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Title: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Saturday 03 October 15 12:59 BST (UK)
Robert Hunter Hardie was born in Scotland 1888 married Catherine Jamieson then emigrated in 1923. Worked on the railway in Philadelphia until his death in 1951. He had two children Anna P J Hardie who married someone named Fratz. Alexander D Hardie who married Geneva? Schaefer.
My grandfather was his brother and i am trying to trace the family.

Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 October 15 13:16 BST (UK)
This FIND A GRAVE entry could be Alexander.

Burial Arlington Cemetery  Drexel Hill Delaware County Pennsylvania.
Plot: Hillcrest

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=70418099&ref=acom


Alexander Hardie - 11 August 1916 passed away March 1974 -  SSN issued Pennsylvania (Before 1951)

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 October 15 13:17 BST (UK)
The FIND A GRAVE entry is Geneva, the wife of Alexander - Geneva passed away 4 November 1982

Burial - Arlington Cemetery  Drexel Hill Delaware County Pennsylvania.
Plot: Hillcrest

There is also a Nancy L Hardie passed away 10 April 1951 - perhaps she could belong to the couple ?

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=hardie&GSiman=1&GScid=44323&GRid=70418101&


Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 October 15 13:22 BST (UK)
Anna P. Fratz born 2 January 1915 passed away 5 January 1998 - Last Residence 19021 Croydon, Bucks, Pennsylvania.

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 October 15 13:24 BST (UK)
US Social Security and Claims - Anne Peddie Hardie - (Anna Peddie Fratz) 22 January 1915 Delmuir (probably Dalmuir) Scotland. Father Robert H Hardie Mother Name - Catherine Jamison - passed away 5 January 1998

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 October 15 13:29 BST (UK)
Possibility for husband - William H. Fratz - 4 May 1916 passed away 7 February 1996 - Last Residence 19021 Croydon, Bucks, Pennsylvania.

Social Security Applications and Claims - William Howard Fratz - Father - William Fratz Mother Name Maude Feather.

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 October 15 13:38 BST (UK)
Catherine Jamieson/Hardie passed away 7 February 1947 - Robert was the informant on her death certificate. Burial Sunset Memorial Gardens, Bucks Co.  PA
Roberts informant was Alexander Hardie - burial Sunset Memorial Gardens. Bucks Co. PA.

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Saturday 03 October 15 14:32 BST (UK)
Thanks Sandra,

I have most of the information re the deaths but didn't have the husband of Anna - thanks for that.

Nancy Lynn Hardie was the daughter of Alexander and Geneva - sadly she only lived 10 days. Wonder if they had any more kids?
Wonder if William H Fratz married and had kids? My object is to find any living relatives. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 October 15 15:10 BST (UK)
Its always best to say exactly what you have already found so that we do not waste our time duplicating. RootsChat is a forum for searching for ancestors but hopefully by writing as much about the family as we can, anyone can google and pick up the family name and be directed to this thread.

You have the death dates so could try and email the nearest public libraries to see if there are any obituaries for the family.

http://www.bucksgen.org/index.php/contact-us

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Saturday 03 October 15 15:20 BST (UK)
Point taken Sandra. In fairness you did come back in rapid succession with info. I'm used to waiting sometimes days on other sites! (Meant as a compliment). I will check for obits.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 03 October 15 15:31 BST (UK)
There is the possibility of someone living in the same zip code area 1974 showing up in US public records - Croydon Bucks born 24 December 1953   ???  Just checked William Fratz was also at the same address 1993  ;) Will send you the info by pm in case you can find out any more.

