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Title: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: mrallen on Sunday 20 September 15 11:04 BST (UK)
Hi
I was wondering if anyone has any information/history of the Black Horse in Yorke Street. I have discovered that my great grandfather, James Allen and his wife Isabella Milne/Allen were the landlords for a time between the wars.
Thanks
Steve
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: tina morana on Sunday 20 September 15 12:05 BST (UK)
Hi Steve, Anc have a will for Isabella Allen 11 Yorke St Wrexham wife of James Allen. She died 22 May 1933 and left her money to Janet Evelyn McDowell spinster and William Williams cabinet maker.
323 pounds.
I hope this is of some help.
Tina M
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: mrallen on Sunday 20 September 15 13:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Tina
That's interesting. Isabella's maiden name was McDowell. So Janet must be  her sister. What is your interest in Isabella? Are you related?
Steve
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: tina morana on Monday 21 September 15 10:48 BST (UK)
Not related at all Steve, just enjoy helping out when possible.
Tina
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: mrallen on Monday 21 September 15 14:02 BST (UK)
That's a pity I'm always looking to share stuff. Thanks again. I think I might contact the Wrexham archives or arrange a trip there one day.
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: MikeDavies38 on Tuesday 22 September 15 19:17 BST (UK)
The Black Horse was once known as The Old Hop Pole.  I don't know when it changed its name.
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: mrallen on Tuesday 22 September 15 20:13 BST (UK)
Thanks Mike.
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: MikeDavies38 on Wednesday 23 September 15 16:46 BST (UK)
Just found out the pub was originally on the other side of  Yorke Street and was called the Hop Pole Inn and originally was a town house belonging to the Puleston family of Hafod y Wern .  The original pub was also called the Old Black Horse and the Royal Ship. It moved across the road after 1836 and became the Black Horse in it's present position.  All the buildings on the other side of the road were demolished in the 1970's I think.
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: mrallen on Wednesday 23 September 15 18:23 BST (UK)
I have this photo taken about 1925 which is probably about the time my great grandfather was there.
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: MikeDavies38 on Wednesday 23 September 15 19:27 BST (UK)
You can see from the photo where the Black Horse used to be across the road.
Title: Re: Black Horse Pub, Yorke Street, Wrexham
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 24 September 15 09:18 BST (UK)
BLACK HORSE (previously HOP POLE)
(renamed ROYAL SHIP) Yorke Street
John Davies (Pigot 1828/29)
John Davies (Pigot 1830)
John Davies (Pigot 1835)
Stephen Davies (Pigot 1844)
John Roscoe (Slater 1868)
James Smith (Slater 1880)
Mary Owens (Slater 1895)
Closed. Demolished

http://www.clwydfhs.org.uk/miscellanea/wrexhaminns.htm