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Title: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: 100%Gog on Friday 18 September 15 18:08 BST (UK): I have a reasonable size public family tree on Ancestry with photos, records and information. I am happy for people to view and copy items from my tree and I do the same on other public trees, that is why so many of us go public on Ancestry. We all help each other and you never know you may get a link with family you never knew existed.

What does tick me off though is recently I am being trawled a lot for my photos and copies of old documents etc. by members who keep their own personal trees private. I have in the past sent messages to these privateers to see why they are interested in something from my tree just in case there is a connection but in most cases I get no reply.

If they want to keep their information to themselves then that is their business but if they do copy from public trees at least have the decency to send a quick note saying thank you.

100%Gog
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 18 September 15 18:12 BST (UK): Have you read some of the earlier threads about trees on ancestry

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=657263.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=722517.0

Sandra
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: 100%Gog on Friday 18 September 15 18:33 BST (UK): Thanks for the links Sandra, some interesting observations and comments.

Maybe I need to keep my cards or photos and documents in my case :), closer to my chest.

100%Gog
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: newmodernist on Friday 18 September 15 18:37 BST (UK): Aw, that drives me nuts! I've scanned thousands of photos and nothing makes me more sad than finding a picture on ancestry of a close relative that I've never seen, but their tree is on private, and they don't respond to messages. I'll admit I have private trees (mostly because information on their I believe is wrong and I don't want other poor people copying it!) but if someone emailed me to ask for a photo I'd be all over it.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Jool on Friday 18 September 15 19:13 BST (UK): There are some very selfish people around I'm afraid. I have a private tree on Ancestry and always respond to any enquiries and offer the information I have. I wouldn't dream of copying a photo from a public tree without first contacting the owner to ask if it is OK and offer to share what I have. I don't think it's fair to take from their public tree then keep my private tree to myself.

I think these selfish people just want to cram their tree full of whatever they can lay their hands on without entering into the sharing spirit of true family historians. I keep my tree private to prevent these people from taking things without making contact first. I they can't be bothered to make contact then they are not really that interested.

A while ago I visited a graveyard and took some photos of family graves. Whilst there I noticed a grave with my family surname but I couldn't connect it with my family, but I took a photo anyway to investigate further. I still haven't been able to tie him to my family but I noticed an Ancestry member had him in their tree. This person lives in another country so it's extremely unlikely that they would be able to take a photo for themselves so I sent them a message offering to send them a copy of the photo, but have had no response whatsoever (they are still active on Ancestry).
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: lizdb on Friday 18 September 15 19:39 BST (UK): I think it is just a case of - if you make your tree public then it is just that, free for anyone to see. There are no restrictions, no rules that if you see my tree I have to see yours. If you dont want all and sundry to see your tree, then dont make it public. Personally I wouldnt put mine on the net at all!
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 18 September 15 19:45 BST (UK): Exactly right Lizdb. You can always alter those tree settings - make your tree "Private" so that it can't be viewed as a Public Member Tree. Even if you don't share your tree, other members can still learn if a specific deceased individual is in your tree, in addition to the birth year and birthplace of the person and your username (but no personal information about you).
They can then contact you anonymously through the Connection Service on Ancestry sites to request more information.
For a more drastic measure - the little box within the private tree information section - also prevents your tree from being found in the search index. So if you just want somewhere to keep your tree record, I suppose that is another option.

Sandra
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: sandiep on Friday 18 September 15 20:01 BST (UK): my tree is private but not because I wont share Iin fact most of my photos etc are available on public trees because I have shared them ...........I usually talk to owner before copying to see what relation we are and then I can share info...................what you have to remember is that when you have a public tree on Ancestry if there is a connection even to a private tree it will come up in the Hints and so it isn't that the person with the private tree has just taken your photos etc but been offered them by Ancestry themselves.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: 100%Gog on Friday 18 September 15 20:13 BST (UK): Quote from: lizdb on Friday 18 September 15 19:39 BST (UK)
I think it is just a case of - if you make your tree public then it is just that, free for anyone to see. There are no restrictions, no rules that if you see my tree I have to see yours. If you dont want all and sundry to see your tree, then dont make it public. Personally I wouldnt put mine on the net at all!

Valid comments lizdb, I agree with what you say. At the end of the day a public tree is open to all. I think its time to rethink my strategy.

Sandra....I think I will go private but I'll give the little tick box a miss.

Thanks for the comments and advice.