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Saturday 03 October 15 18:35 BST (UK)
Thanks Sandra for the pm - in the Philadelphia phonebook there is a email address for someone with the Fratz surname. I have emailed them and will wait for a reply.  If i have no luck i will write to the address given.  I will let you know what happens. Thanks again. :)

 
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Tuesday 13 October 15 14:21 BST (UK)
Big thanks to *Sandra*,

Sent a letter off to G Fratz with my email details. Had a lovely reply confirming he is the grandson of Robert and Catherine Hardie. His sister has the interest in genealogy and has given me her address. So success all round  ;D
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: Bhardie on Sunday 18 June 23 03:15 BST (UK)
Crayspond - Not sure if you are still active on this site, but I am a part of the Hardie family you are asking about.  My father is the son of Alexander and Geneva, the brother of Nancy Lynn. Would love to connect some more!
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Sunday 17 December 23 11:26 GMT (UK)

Hello Bhardie,
Sorry i missed this message. It would be great to connect with you. Hope to hear from you soon.

Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Sunday 24 December 23 17:38 GMT (UK)
Sorry i missed your message
Crayspond - Not sure if you are still active on this site, but I am a part of the Hardie family you are asking about.  My father is the son of Alexander and Geneva, the brother of Nancy Lynn. Would love to connect some more!
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Saturday 30 December 23 14:08 GMT (UK)
Can you message me please.
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 30 December 23 16:26 GMT (UK)
People have to have at least 2 posts to use the PM system, so Bhardie would need to post here again.
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Sunday 31 December 23 08:52 GMT (UK)
People have to have at least 2 posts to use the PM system, so Bhardie would need to post here again.
Thank shellyesq,
Would the person be notified of these recent posts?
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 31 December 23 11:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,

While you are waiting to make contact - the obituary for GENEVA E. HARDIE turned up.
A few names mentioned in it.
Would this help throw any further light on the person you are searching for I wonder ?


The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 
Sat, 6 Nov 1982 Page 6

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-philadelphia-inquirer/137742621/

Sandra

Added :- Have you got access to ancestry ?  Also sent pm with link to latest address for the son "W" and wife "E""  - hope this helps.

Obit for the mother of spouse of one of the sons.

https://www.huffandlakjer.com/obituary/2149228
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Sunday 31 December 23 12:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandra,
I contacted the sister of G. Fratz as he said she was interested in the family history but is not computer savvy (his words). She never came back to me but apologised through him for not writing and that she had some health issues.
He did say that his mother Anna's brother Alexander Hardie had 3 children but unfortunately they haven't kept in touch. (this fits in with the obituary you kindly found)
I think Bhardie is part of this family. I don't have ancestry at the moment but have been trawling through familysearch.
Alexander and Geneva Schaeffer married in 31 January 1942 in Philadelphia County Pennsylvania. I can't find them in the 1950 census (free on FS) I don't even know if they stayed in Pennsylvania. That's why i was hoping Bhardie would see the post.
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 31 December 23 12:53 GMT (UK)
There was a Geneva Hardie mentioned in a 1950 City Directory - Philadelphia.  4226 Fairhl  ??
2 Alex Hardie but not at that address -


4226 Fairhill Street. Philadelphia was on the WW2 Draft Card for young men for Alexander Duncan Hardie

Happy New Year
Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Sunday 31 December 23 18:20 GMT (UK)
Just noticed this obituary - i didn't see it on my phone earlier. That's a great help thanks. A big family!

Added :- Have you got access to ancestry ?  Also sent pm with link to latest address for the son "W" and wife "E""  - hope this helps.

Obit for the mother of spouse of one of the sons.

https://www.huffandlakjer.com/obituary/2149228
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 03 January 24 10:40 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the message. Will send pm with further info (living people)

https://fitzgeraldsommerfuneralhome.com/tribute/details/442/Norma-Rice/obituary.html

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: crayspond on Wednesday 10 January 24 16:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone,

Just to say i have made contact with Bhardie. Thanks again to RootsChat.

Ailsa
Title: Re: Robert Hunter Hardie settled in Pennsylvania. Fratz Schaefer.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 10 January 24 19:02 GMT (UK)

Many thanks for your message. Delighted that it all worked out.

Regards
Sandra