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George Hood of Selby, a Tanner, died on the 18th September 1845 at a street called Gowthorpe, Selby, Yorkshire.
There does not appear to be a burial reference in the Selby Parish Register. When we visited Selby 4 years ago, there was no grave at Selby Abbey Churchyard or inside, for him.
I am looking for any information please, regarding the Burial or Grave location?
Thanks, Mark
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Hi Mark
Selby Parish records are held at York university in the Borthwick institute, York city - I would contact them and ask if there are any grave plot maps, grave register or a Sextons book (Grave diggers grave reference location book, with names of people buried and where unmarked graves are located -ref points from known headstones- {Example only:- Row C- Fred Flintstone's unmarked grave, 7 graves West of Joe Blogs headstone]
Not all these type of records survived though, so be prepared for disappointment before you contact them but you maybe lucky though.. :)
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/CBW/WRY/Selby.html
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He might appear in the NBI (National Burial Index ) if you are lucky.You will possibly find this in your local Family History Society
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Thank you very much for the responses.
Yes, I have already contacted the Borthwick Institute near York with a list of all the newspaper, directory and document references found to date, that my ancestor George Hood was mentioned in. My George Hood of Selby even had a Steam Engine, with boiler and base.
The Hood's also brewed beer at Selby, Yorkshire and were also Tanners 1822, 1835 and c.1840. His occupation was a Cooper when he married in 1815.
I had forgotten the National Burial Index, so thanks for reminding me.
At Selby, there was also a Quaker Burial Ground.
Mark
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Not sure when it opened but he does not appear to be in Selby Cemetery - records available on FindMyPast, but there again I don't know the period covered.
He doesn't appear on the NBI list.
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Thank you BumbleB for looking at NBI.
Mark
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Just a slight possibility in the tale of ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ?
I'm a bit suspicious of the that other George Hood who died Leeds Sept 1845 ? As its was the early days of GRO records, I have known double entries before- Could have died in Selby and buried Leeds if he came from Leeds and was only residing or visiting Selby at death being take to Leeds later.
Think the Leeds George died age 78
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Just a slight possibility in the tale of ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ?
I'm a bit suspicious of the that other George Hood who died Leeds Sept 1845 ? As its was the early days of GRO records, I have known double entries before- Could have died in Selby and buried Leeds if he came from Leeds and was only residing or visiting Selby at death being take to Leeds later.
Think the Leeds George died age 78
These are two definite and separate September 1845 newspaper entries in the Deaths column.
The York Herald 13 September 1845
[above the death entry it says On Friday, the 5th instant] "Same day, aged 63 years, Mr. George Hood, of Leeds, formerly a Serjeant in the 7th Regiment of Foot."
Now my George Hood, Tanner of Selby died 18th September 1845 according to his Death Certificate at Selby aged 60 years.
My ancestors placed a Death notice in The Leeds Intelligencer on the 20th and also The Yorkshire Gazette on 27 September 1845 ...
"On Thursday, the 18th inst., much and deservedly respected by all who knew him, aged 63, Mr. George Hood, of Selby, tanner."
Deaths of Two separate individuals both called George Hood, but having seen the earlier death, I wondered if my George Hood might also have served in the Services before his 1815 marriage.
Mark
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Try finding both George's on 1841 c
I not so sure, both aged 63 in the newspapers, date of death and date of burial are not always put down as death date but burial date
My great X 3 granny died aged 84 1852 on death certificate, was 74 on her headstone which match 1851c age 73 and was 72 on the parish register burials
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Compare maps
1845 -1847 map of Selby
Note- Railway line and road from Brayton to Selby where the Brayton road meets the railway line. shows no cemetery (See map below)
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344968
1888 map South west corner of Selby showing Brayton
OK! note - Railway line
Note - Road from Brayton where it meets the Railway line (At 2 oclock) top right corner of map - See cemetery.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/100947209
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1841 - HO`107/1281/11 folio 9 page 11
Gowthorpe
George Hood - 50 - Brewer
Sarah - 45
Mary - 20
James - 10
Ellen - 10
Sarah 5
Can't readily see a George Hood in Leeds, at the moment.