100%Gog
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: suek2075 on Friday 18 September 15 20:16 BST (UK): I don't know how true this is but I was told that anything you put into Ancestry becomes the property of Ancestry, which is why you can't delete old trees. This may be incorrect, but as I was told the same about Facebook I think it may be true.

Therefore even if you keep your trees private the information is available to Ancestry to share.

Happy to stand corrected if anyone knows different.

Sue
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: 100%Gog on Friday 18 September 15 20:29 BST (UK): Quote from: sandiep on Friday 18 September 15 20:01 BST (UK)
my tree is private but not because I wont share Iin fact most of my photos etc are available on public trees because I have shared them ...........I usually talk to owner before copying to see what relation we are and then I can share info...................what you have to remember is that when you have a public tree on Ancestry if there is a connection even to a private tree it will come up in the Hints and so it isn't that the person with the private tree has just taken your photos etc but been offered them by Ancestry themselves.

To be honest my gripe is not so much the photos are copied its that I receive no acknowledgement or interaction from these people. I think its more of a courtesy thing really.

Private it is then!

Thanks
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: 100%Gog on Friday 18 September 15 20:38 BST (UK): Quote from: suek2075 on Friday 18 September 15 20:16 BST (UK)
I don't know how true this is but I was told that anything you put into Ancestry becomes the property of Ancestry, which is why you can't delete old trees. This may be incorrect, but as I was told the same about Facebook I think it may be true.

Therefore even if you keep your trees private the information is available to Ancestry to share.

Happy to stand corrected if anyone knows different.

Sue

I read something about that in the links Sandra's sent earlier.

The strange thing is though in this day and age, we get told to protect our personal information and identities yet we all present to the world and his mate up to 300 years or more of our family history :)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Jool on Friday 18 September 15 20:43 BST (UK): 100%Gog, if you choose to go private you could always put a comment on your profile page stating that you are happy to share with people who make contact with you.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: msr on Friday 18 September 15 21:04 BST (UK): I'm not sure about this so am asking. How do you know that you're being 'trawled' by private tree owners?
Is it a case of being notified that X has added an image to their tree? But how many offenders have there been, and have you corresponded with any of them to your satisfaction?

I would never dream of copying a photo or any certificates uploaded to someone's tree. If I thought there may be a connection to my ancestors, or to me, I would send a message. Sometimes messages are responded to, other times not, but I always answer those sent to me.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: pinefamily on Saturday 19 September 15 00:52 BST (UK): As shown in the links above, this topic rears its head periodically on Rootschat. Ancestry, as well as many other family history sites (paid or free), are prone to being used by "name collectors", or by people too lazy to do their own research.
Just as several others have said, I do not put my data up (any more) for public view. Many years ago, I submitted a tree on Rootsweb; this info has now found its way into a myriad of other trees, and when I have tried to contact these people to find connections, I have received no response.
I do have a tree online, but on a site with a password protection.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Saturday 19 September 15 09:53 BST (UK): I sent for a cert for who I had hoped was a member of my lot... But it wasn't, it was his very distant distant cousin.. So I filed it -- Then trawled the trees on Ancestry to see if anyone was researching him..... Found someone who was and offered to send them a copy or even the original if they wanted.. GUESS WHAT that was over 2 months ago and NO response.

you can but try :)

xin
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Saturday 19 September 15 09:56 BST (UK): In the early days (definitely NOT now) Didn't GR have a better way of dealing with Contacting other members and viewing their trees...
Whereby you made contact with a member and they actually gave you permission to view their tree.

They did RESPOND -then though, maybe people are wiser and less quick to respond these days - after having been caught out by nasty little hidden spiders in the web.

xin
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Rena on Saturday 19 September 15 10:50 BST (UK): If anyone tries to contact me via my tree I'm afraid they won't get an answer as I haven't been able to access it myself for several years since A--y changed the format. I probably could if I'd paid subscriptions but as I'd more or less finished researching my English branches and their records weren't what I needed, I decided not to.

I also had my Scottish branch on gencircles which was free to see for anyone who needed the information but since that website was taken over the tree is not accessible to the public and I've lost track of it, thus won't be able to answer anyone who tries to make contact. However, I saw somebody on geni had started on one of my Scottish Clan lines that I hadn't published so I specially joined to contact her and now her tree has the additional info plus images as backup due to there not being any official bmd's

As for my tree on GR I always respond to people who request information but I can't accept their invitations to view their trees because I'm not now a paid up member.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: jess5athome on Saturday 19 September 15 11:28 BST (UK): Hi 100%Gog, There will always be givers and takers in this world and as my Grandmother used to say "There's nowt as queer as Folk", I fully sympathise with you as it happens all to often.

