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Title: thomas john brown
Post by: Browny2004 on Tuesday 01 September 15 23:56 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,
im trying to trace the birth of my great great grandfather Thomas John Brown. According to the 1901 census he was born in badbury about 1847. Living in Roath Cardiff in 1901.
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: ribbo39 on Wednesday 02 September 15 00:56 BST (UK)
Hi,

Am unable to find a parish called Badbury in Wilts - could it have been Avebury?

Alan
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 September 15 08:30 BST (UK)
Could you please give a reference for the 1901 census entry

Quote from: ribbo39 on Wednesday 02 September 15 00:56 BST (UK)
Am unable to find a parish called Badbury in Wilts - could it have been Avebury?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badbury,_Wiltshire

Rosie
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: Browny2004 on Wednesday 02 September 15 10:11 BST (UK)
Here is the census
http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/69822165/person/40207207597/facts
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 September 15 10:29 BST (UK)
Quote from: Browny2004 on Wednesday 02 September 15 10:11 BST (UK)
Here is the census
http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/69822165/person/40207207597/facts

That link takes me straight to a sign on screen for Ancestry
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: Browny2004 on Wednesday 02 September 15 10:39 BST (UK)
It wont let me post a direct link for the census because I haven't got an ancestry subscription.
They were living in llanelly st, Roath , Cardiff
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 September 15 11:18 BST (UK)
OK found it.  Reference for anyone looking is RG13/4976 f140 p25

The census entry gives Thomas Browns place of birth as Bradbury - will transcribe it so that we know who we are looking for.

Thomas is age 54 occ Carpenter
Jane his wife is 51 bn Taunton, Somerset
Harriet Pugsley (dtr) age 25 bn Corby Wood, Gloucestershire
Charlie Pugsley son in law bn Pembrokeshire
George Brown son 14 bn Cadoxton, Glamorganshire
Polly Brown dtr age 11 bn Cadoxton
Alfred Brown son age 9 bn Cadoxton
Frederick Brown son age 3 bn Cardiff
Florence Pugsley grandchild bn Cardiff
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: Browny2004 on Wednesday 02 September 15 11:46 BST (UK)
just for info, on frederick brown birth cert, her fathers name is john brown so im assuming that his full name is thomas john brown
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Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 September 15 11:51 BST (UK)
What is Fredericks mothers name on the birth certificate
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: Browny2004 on Wednesday 02 September 15 11:58 BST (UK)
sarah jane brown
formally wyatt
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 September 15 11:59 BST (UK)
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: ribbo39 on Wednesday 02 September 15 14:09 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie,
Thanks for the link. It appears that Badbury doesn't have its own parish registers and the inference is that it may form part of Chiseldon. Certainly its not listed by the Wilts FHS.
 
Quote from: ribbo39 on Wednesday 02 September 15 00:56 BST (UK)
Am unable to find a parish called Badbury in Wilts - could it have been Avebury?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badbury,_Wiltshire

Alan

Rosie
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Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 September 15 15:35 BST (UK)
I had never heard of it either Alan, when I searched google earth it landed in the middle of a field  ;D 
I fear Bradbury is non existant in Wilts too.  ::)

I am having problems locating this family prior to 1901 - back to searching for them

Does Frederick have a middle name - when was he born

Rosie
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: Browny2004 on Wednesday 02 September 15 17:40 BST (UK)
Frederick john brown
Born 17/02/1898
Born in bridgend street, cardiff
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: mazi on Wednesday 02 September 15 20:19 BST (UK)
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102347962

There is a Badbury in Wiltshire, south of Swindon as it was.
Has Methodist chapel but no parish church

Mike

Edit,  That's a poor link, enlarge the map and its bottom left.
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: mazi on Wednesday 02 September 15 20:34 BST (UK)
Swindon would be the registration district, I can see a John Thomas in 1849, but it's little better than a guess really.

Mike
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: Browny2004 on Wednesday 02 September 15 22:45 BST (UK)
Is there anything that would help find his birth apart from a marriage cert as I cant find the marriage anywhere. ???
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 03 September 15 07:10 BST (UK)
I can't see a marriage either.  You really need to be able to track him back in census, he may have been married before. 
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: Browny2004 on Thursday 03 September 15 07:37 BST (UK)
She was married to William kempton but her name has been transcribed as white instead of wyatt
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 03 September 15 08:01 BST (UK)
What happened to William and when

How many children did they have
Title: Re: thomas john brown
Post by: Browny2004 on Thursday 03 September 15 08:32 BST (UK)
He died about 1880. The only child i can find from their marriage is Harriett kempton