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On line records for Selby Cemetery are from 1858 to 1936. Selby Town Council hold and maintain records for the Cemetery http://www.selbytowncouncil.gov.uk/c/cemetery/ I would also drop a query to Selby FH Group http://www.selbydistrictfamilyhistory.btck.co.uk/CONTACTUS
Goughy
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Looking at the map of Selby 1845-1847. The only burial ground is the main town parish church.
Possible he's a nonconformist buried in a un-consecrated part/section of that church yard and registered in a nonconformist register or buried in another place/town /city that has a nonconformist burial ground or even Quakar one.
Need to eliminate George of Leeds with info who he was. Either of the two George' or both could have been in the army in Luddite times 1812 ish.
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1841 - HO`107/1281/11 folio 9 page 11
Gowthorpe
George Hood - 50 - Brewer
Sarah - 45
Mary - 20
James - 10
Ellen - 10
Sarah 5
Can't readily see a George Hood in Leeds, at the moment.
Interesting -if its him George is aged 55 in 1845 at death
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BUT - adult ages are rounded-down in 1841 census, so George could have been 54 and rounded down to 50 :-\ :-\
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Ah! Well. maybe a sunny day out with a breeze ? to York one day this week, then check BT's' and church registers, MI's and stuff. If you think of ow't - shout it out.
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BUT - adult ages are rounded-down in 1841 census, so George could have been 54 and rounded down to 50 :-\ :-\
That would be 55 to 59 years old then at death 1845 -Selby George
59 it near enough death certificate age of 60
If say he was 54 and 11 month old in 1841 time of census, thats near the 55 to 59 croup, putting him Aged 60 to 64 1845
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Thank you for replies,
I have done a "Hood" search (give or take 10 years) with the keyword "Selby" on one of the forebears site links and found a burial of John Hood aged 82, death year 1819 West Riding, from their Selby Abbey link which covers 1813 to 1837 (apparently links to NBI).
I will try to get an 1819 John Hood copy Will and see if John Hood left anything to a Son, or Grandson called George Hood of Selby.
I will try a search for John Hood at the Library, for a burial image.
Thanks, Mark
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Not sure whether you've got the details of burial - John Hood, aged 82 of Selby buried 4 April 1819 at St Mary, Selby.
Wills - from the Index of Wills on FindMyPast
April 1819 - John Hood of Bardon Park, Leicestershire - Administration - £200 - so no Will :'(
August 1820 - John Hood - Administratrix is Rebecca Hood of Gosport, Hants. - Death Duty Register, so again no Will. :'(
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Compare maps
1845 -1847 map of Selby
Note- Railway line and road from Brayton to Selby where the Brayton road meets the railway line. shows no cemetery (See map below)
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344968
1888 map South west corner of Selby showing Brayton
OK! note - Railway line
Note - Road from Brayton where it meets the Railway line (At 2 oclock) top right corner of map - See cemetery.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/100947209
Further, to my above post. Thank you for this, I have used NLS to look up Air Force Lists, but no idea they had maps online too.
The "Selby Cemetery" to which I think you are referring on the map, is the one on the Doncaster Road. Records apparently start from 1858 and some later Hood deaths (one in 1860 & two in 1862) are apparently buried there.
Mark
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Not sure whether you've got the details of burial - John Hood, aged 82 of Selby buried 4 April 1819 at St Mary, Selby.
Wills - from the Index of Wills on FindMyPast
April 1819 - John Hood of Bardon Park, Leicestershire - Administration - £200 - so no Will :'(
August 1820 - John Hood - Administratrix is Rebecca Hood of Gosport, Hants. - Death Duty Register, so again no Will. :'(
No details or scan, only 1819 date, so thanks for the April 1819 death date for John Hood, of Selby, I can check the Yorkshire newspapers and look for the 1819 image at the Library.
