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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: Beeonthebay on Wednesday 19 August 15 19:37 BST (UK)
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On FindMyPast and the IGI I have found 2 children possibly belonging to Mary (Ann) ATKINS.
James illegitimate child of Mary Atkins at Seighford, Staffs, bap. 14 Jul 1839
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William son of Mary AITKINS at Lane End, Staffs, bap. 02 Sep 1841
How likely are these two to both be the children of Mary? Are Seighford and Lane End in close enough proximity in these times?
Mary POSSIBLY had a daughter called Ann but I can't find her.
She was transported to Australia and arrived in 1847 "with a child" but other than that I have no details.
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat, the James Atkins b 1839:-
1841 census
Thos Atkins 76
Frances 65
William 30
Mary 20
Eliza 14
James 2
Residing at Little Bridgeford, Seighford
Census ref HO107/995/ 4/26 / 6
Keyboard86
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat, the James Atkins b 1839:-
1841 census
Thos Atkins 76
Frances 65
William 30
Mary 20
Eliza 14
James 2
Residing at Little Bridgeford, Seighford
Census ref HO107/995/ 4/26 / 6
Keyboard86
Thank you, that one will be a strike then as Mary's parents were Joseph and Mary, no not those ones. :o
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Grandparent/s?
Keyboard86
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Grandparents?
Keyboard86
Probably not as on the 1841 census Mary is in the county prison, St Mary's, Staffs. ::)
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Hi again I have found the William AITKINS baptism at St John, Longton date as shown, have you also looked into the Henry Atkins 6th September 1835 St John, Longton illegitimate Mother Mary?
Keyboard86
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Hi again I have found the William AITKINS baptism at St John, Longton date as shown, have you also looked into the Henry Atkins 6th September 1835 St John, Longton illegitimate Mother Mary?
Keyboard86
Not another one!! I thought James would be the most likely as according to this newspaper clipping she had an 18 month old child in the right time frame.
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And this
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Hi again I do not know how old Mary was in 1841, but a Thomas Atkins 9th June 1833 St John Longton Mother Mary abode L E?
Keyboard86
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Hi again I do not know how old Mary was in 1841, but a Thomas Atkins 9th June 1833 St John Longton Mother Mary abode L E?
Keyboard86
No she would have only been 9 years old. I have found from another rootschat member that Ann was the child she had in Australia after being transported.
Thank you for your help. :)
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Hi, I have this Mary with an illegitimate child called James with that year of birth in my tree, I have pm'd you too.
James was living with Grandparents in 1841 as the first person posted in comments, In 1851 he was still living with his grandparents.
in 1853 she married John Tipper and in 1861 was living with him and James was also there, I dont know where Mary was in 1851 though.
I know nothing of being transported to Australia though?
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:) Hi do we have two Mary Atkins one in Australia with son James possibly, as this is the marriage of John Tipper to Mary Atkins:-
John Tipper 40 Father Matthew Tipper
Mary Atkins 40 Father Thomas Atkins
Both of Tenter Banks
1861 census
John Tipper 54
Mary 46
James Atkins 22 Stepson b Bridford
Sarah Tipper 8
Census ref RG09/1907/128/25
See my reply 2 for James in 1841?
Keyboard86
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I think these maybe 2 different Mary Atkins? Seighford is a long way from Lane End (Longton)
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:) Thanke for that, Little Bridgeford a few miles from Seighford, so who was the child who arrived in 1847 Australia with her?
So is your Mary, the Mary Ann Atkins aged 15 occ Potter at County Prison, St Mary, Stafford
Census ref HO107/1010/ 6/33/ 3?
OK if the one in prison 1841 aged 15 is your Mary/Mary Ann Atkins and her parents Joseph & Mary where was she baptised?
Keyboard86
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So my Mary from Seighford who married Tipper is a different Mary to yours then, still interesting