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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: corndolly on Sunday 16 August 15 20:43 BST (UK)
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Hi
On the 1891 census RG12/2612, F37 Gt. Grimsby,
Charles Mapleston aged 48 Head, ag. lab b. ?? Lincolnshire
Ethel Mapleston aged 21 wife, (could be 31? there is a line thro) b, Lincoln.
Trying to find out who the Ethel is and what happened to them. Cannot find on the 1881/1901 census Charles, or 1901 an Ethel age 31/41
Can find no record of any marriage or any deaths.
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated
corndolly
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Hi
On the 1891 census RG12/2612, F37 Gt. Grimsby,
Charles Mapleston aged 48 Head, ag. lab b. Binbrook Lincolnshire
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This looks like his birth, so is his age incorrect on 1891 census? (only birth showing in appropriate time frame)
Births June quarter 1839
Charles Mapleston Lincoln 14 423
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The Charles Mapleston born about 1839 in Lincolnshire appears to be living in Lancashire in 1881, married to an Emma.
He also appears to die in 1884.
Deaths December quarter 1884
Charles Mapleston age 45 Barton I. 8c 460
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What is your connection to the Charles and Ethel in 1891 - what else do you know about them?
Thank-you
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That Charles is also an accountant. There's an 1831 Charles married to Mary, but he also dies 1884.
I suspect , given the age difference, there is no marriage to find. However, finding out who Charles and Ethel were may be quite challenging with no other clues
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Thankyou for your replies
Regarding a possible connection to Charles and Ethel - The Ethel I am trying to trace is Ethel Blow b.1870 died 1922.
She was the daughter of Edward Collinson Blow and Jane Mapleston.
I have her on the 1881 census but nothing else until her death.
I could not find a marriage for her using variations of Blow, so I entered a random search for Ethel + birth date and county.
When I saw the entry for Ethel, age of 21 - if correct - on the 1891 census coupled with the surname of Mapleston [her mothers maiden name] I looked for a marriage, couldn't find any. Tried picking them up on the 1901 and 1911 census'. Found Charles the accountant, but that's about all.
corndolly
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Can you confirm this is the Ethel you are looking for?
1871 census
Edward Blow 31 joiner All family born Lincoln.
Jane Blow 28
Edward Blow 7
Mary E Blow 6
Charles M Blow 3
xxxxxEthel Blow 10 Months
Benjamin Mapleston 20 lodger unmarried ropemaker
RG10 Piece 3370 Folio 21 Page 36
Added: Recorded as Emely in 1881, even though there is also a sister called Emily age 5.
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Is this the death you are referring to? (Age out by about a year, but easy to do, I know)
Deaths December quarter 1922
Ethel Blow age 53 Stamford 7a 353
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Have you got the death certificates for Ethel and her parents, to see if any further information to be gained?
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Surely if her death is the one in Stamford in Dec 1922 and she was a married woman, she would not have been registered under her maiden name.
Birth April 1870 Lincoln 7a/506 Ethel Blow
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Then there was this couple ;D
Marriages Jun 1891
BLOW Charles Mapleston Lincoln 7a 1011
MAPLESTON Emma Gertrude Lincoln 7a 1011
Both aged 43 in 1911.
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Hi
The answer to your first two questions Chempat is yes, that is the family and the death to which I was referring; and no I haven't got any death certs.
To Larkspur - I agree if married, you would expect to find her death under a married name, I appreciate it would be the legal name, but I am not even sure if the Ethel with Charles Mapleston on the 1891 census, is Ethel Blow - that is what I am trying to establish.
The name was right, age was about right, there was a family connection between the Blows and Maplestons', it's the age diff., the term 'wife' and the fact I cannot find either of them together or apart, after 1891 that is bugging me.
To Geoff - the Emma Gertrude and Charles you found are another part of the family, and I have all the relevant details for them, but thankyou.
I guess a death cert is the only way I'll find out if I even have that correct.
So many times when I haven't been able to see that "wood for the trees", one of you has come up with an answer so blatently obvious I should have fallen over it!
Many thanks to all
corndolly
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There is also this marriage
Miles Paling, Manchester
18 May 1865
Charles Mapleston age 27 Father Robert Mapleston
Emma Malcolm 28, Widow father Robert Cheshire
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2962/40365_294405-00323/3474934?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgss%3dangs-g%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26gsfn%3dcharles%26gsln%3dmapleston%26mswpn__ftp%3dBinbrook%252c%2bLincolnshire%252c%2bEngland%26mswpn%3d1670228%26mswpn_PInfo%3d8-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3251%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c5273%257c1670228%257c0%257c%26MSAV%3d0%26msbdy%3d1838%26cp%3d0%26catbucket%3drstp%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26h%3d3474934%26recoff%3d12%2b13%2b38%26db%3dManchesterMarriagesCRO%26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d23&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord
Would be the couple in Lancashire on the 1881 census.
Sorry didn't manage to shorten the link ???
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The 1865 marriage is a different chap b 1838 and can be followed in later censuses still with his wife in Lancashire. He was an accountant
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"Would be the couple in Lancashire on the 1881 census."
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Hi Larkspur
No reason they would be in Lancashire that I can think of. Very much all Lincoln based until we come forward to the 1940/1950s
corndolly
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"Charles Mapleston age 27 Father Robert Mapleston
Emma Malcolm 28, Widow father Robert Cheshire"
"No reason they would be in Lancashire that I can think of. Very much all Lincoln based until we come forward to the 1940/1950s"
I was trying to point out that the Lancashire couple were Charles and EMMA. So would not be the Ethel you are looking for.
I think you need to send for the death certificate of Ethel Blow, and that hopefully should clear things up, if she is yours. You may be looking for a marriage that never existed.....
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Sorry Larkspur, wasn't trying to be funny.
Haven't we always been told how prim and proper everyone was back then! Certainly didn'i seem to apply to either "my lot", or my other halfs family; they're chopping and changing partners all over the place.
And yes , to quote something I read last night, I realise "bigamy was the poor mans divorce".
I just wish they had all done it, then at least I'd have a paper trail to follow.
many thanks
corndolly