I am still going to ask the Borthwick/Diocesan Archive about an 1819 Will, as it might not be listed online?
Thanks Mark
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Just a thought ?
What did the Selby George die of ?
If fever ! in an epidemic they buried them bodies fast in a communal fever grave and in the panic did not always record those buried or may have missed the odd one.
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Just a thought ?
What did the Selby George die of ?
If fever ! in an epidemic they buried them bodies fast in a communal fever grave and in the panic did not always record those buried or may have missed the odd one.
Thanks
George Hood of Selby (who died 18 Sept 1845) died of Disease of the Heart, certified 18 months.
Mark
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Here's a link to the Selby Civic Society about the Cholera Epidemic in 1848/1849 and confirms that Selby Abbey graveyard closed in 1856. http://www.selbycivicsociety.org.uk/blue-plaques/choleraburialground
Mention was made of a Hood being buried in St Mary's - that's the Catholic church. Co-incidentally, the Catholic Chapel was provided by Lord Petre and I see from records that George Hood lived in houses owned by Mr Petre. Could need to reference Catholic records??
Goughy
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Here's a link to the Selby Civic Society about the Cholera Epidemic in 1848/1849 and confirms that Selby Abbey graveyard closed in 1856. http://www.selbycivicsociety.org.uk/blue-plaques/choleraburialground
Mention was made of a Hood being buried in St Mary's - that's the Catholic church. Co-incidentally, the Catholic Chapel was provided by Lord Petre and I see from records that George Hood lived in houses owned by Mr Petre. Could need to reference Catholic records??
Goughy
Thanks Goughy for the info, that explains the Selby Cemetery lists beginning circa 1858, that must have been when the new Selby Cemetery opened.
Oh Catholic, that's possibly why no 1845 burial was found in the Parish Register. There was a Friends Meeting House and the Quakers had a burial ground apparently. Not actually checked.
Yes that is right George Hood was an "occupier" of land owned by Mr Petre Lord of the Manor, circa (either side of) 1814.
A Grandson George William Hood died of Cholera Convulsions Certified 1857, with Ann Hood of Gowthorpe, Selby nursing him, thanks for that insight.
Mark
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OK, it's not difficult, BUT I'm confused :o The burial entry I found on FindMyPast for John Hood purports to be at St Mary, Selby (as per the transcription) BUT the image is from the Bishop's Transcripts of Burials AND therefore cannot (I think) relate to a Catholic Church :-\ The paperwork is the standard post-1813 paperwork, again I'm not sure what paperwork Catholic churches used. Plus the fact that there is a marriage by licence in 1819 (Bond and Allegation don't appear to have survived). The headings for Baptisms, Marriages and Burials just states the parish of Selby, as do the pages pre-1813.
How wonderful is Genuki ;D ;D "The church, a peculiar of the Selby Court, is a vicarage, dedicated to St Mary and St Germain, in the deanery of the Ainsty."
The Bishop's Transcripts for 1798 are signed by the Vicar - Thomas Mounsey.
Genuki has a transcribed list of the Abbots and Vicars in Selby Abbey - 1797 - 1819 - Thomas Mounsey.
Added: 1834 Pigots Directory - "The church, formerly conventual, and belonging to the Abbey, dedicated to St Mary and St Germain ...." Other directories refer to it as just St Germain.
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Probably not confused BumbleB. Looking at the history of the Catholic Church in Selby, it would appear RC's were buried in Selby Abbey http://stmarysselby.org.uk/history.htm until they have their own section in Selby Cemetery from 1856.
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OK, but all the entries in 1819, baptisms, marriages and burials are entered as being conducted by the Curate, John Turner. Would he have conducted the burial of a Catholic? :-\ I can see a couple of burials being conducted, in 1822, by a vicar from another parish. However, I have not looked at all 719 pages of the records. :o
died 9 January 1788 - Edward Leadbetter of Selby, a Roman Catholic priest - buried within the altar rails of Selby Church, aged 40.