To me there is no excuse for bad manners, they cost nothing, I am in the "Private" tree camp but I always respond to requests for information and help where I can, I have in the past seen a connection on Ancestry with a photograph or two and have always sent a message to the tree owner asking for permission to have a copy but only after I have explained my connection to them and offered them the chance to view my tree or ask for any information they may need.

On another note, I asked a member if they were connected to my tree as they added a record to theirs and they were indeed part of my family all be it to my Great aunts side, I offered the person copy's of photographs and certs that I had but have heard absolutely nothing back and I know they have been logged onto Ancestry on a regular basis since :-\

Like I said "Nowt as Queer as Folk" ;)

Frank.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: q98 on Saturday 19 September 15 12:23 BST (UK): The practice of "purloining" research data, photographs, documentation, etc; irks me immensely. Most, not all, family historians are not (errr, how do I put this?) youngsters and were raised with "Please" and "Thank You".

Is it too sweeping a statement to state common courtesy appears to fly out the window when they locate data they did not have?

I have, in my possession, parchment documentation which will never be put on the web. I am in the process of making frames to house and protect them.

q98
Fremantle
Western Australia
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: mike175 on Saturday 19 September 15 17:59 BST (UK): I usually avoid publishing online anything I don't want the World to see because, whatever the legal position, anything displayed on the Web is effectively in the public domain, available for anyone to download, copy and share.

What I found more annoying was when I shared a copy of a family document with an individual directly, only to find it included on several Ancestry public trees a few months later >:(

I'm sure it was just thoughtlessness in this case, but I would never publish someone else's documents without asking their permission first.

Mike.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: groom on Saturday 19 September 15 18:10 BST (UK): Quote
What I found more annoying was when I shared a copy of a family document with an individual directly, only to find it included on several Ancestry public trees a few months later

I think that is the main problem, once you've shared something, you then have no control over it especally if it is then put on to a public tree. If there is something you don't want made public, I'm afraid the only option is not to share it at all.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: pinefamily on Saturday 19 September 15 21:51 BST (UK): I think someone raised this earlier in this thread, but is it true that once you upload information to Ancestry it becomes their intellectual property?
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: sandiep on Saturday 19 September 15 23:18 BST (UK): perhaps this will answer your question

Subject to these Terms and restrictions on data processing in our Website Privacy Statement, as amended from time to time, you grant Ancestry and its Group Companies a non-exclusive, transferable, sublicenseable, world-wide, royalty-free license for the maximum amount of time permitted by applicable law to host, store, copy, publish, distribute, provide access to and otherwise use User Provided Content uploaded or otherwise submitted by you to the Website, including, hosting and access on co-branded services of that material, and to use the data contained in that User Provided Content as search results and to integrate that data into the Service as Ancestry or its Group Companies deems appropriate on or through any media or medium and with any technology or devices now known or hereafter developed or discovered. This license continues even if you stop using the Websites or the Services. Ancestry may scan, image and/or create an index from the User Provided Content you submit. In this situation, you grant Ancestry and its Group Companies a license to the User Provided Content as described above and Ancestry will own the digital version of documents created by Ancestry as well as any indexed information that Ancestry creates. Except for the rights granted in this Agreement, Ancestry acquires no title or ownership rights in or to any User Provided Content you submit and nothing in this Agreement conveys any ownership rights in such User Provided Content on the Website.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: pinefamily on Saturday 19 September 15 23:21 BST (UK): So that's a yes then (?).
I hate legal jargon. :)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: findem on Sunday 20 September 15 03:03 BST (UK): Having read the posts on this topic both on RootsChat and other sites, I'm glad I made the decision to not put a tree on Ancestry, I do have a partial tree on GenesReunited which will give anyone I allow to view it an idea of my lines.

I have had a very poor response from both Public and Private Tree owners on Ancestry, the six messages I sent over the last two months remain unanswered, when I sent the messages the tree owners had all been on Ancestry within the previous three months. With one of them it's a shame she didn't reply because she has the wrong husband of one of my female ancestors, I would have gladly helped her. I do know my version is correct because I have the couple's marriage certificate plus the certificate for one of their children, who is also my ancestor, it gives of course parent names and the mother's maiden name. :(
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: q98 on Sunday 20 September 15 11:20 BST (UK): Hi findem
By not answering, the error/s compound/s or the brick wall is hit - THEIR loss, NO sympathy!

q98
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: findem on Tuesday 22 September 15 02:01 BST (UK): Hi q98,

You're so right.

