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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: chellin2 on Sunday 30 August 15 16:34 BST (UK)
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Hi I am looking for the parents of Charles Lyon. I have Charles married to Jane Dixon at 147 New Church Road in Camberwell and he was born about 1816 or 1811 but cant seem to find where he was born or who his parents were, any help would be very useful....thank you
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Could this be his baptism
Charles Lyon
Baptism 25 December 1809
St George in the East, Middlesex
father Charles Lyon,
mother Elizabeth
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Baptism a possible in 1851 aged 40 occ Milkman b Camberwell though?
Census ref HO107/1582/342/25
Keyboard86
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Baptism a possible in 1851 aged 40 occ Milkman b Camberwell though?
Census ref HO107/1582/342/25
Keyboard86
That is his son Charles born 1846 thanks keyboard86
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I dont think he was born that early Rosie
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??? The 1851 depicts a 40 year old man called Charles Lyon with wife Jane and children?
In 1841 aged 30 occ Milkman b Surrey with son George aged 3
Census ref HO107/1065/ 11/20 / 33
Keyboard86
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??? The 1851 depicts a 40 year old man called Charles Lyon with wife Jane and children?
In 1841 aged 30 occ Milkman b Surrey with son George aged 3
Census ref HO107/1065/ 11/20 / 33
Keyboard86
Yes that is him
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My tree so far is Oliver Lyon grandfather, Charles Lyon 1846 Great grandfather then Charles Lyon 1811 great great grandfather I now need his parents if possible
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Do you have Charles (bn c1811) on census after 1851 - Is it his wifes death in March qtr 1855
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Think I can see him 1861 with daughter Hannah age 12 & William age 9. Charles gives his place of birth as St George in the East and age as 48
RG9/ 368 f291 p11
or maybe it is the Charles whose baptism I found :-\
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??? Charles Lyon 62 newly married b Wandsworth, son Harry aged 3?
1871 RG10/698/62/36
Cannot work out occupation?
Keyboard86
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??? Charles Lyon 62 newly married b Wandsworth, son Harry aged 3?
1871 RG10/698/62/36
Cannot work out occupation?
Keyboard86
Hawker :-\
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:) Thanks Rosie, so when did Charles b c 1811 die?
Keyboard
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The Charles with new wife that keyboard found in 1871 looks like the one I had in 1861 - By 1881 he is with his wife Ellen and 13 year old son and he states he is born St George in the East
RG11/635 f93 p41
His marriage
Marriage Dec qtr 1861
Campbell Eleanor Wandsworth 1d 648
and wrongly transcribed reference number
Lyon Charles Wandsworth 1d 643 (I have reported it ;D
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The Charles Lyon who I listed in 1881 was buried Norwood Cemetery 4 March 1895 age 86 - abode Nelson Row, Clapham
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Sorry I live in Australia and had to go to bed lol Well now I am confused because I think I am following the one Rosie has but now you say that you have a Charles Lyon who is a Hawker I might be wrong as my grandfather Oliver Emmanual Lyon married a Hawker Pheobe Smith so maybe I should have followed keyboard found.....thank you might have to rethink
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Whoa, so lets start with a possible Oliver first in 1891?
Charles Lyon 48 occ Bottle Dealer
Jane 38
Charles 17
Joseph 15
Ada 9
Oliver 7
Albert 4
Residing New Church Road, Camberwell
Census ref RG12/487/24/41
Keyboard86
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Whoa, so lets start with a possible Oliver first in 1891?
Charles Lyon 48 occ Bottle Dealer
Jane 38
Charles 17
Joseph 15
Ada 9
Oliver 7
Albert 4
Residing New Church Road, Camberwell
Census ref RG12/487/24/41
Keyboard86
Oh yes that would sound more like him, sorry I have misled you
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:) Are you certain that Oliver Emmanuel was b c 1884 Camberwell if so family in 1881
Charles Lyon 36 occ General Dealer
Jane 30
Charles 7
Joseph 5
Residing Jardin Street, Camberwell
Census ref RG11/693/101/50
Keyboard86
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:) Are you certain that Oliver Emmanuel was b c 1884 Camberwell if so family in 1881
Charles Lyon 36 occ General Dealer
Jane 30
Charles 7
Joseph 5
Residing Jardin Street, Camberwell
Census ref RG11/693/101/50
Keyboard86
Yes he was definitely born in 1884 in Camberwell thank you so much as I was definitely going the wrong way
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:) OK his baptism has been transcribed as Oliver Emmanuel LYNN 13th July 1884 Walworth Common, Southwark Father Charles occ General Dealer Mother Jane abode 36, Scandale? Road
Keyboard86
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:) OK his baptism has been transcribed as Oliver Emmanuel LYNN 13th July 1884 Walworth Common, Southwark Father Charles occ General Dealer Mother Jane abode 36, Scandale? Road
Keyboard86
Brilliant thank you so much
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Hi have you any of the children's birth certificates aa Charles Lyon Jane Dixon was 1835?
Keyboard86
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Hi have you any of the children's birth certificates aa Charles Lyon Jane Dixon was 1835?
Keyboard86
No I havent
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OK so the marriage of a Charles Lyon c 1873 to a Jane? Could be still amongst the replies earlier for Charles eg 1861 George Lyon 23 occ Costermonger
Emma 28
Jane 1
Emma 0
Charles 15 Brother occ Costermonger
Residing Hunter Place, Southwark
Census ref RG09/329/14/22
Keyboard86
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Thank you it always makes it so hard when they are Travellers
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Hi again, any of the children of Charles/Jane married c 1873 would provide her maiden name, but a possible marriage 15th September 1872 St Peter's Walworth
Charles Lyon 22 occ General Dealer Father Charles occ General Dealer
Sarah Jane Lamner/Larman? 21
Father John Lamner/Larman occ General Dealer
Both abode Trafalgar Street
Witnesses John Larman/Eliza Watson
Keyboard86
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Hi again, any of the children of Charles/Jane married c 1873 would provide her maiden name, but a possible marriage 15th September 1872 St Peter's Walworth
Charles Lyon 22 occ General Dealer Father Charles occ General Dealer
Sarah Jane Lamner/Larman? 21
Father John Lamner/Larman occ General Dealer
Both abode Trafalgar Street
Witnesses John Larman/Eliza Watson
Keyboard86
Oh right I had Sarah Jane Lamner in the thread I was doing originally so looks like I was getting the two threads mixed up.......Thank you I can see where I was going wrong before
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:) Good news, but if you néed any help you know where we are!
Keyboard86
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Thank you I really have appreciated your help, have a good day