Added: yet another reason to look at the parish records - Selby obviously partially followed Reverend Dade, so there is additional information on baptisms and burials - like parents, spouses and occupations. ;)
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Taking all into consideration, George's burial remains a mystery.
Around Selby area a lot of Parishes have Dade records which is great and can take you back two generations and loads of snippets of info.
Goughy
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St Mary's Catholic church was built in 1856 see link
http://stmarysselby.org.uk/
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Just a thought ?
What did the Selby George die of ?
If fever ! in an epidemic they buried them bodies fast in a communal fever grave and in the panic did not always record those buried or may have missed the odd one.
Thanks
George Hood of Selby (who died 18 Sept 1845) died of Disease of the Heart, certified 18 months.
I have all the IGI HOOD Yorkshire printed off as eleven A3 pages, which has about 4 lists per page in small writing (just comfortably readable with good eyesight) from the Fiches.
But the Hood burial events must be on other Registers, not consulted by the IGI complilers, or missed out.
One town Parish Register I noticed, was only partly transcribed on the IGI.
Mark
There does not seem to be a burial in Selby for George's wife Sarah either ?
May sound a dumb question !
Have you actually seen the parish register yourself (or on Film) of Selby burials 1845 or BT's in as numbered in numerical order entries on a page by date of the register or had them checked by someone or archive staff at the Borthwick institute York Uni..
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???
http://scs.statementdigital.com/uploads/selby_civic_society/files/QuakerBurialGroundqr.pdf
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Hello dobfarm
Your post & question is not daft.
Whilst I have the Register Office Certificate for Sarah Hood's death on 28 November 1879 aged 86, dying at 11 Gowthorpe, Selby, stating Widow of George Hood, Tanner, the IGI lists no burial for Sarah in 1879.
I paid a local Library to search their Selby Parish film/s for George baptism/ birth quite recently. But they did say there are other Registers for places close to Selby. I then contacted the Borthwick, who have suggested working out from Selby, once all the surrounding Selby Registers are checked.
What I have done now, is contacted the Selby Local History Society for George Hood's 1845 burial, perhaps they'll have local burial knowledge, in addition to local access that can help me on this one.
I'm afraid I can't find this John Hood 1819 burial image on Ancestry Institution either, that has been mentioned.
Perhaps, I should join Find My Past?
I have quite a bit of Hood stuff at Selby, back in the early 1700s (1717 & 1732) which links those Hood's to Wistow, Selby. The Hood name is mentioned in 1379 at Wistow / Wystowe, according to a 19th Century book by W. Wheater and he mentions Hud in the field names and the Hudd and Hood variants.
Wheater's book is based on transcribed extracts of the 1711 writings of Storr, who recorded the information for the Arch Bishop of York.
Wistow only had Baptims and Marriages. Apparently Burials went elsewhere.
Thanks Mark
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???
http://scs.statementdigital.com/uploads/selby_civic_society/files/QuakerBurialGroundqr.pdf
Thanks, I am asking the Selby History Society, more about this.
One thing, starting this thread, has confirmed that there was no record online, to suggest where George Hood was buried. I will now wait and see what Selby Local History Society come up with.
According to two other family Hood branches online, George Hood's approximate 1780s and circa 1795 birth date is as far, as they have got back. I even recognise their trees until they branch off.
George Hood's son was John Hood and his son was George Hood died 1885 known to us as a Freemason. We knew in one of the other branch/arms, that one became a Minister and this is in the Census.
Orally, we originate from Selby, but my Grandfather was Aircrew Air Observer in Bomber Command and was accidentally killed by the air defences over Southampton, UK, when returning from an Op. My Grandmother moved house and our part of the family records sadly disappeared.
Fortunately, some of the other family records, were in the possession of my Grandfather's brother and these passed to his son, who kindly photocopied their part of the family records, including all the correspondence about the aircrash, after some months the Air Ministry admitted the defences were involved. It is listed in a 'Friendly' file.