It goes against the grain to not help someone when I can but rudeness also goes against the grain.

What struck me as odd was that when I did a search of Public Trees on that particular ancestor on Ancestry it brought up not only the incorrect one but several correct entries. I would have thought the person with the incorrect version would have spotted them and wondered why she was the odd one out, perhaps had I corrected her she wouldn't have taken any notice. As they say up north in England "there's nowt so queer as folk". :)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: groom on Tuesday 22 September 15 09:39 BST (UK): There is also the chance that they don't answer because they can't!

I "met" a distant relation through Ancestry and we became good friends. Whilst working on a mutual branch of our tree, she found what, at the time, looked the correct people emigrating to America and having children, so we added them to the tree.

Sadly, she died 5 years ago, but her tree remained on Ancestry for all to see. A couple of years ago, with new information on line, I discovered without any doubt that the information we'd added wasn't right, so changed my tree. Hers of course remains the same and I often get hints referring me to it and the wrong information.

I realise that you can check when a person was last on line, but that isn't always correct, as when I checked hers it did say within the last year, which wasn't right. So, there may be reasons why people don't respond!
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Tuesday 22 September 15 14:45 BST (UK): I just got a response, that totally put me off responding...

'ok what do you want to know'!!!

I had asked if we could share notes etc... politely with a please and a thank you and if you don't mind...
to get a downright rude, sharp response like that... was ignorant..

Or is it just me .... I did reply nicely - so we will see.

short shrift as my Mom would say. :)

xin ;D >:( ;) :D
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: msr on Tuesday 22 September 15 15:07 BST (UK): Not sure about that Xin, short it may have been but not necessarily rude.

Although I may have preferred a longer message it could be taken that they were open to getting down to brass tacks straight away, and rather than relating a load of information that you already may have, they are awaiting your first question about a particular person.

Susan
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: msr on Tuesday 22 September 15 15:19 BST (UK): I have sent 3 messages today, well 4 if you count 2 to one person.

I shall wait to see if I receive any responses. The person to whom I have sent 2 messages had asked me about his gt gt aunt by marriage, my 3rd cousin x2. Sadly I had little information since the 1911, but he has prompted me to have another look.

The other 2 people have no connection to me at all (unless by some quirk of fate something turns up). A grave newly uncovered by a cemetery cleanup team led me to try to find information about the interred, and they were found in at least 2 trees - with photos! So naturally I contacted the tree owners hoping that we can help them with location, photo of grave, and details of burials, and if they are prepared to let the team have a photo of the people to match to the grave, so much the better.
As I've mentioned in previous threads, I never just take a photo, and so it should be, respect always.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Tuesday 22 September 15 15:20 BST (UK): Thanks Susan,
Now there you go, my OH tells me I am going through a bad phase --- will have to pull my socks up and think things through a little more. Try and re-kindle the old xin sweet and kind and good :)

Luckily as I say, I did reply in a positive and polite way
tg.

(maybe its the pills I am taking :) or not taking :) :) :) )
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: 3sillydogs on Tuesday 22 September 15 17:45 BST (UK): I have kept my tree Private, but will answer a query if I receive one. The fun of research is to find yourself and to help where you can. It is just not right to pass of another's work as your own, if you use it acknowledge where you got it from on your tree and try to thank them.

On another note I have left a list of places where I have trees and the passwords etc and once I am no longer here my family can decide whether to remove them or not

I
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Rena on Tuesday 22 September 15 23:25 BST (UK): Quote from: xinia on Tuesday 22 September 15 14:45 BST (UK)
I just got a response, that totally put me off responding...

'ok what do you want to know'!!!

I had asked if we could share notes etc... politely with a please and a thank you and if you don't mind...
to get a downright rude, sharp response like that... was ignorant..

Or is it just me .... I did reply nicely - so we will see.
short shrift as my Mom would say. :)

xin ;D >:( ;) :D

I was wondering if the person was away from a computer and was responding via a cell phone thingy that only allows a certain amount of characters.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: findem on Wednesday 23 September 15 00:26 BST (UK): Quote from: xinia on Tuesday 22 September 15 14:45 BST (UK)
I just got a response, that totally put me off responding...

