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Title: im in a muddle
Post by: undautri on Thursday 01 October 15 20:49 BST (UK)
can anyone tell me if misterton , somerset is the same as mosterton dorset ?
Im researching my ggg grandfather -
Amos collins born c. 1829 misterton somerset
father william collins
i cant find any baptisms and the only sign of him in the 1841 census is in mosterton  dorset living with  richard collins plus others all born in dorset but richard is only 10 years older than him
thanks for any help
xkath
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: groom on Thursday 01 October 15 20:57 BST (UK)
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can anyone tell me if misterton , somerset is the same as mosterton dorset ?

According to Google they are two different places but only about 2 miles apart.
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: heywood on Thursday 01 October 15 21:11 BST (UK)
Hello,

1841 shows that Amos and Abi, 10 yrs are 'not born in County' unlike the others.

Heywood
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: heywood on Thursday 01 October 15 21:15 BST (UK)
Abi's marriage in 1855, in Bradpole,  shows her father to be William and Amos is a witness.

It looks as though you have the right one in 1841.
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: undautri on Thursday 01 October 15 21:45 BST (UK)
thank you very much -i was getting confused i also have him in 1851 as a boarder born in mickleton , somerset
so i can safely assume that these are his siblings and something has happened to their parents
thanks
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: undautri on Thursday 01 October 15 21:47 BST (UK)
heywood - does the marriage show william as deceased ?
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: heywood on Thursday 01 October 15 21:54 BST (UK)
heywood - does the marriage show william as deceased ?

No it doesn't show deceased but that often happens.
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: undautri on Friday 02 October 15 11:07 BST (UK)
Thank you very much
x kath
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: undautri on Monday 05 October 15 17:58 BST (UK)
Can i ask follow up questions on this post or do i need to open a new post?
ive hit a problem researching the children listed in the 1841 census mentioned above
heres where im at
- marriage William Collins to Anne Hyde 1813 loders Dorset
1815 birth Richard Collins  loders dorset
1818 birth Susanna collins beaminster dorset
1822 birth Levi Collins loders dorset
1824 birth Ellen hyde collins dorset
1828 birth AMOS collins misterton Somerset
1831 birth Abi Collins misterton somerset
they all seem to be siblings but no sign of parents with them in 1841-amos was a witness at abis marriage and in 1851 abi is living with her sister ellen who had married
all was fitting together really smoothly until i looked at ellens birth which showed her mother as Sarah -the others before and after are ann
i wondered if there had been 3 wives but cant find any records death or marriage to confim this
the only other thing i can think is that i have the wrong record for ellen  but it seems a heck of a coincidence for her middle name to be hyde -annes surname - and my great grandfather had hyde as a middle name as did my uncle
my gg grandfather is AMOS so i need to know if his mum was ann hyde or another ann
thanks for any help
x kath
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: heywood on Monday 05 October 15 18:16 BST (UK)
It could be just an error in transcription or the person who recorded it.
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 05 October 15 19:04 BST (UK)
You may have these details already but have posted just in case

Not sure if this is going to help any there are these baptisms but Ellen's mother's name given as Sarah  ???

Richard Collins Baptism Date:   13 Feb 1815 Loders, Dorset, England
Father: William Collins occ Lab. Mother: Anne

Susanna Collins Baptism Date: 25 Oct 1818 Beaminster, Dorset, England
Father: William Collins occ Gardener Mother: Ann

28 Aug 1842 Netherbury, Dorset, England
Susanna Collins age 23 (1815) Father: William Collins occ Lab.
Isaac Turner cc Lab. Age:   21 Father: Samuel Turner occ Lab.
Witnessed by Levi Collins & Maria Allen (x)

Levi Collins Baptism Date: 24 Mar 1822 Loders, Dorset, England
Father: William Collins occ Lab. Mother: Ann

Levi Collins married Melplash 6 Feb 1849 Maria Collins f James Gardener
His father William occ Gardener wits Richard Parson (x) & Rebecca Barret (x)

Ellen Hyde Collins Baptism Date:   26 Dec 1824 Mosterton, Dorset, England
Father: William Collins occ Lab. Mother: Sarah

Ellen Collins (x) married Bradpole 18 Nov 1845 Richard Parsons fath John
Her father Willm occ Gardener Wits David ? (x) & Robt Hile

Amos COLLINS 1828 bapt St Leonard Misterton Somerset
father William occ Lab. mother Ann
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01g9b/

Amos Collins also married in Netherbury 30/3/56 to Ann Fowler, f Thomas lab.
His father William occ Gardener Wits Lara Laddeon & Ellen Marsh

Couldn't see bapt. for Abi, on her marrriage cert. father William's occ Gardener







Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: undautri on Monday 05 October 15 20:04 BST (UK)
thank you very much both
thats the only baptism record that i can find for ellen  :(
 i had wondered if ellen was a cousin but the 1851 census states abi collins as sister of ellen parsons
if i could find a burial for ann/e collins in dorset or misterton between 1831 and 1841i would accept that amos mother was ann hyde
x kath
 
Title: Re: im in a muddle
Post by: undautri on Tuesday 06 October 15 00:27 BST (UK)
i think ive found her -
burial 2/12/1840 Mosterton ...which is where the children were in 1841
aged 48 so born 1792

birth 1792 walditch dorset  anne hyde to william hyde and sarah

marriage of william hide of walditch  and sarah travers loders dorset 1789

william collins married anne hyde in loders  dorset

can anyone see a flaw in this ?
thanks
kath