Kind regards Mark
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I think I misread an earlier post when I thought Mark had asked the Borthwick to do a Parish Register search. If no request was made, this needs a visit to the Borthwick to look at the Selby Abbey Burial Register of 1845. I'm a bit busy this week, but could drop-in one evening next week and have a quick look (no parking fees on an evening ;) Selby Library and FH Group records are sparse. The FH Group will ask if any member has Hood as part of their research
Goughy
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Hello Goughy
Thank you. The main reason why the George Hood September 1845 burial (died Selby 18 September 1845) entry might be useful, is the entry may give additional information about G.H., and hopefully a graveyard location and a surviving headstone may possibly give information or even a birth date regarding G.H., hopefully leading to his birth record. Although, if you find the burial on film, details to which cemetery it relates and a photocopy would be great, please.
Atkinson, Selby
Just noticed your interest is Atkinson, Selby. On p.283 in W. Wheater's book "The History of the Parishes of Sherburn and Cawood, with Notices of Wistow, Saxton, Towton &c." (also downloadable for free from British Library) p.283, printed from extracts of W. Storr's Journal (written early 18th Century) there is a list of "Names of Fields, Places &c., in Wistow" one is called "Atkinson's croft". Also on page 284 under "Owners and Tennants of Lands in Wistow, 1711-2" is a reference to "Atkinson, m."
It is the Second Edition that deals with Wistow.
I can scan the cover and two pages into a colour pfd and email?
Regards Mark
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Hello
Got the 1819 St Mary, Selby, thanks.
I was disappointed the John Hood 1819 burial did not appear for me online at the Library, so thank you.
I presume the 1819 St Mary Selby, Bishops Transcript pages do not continue into September 1845 and the problem lies with bad transcribing online, which is failing to find George Hood Burial entry sometime just after his death 18th September 1845?
Looked through the paid researchers sheet and the George Hood September 1845 burial was searched for, in the 'Selby Abbey' Burial Register, at Selby Library.
I'll ring Selby Library and see if they have a separate St Mary, Selby, Burials reel, for 1845.
Goughy
I have looked up Atkinson at Wistow, near Selby in 1711, in the book I have, for book & page details, see my previous post. Let me know, if you want a colour scan of the two pages in a printable pdf.
Thanks Mark
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For Clarity
St Mary is the Abbey Selby
St Mary & St Germans, Church or known as Selby Abbey today.
see map link 1845
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344968
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All Saints Church Barlby graveyard
Note East Selby -East of the river in Barlby chapely part of Hemingbrough Parish on parish boundary map (Yellow line on map is the river and boundary).
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Maps/WRY/Selby.html
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Click on maps to zoom in (Links below)
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Maps/ERYParishes.gif
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Maps/WRYParishes.gif
All Saints church( large) graveyard in Barlby with Osgodby chapelry in the parish Hemingbrough in the East riding, starts it parish and regional E Riding boundary with Selby in the middle of the River Ouse, with the village of Barlby is less than 2 miles from Selby. (Is east Selby otherside of river in them days and Wren lane about 300 yards from this Barlby in Hemingbrough parish across the river Ouse bridge, He could have worked in Wren lane and lived other side of the river in his early years)
George Hood, he was a Cooper (Barrel maker) 1822 and 1829 Trades directories in Wren lane Selby which is near the river bidge. The river had docks at Barlby. the usage
of barrels needed there.
Its possible the Hood, parents, grandparents came from Barlby or worshiped/buried there.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=544599.msg3982479#msg3982479
Ps;- When you finally get back to Robin Hood -He's buried at Kirklees Hall, Brighouse. ;D ;D ;D
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Hello dobfarm
I see I have started something, with ... I can't find an 1845 burial! This knowledge of the Selby locality and boundaries will prove to be very helpful, I hope.
