Sydney had a sister! I have been researching for years with no luck. I am Betty's daughter.
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Frederick Archbold had another wife in between Mary Jane Stafford and Jessie Holland/Burgess. Frederick married her as Frederick James Thoburn. She was called Jane Louisa Burgess (her stage name was Jennie burgess) they had 2 daughters Maud Archbold Thoburn and Florence Eleanor Thoburn. Maud is my 2nd great grandmother. I have found lots of newspaper article about Fred, Jessie and Jennie If anyone wishes for more information let me know. I Would love to know more about Fred in particular where and where he died if possible .