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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: marymog on Monday 07 September 15 16:17 BST (UK)
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hi All
I have this photo, and two candidates
1) WW2 royal navy
2) 1965 ish merchant navy
anyone got a good idea which one it could be.?? I appreciate any answers
mm
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Royal Navy
Look at the ribbon on his cap. It looks like HMS
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Royal Navy
Look at the ribbon on his cap. It looks like HMS
would HMS make him Royal Navy or Merchant? I know simply nothing about sailors.
thanks for reply
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During the WW2, HMS stood for HIS Majesty's Ship. But when there is a Queen it is HER Majesty's Ship.
Some of the Naval members on here may even be able to recognise the background.
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During the WW2, HMS stood for HIS Majesty's Ship. But when there is a Queen it is HER Majesty's Ship.
Some of the Naval members on here may even be able to recognise the background.
The background will help alot, is it a backdrop do you think , or a sloping sea wall.?
tks mm
Does the His or Her majesty mean Royal Navy then?? penny just dropped.
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Certainly Royal Navy and it looks like it was taken in Malta to me.
Jebber
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Certainly Royal Navy and it looks like it was taken in Malta to me.
Jebber
tks Jebber
So in the ww2 when they werent allowed to have a ships name, did they just have HMS then, I suppose Malta was a place where they were at war then, or stationed.
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Malta was a major Naval base, it was home to the British Mediterranean Fleet.
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Malta suffered from heavy bombing during WW2 as it was so close to Italy, and it played a key part in attacking Axis powers supplies to North Africa.
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Thank you Jebba and Scouseboy. I now feel confident enough to place him in WW2. probably standing on a vessel which was moored in Malta at the time of the photo, hence the crooked land line.
cheers
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It has changed a lot since your photo was taken, and since I lived there, but I think you man was on board ship roughly where the ship is in this picture.
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Malta suffered from heavy bombing during WW2 as it was so close to Italy, and it played a key part in attacking Axis powers supplies to North Africa.
That is why the Island was awarded the George Cross.
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Thanks Jebber
it does look the same, thanks for taking so much time to help me, and this really has helped, its awful to have a piccy and not understand it. I found the background weird, so I thought it was a photographers backdrop in a studio, but now I see its Valetta. I really appreciate your help and expertise
regards mm
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Your man is definately Royal Navy, (note the untrimmed beard, trimming was not permitted) Second World War, photo taken in Grand Harbour probably during Mediterranean winter as, in summer, he would have been wearing white tropical rig. During wartime, only cap-tallies (a band of cloth around the cap base) displaying "HMS" were worn; the vessels' name was not woven into the cap-tally so as to deny the enemy ANY intelligence if sunk and captured, etc.
Q98
Fremantle
Western Australia
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Thank you for your reply Q98. Its a shame the records aren't online like with WW1.
Cheers
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On his left arm note the absence of a "killick" anchor (denotes a Leading Seaman or equivalent rank depending on Branch [i.e. Gunnery, Seaman, Signals, etc]) and any Good Conduct stripes, one of which is awarded for each 4 years of "undetected crime", to a maximum of 3 stripes (representing 12 years Good Conduct).
Therefore, we can assume your man was:
a. An Ordinary or Able Seaman equivalent rank
b. His length of service, at the time of the photograph, was less than 4 years.
Do you have any indication of his name, Service Number, Branch, etc?
Q98
Fremantle
Western Australia
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That is very interesting, do you mind if I send you a PM?
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Please do but understand I'm not a military expert although I served for 25 years; 5 years in the Royal Navy (UK) and 20 years in the Royal Australian Air Force.
Jim