'ok what do you want to know'!!!

At least you got a response! ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: jaybelnz on Wednesday 23 September 15 00:36 BST (UK): ...I actually tend to think that's quite an enthusiastic response really! A "wow - let's get on with it" kinda thing! An invitation to ask your questions??

Sort of response you might get from a Kiwi, or Aussie, - as a Kiwi I can see myself sending such a message! On receiving it, I would probably be thinking -" YES - we're off"! And with a few fist pumps thrown in!!

Jeanne
:) :)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 23 September 15 01:12 BST (UK): Quote from: jaybelnz on Wednesday 23 September 15 00:36 BST (UK)

Sort of response you might get from a Kiwi, or Aussie, - as a Kiwi I can see myself sending such a message! On receiving it, I would probably be thinking -" YES - we're off"! And with a few fist pumps thrown in!!

Jeanne
:) :)

Exactly ....it is a response I have used, and no-one I know has found it offensive ....and I have had it used to me ... The worse I have had said to me was "Give me all you have, otherwise I will visit your relations and get it off them"

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: jaybelnz on Wednesday 23 September 15 03:28 BST (UK): ;D. KHP, Sounds like you might have been talking to Dick Turpin!!😄😄

Jeanne
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: weste on Wednesday 23 September 15 10:51 BST (UK): I can identify with the short reply because last Christmas someone contacted me for details of a relative , a wedding I think and I gave them the info and they replied saying how do you know that. Well I given info from parish records. I think what they meant was have you got any cents. So I did n't get back. I 've thought that reply may have been how they were. I will at some point send them a copy when I decide to print it off but you have to be choosy how many you print off at the archives at 60p a copy. Although a lot cheaper than a cert from the gro! This guy was an Aussie or a kiwi. Although I have Aussie and kiwi relatives and they don't come across like that. I suspect he's a lot younger than my more direct relatives.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: jaybelnz on Wednesday 23 September 15 11:02 BST (UK): To save yourself some money, and postage too, you could just email them a copy - when you're ready to of course ;)

Jeanne 😄
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: suek2075 on Wednesday 23 September 15 12:55 BST (UK): Or he may be one of the jaded souls who gets hit on a lot for information and never gets anything in return, but is too kind to ignore someone.

He (or she!) may warm up once they know you're willing to exchange info rather than just gather it in.

Sue
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Beeonthebay on Wednesday 23 September 15 12:59 BST (UK): Quote from: pinefamily on Saturday 19 September 15 00:52 BST (UK)
As shown in the links above, this topic rears its head periodically on Rootschat. Ancestry, as well as many other family history sites (paid or free), are prone to being used by "name collectors", or by people too lazy to do their own research.
Just as several others have said, I do not put my data up (any more) for public view. Many years ago, I submitted a tree on Rootsweb; this info has now found its way into a myriad of other trees, and when I have tried to contact these people to find connections, I have received no response.
I do have a tree online, but on a site with a password protection.

I think Rootsweb is affiliated with Ancestry. Quite recently I asked Ancestry to remove a tree from Rootsweb as it had lots of personal information from when I was foolish and naive many years ago not realising all this stuff would be freely available one day by Googling a name. This was in the days when it was more of a sharing community of family historian's rather than the snatch and grab brigade of today.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: msr on Wednesday 23 September 15 23:12 BST (UK): Messages sent yesterday all replied to, in the nicest way too.

Restores your faith, doesn't it? :)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: findem on Thursday 24 September 15 02:33 BST (UK): Quote from: xinia on Tuesday 22 September 15 14:45 BST (UK)
I just got a response, that totally put me off responding...

'ok what do you want to know'!!!

I had asked if we could share notes etc... politely with a please and a thank you and if you don't mind...
to get a downright rude, sharp response like that... was ignorant..

Or is it just me .... I did reply nicely - so we will see.

short shrift as my Mom would say. :)

xin ;D >:( ;) :D

I think the problem is that when comments like that in print are read, those reading it can't know how it was meant. Spoken, a comment like that can express many things such as a suspicious or cautious questioning remark to an enthusiastic excited 'ok what do you want to know'.

Probably best in those situations to give people the benefit of doubt.

One of things that struck me first when I emigrated out here to Australia from England was how 'laid back' people were and quite frankly I enjoyed that attitude, so perhaps the person who made that remark was just being very 'laid back'. : 8) :)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Thursday 24 September 15 10:33 BST (UK): OK - I get it - I am a miserable - short tempered - quick to jump - lack all understanding ... Old lady - and that's me being polite...

I didn't mean to cause such a 'Ruck'

:'( :-\ :-X :-[ ::) ??? ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :'(

xin
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: pinefamily on Thursday 24 September 15 10:40 BST (UK): Xin,
You are not any of the above (in my experience anyway). Personally I would have reacted the same probably. It's the danger of the written word. So many interpretations, so few bullets (just joking ;D ).
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: msr on Thursday 24 September 15 10:45 BST (UK): Quote from: xinia on Thursday 24 September 15 10:33 BST (UK)
OK - I get it - I am a miserable - short tempered - quick to jump - lack all understanding ... Old lady - and that's me being polite...

I didn't mean to cause such a 'Ruck'

:'( :-\ :-X :-[ ::) ??? ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :'(

xin

You could be describing me there Xin - on a good day! ;)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: jaybelnz on Thursday 24 September 15 10:55 BST (UK): Not at all xin! I don't think you're any of those things, and sure nobody else does either! Nor do I see any indication of you causing a ruck, replies have been just an interesting few possible explanations of how we can all get hold of the wrong end of the stick sometimes!

Please don't beat yourself up about it - nothing to beat yourself up about - of course you're none of those things that you call yourself, except polite!! ;D

Take Care
Jeanne :)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Thursday 24 September 15 15:21 BST (UK): Thank you :)

I suppose its like my OH saying he is 'deaf without his glasses on'

:) need to see the emotion/ feeling behind the words..

:) :)
xin
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: weste on Friday 25 September 15 07:26 BST (UK): Stop bashing yourself again Xin.
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: jaybelnz on Friday 25 September 15 10:01 BST (UK): How about a global song for Xin - ready??

GO. - "For she's a jolly good fellow
For she's a jolly good fellow
For she's a jolly good fellow
And so say all of us!!

Hip hip Hooray 💐
Hip hip Hooray 🌺🌺
HIP HIP HOOOOORAYYYYYY! 🌹🌹🌹

May the road rise up to meet you
May the wind be always at your back
May the sun shine warm upon your face
And may the rain fall softly on your fields!
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: anne_p on Friday 25 September 15 10:11 BST (UK): My tree on Ancestry is private as it contains hundreds of photographs and documents.

Here is a suggestion as it's what I do

Make your documented tree private
Export a gedcom from it and upload as public.
This way, all the info is retained but the photos and documents are not.
Update both trees if you can or export a fresh gedcom every now and again and upload it fresh
Wait for it to be found on a search and delete it's predecessor
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 25 September 15 11:23 BST (UK): Bless you all xxx

I will try to behave and not feel so ... 'mardy'

thank you

xin
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 25 September 15 11:25 BST (UK): Wow Anne_p that is well and truly organised..

Good for you :)

xin
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: findem on Saturday 26 September 15 01:56 BST (UK): Quote from: jaybelnz on Friday 25 September 15 10:01 BST (UK)
How about a global song for Xin - ready??

GO. - "For she's a jolly good fellow
For she's a jolly good fellow
For she's a jolly good fellow
And so say all of us!!

Hip hip Hooray 💐
Hip hip Hooray 🌺🌺
HIP HIP HOOOOORAYYYYYY! 🌹🌹🌹

May the road rise up to meet you
May the wind be always at your back
May the sun shine warm upon your face
And may the rain fall softly on your fields!

Seconded.

I didn't join in the singing, wrong time zone and my singing has been known to clear rooms! :( ;D

Don't rule out misbehaving altogether Xin, it can be fun. :)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Saturday 26 September 15 22:03 BST (UK): xxx findem thank you one and all :)
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: pinefamily on Saturday 26 September 15 23:18 BST (UK): See Xinia? It's not you, it's the rest of the world, lol. Outside of Rootschat of course!
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Sunday 27 September 15 17:23 BST (UK): Question ??

What's the best site on the Net

give me an r - give me an o and another o then a t finish with an s that's it done now what do we See

Who doesn't know the answer

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

xin
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: pinefamily on Monday 28 September 15 09:03 BST (UK): Can I phone a friend, or is it multiple choice?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members
Post by: Finley 1 on Monday 28 September 15 09:51 BST (UK): ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

xin

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