Thank you very much for those map links with boundaries, the Parish of Barlby seems to run along the river, at Selby. The place of Selby seems to go into Barlby. Excellent research to find that.
The catalogue listing for the Will of Roger Hood of Selby (amongst the records of Langton Hall) refers to property at Ousegate ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/65bb1474-2e0f-47d9-a028-e9007051934f
The Leeds Library and Information Service (online pdf) general coverage dates for Barlby are 1780 to 1885, "MIC 929.34274 Y82" 7 Reels/Vol. (same MIC number as Selby).
Wistow goes up to 1812, but I am led to believe nobody was buried at Wistow.
Thank you, Mark
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Its likely Sarah is buried in her own grave in Selby cemetery (Records) but would be interesting to know if she is in the consecrated or non-consecrated which may point to George's later religion as C of E or other. (Likely they stopped all burials at the Abbey or other church/chapel, even in old graves as reason not to be buried with George)
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Selby Town Council should be able to tell you if Sarah Hood is in Selby Cemetery, they hold the records. Selby Family History transcribed the records for the Council which appear on FindMyPast and it's an on going project. If I get chance next Tues at the next meeting I'll have a look, but in the meantime if you want to contact the Town Council the number is 01757 708449.
Just to expand on Dobby's bit about boundaries - Barlby was in the old East Riding and Selby in the West Riding. Locally the River Ouse is known as no man's land. The width of the river divides Selby from Yorkshire, but "we in the East Riding" venture over to foreign parts in Selby to go to shop etc.
EDIT: If not in Selby, George could be in Brayton
Thanks for the comment on Atkinsons - I have seen the Wheaters Book.
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possible original locations of roots of these Hood's Selby
John Hood x Jane Marshall marriage 28 March 1765 Pickering, York
John Hood x Jane Dickinson in Scalby, Yorkshire. marriage 23 Nov 1762
Jane Hood burial 1803 St Mary Selby (Needs an age at burial*) - (Could be infant burial)
John Hood buial (as Bumble B Post) 1819 Selby
BumbleB * could you look up in FindMyPast -as link
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/yorkshire-bishops-transcripts-of-burials?firstname=jane&firstname_variants=true&lastname=hood
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Its likely Sarah is buried in her own grave in Selby cemetery (Records) but would be interesting to know if she is in the consecrated or non-consecrated which may point to George's later religion as C of E or other. (Likely they stopped all burials at the Abbey or other church/chapel, even in old graves as reason not to be buried with George)
I emailed Selby Council a few days ago about Selby Cemetery and their reply came today confirming four Hoods:-
John Hood, Tanner, 41 years, Gowthorpe, Selby, buried 4 Dec 1860, Ceremony by F.W. Harper.
George Hood, Farmer, 37 years, Bondgate, Selby, buried 26 Jan 1862, Ceremony by Robert Furness.
William Hood, son of Ann, 24 years, New Lane, Selby, buried 11 July 1862, Ceremony by Saul Allen.
Sarah Hood, wife of John, 66 years, Home on Spalding Moor, buried 3 July 1886, Ceremony by John Jenkins.
[Home possibly should say Holme? on ...]
***George Hood's Widow (on Death Certificate and traced through each Census til death) Sarah Hood [nee Russel, born 30 Sep 1793 Selby ], "Widow of George Hood, Tanner" who died aged 86 years, on 28 November 1879 at 11 Gowthorpe, Selby, is not buried at Selby Cemetery and if we could find Sarah's burial, we might also find her husband George Hood's September 1845 burial place?
I have got the September 1845 Selby St Mary burial page now, thank you and as my paid researcher had suggested, no George Hood burial listed. So a copy of this page no longer required, as it does not resolve George Hood's resting place.
***Perhaps Sarah Hood's 28 November 1879 death (aged 86) could lead us to her late husband George Hood's burial place? Worth a look-up, if Sarah went to same location and/or buried with George Hood?
Regards Mark
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Have you a copy of George's will?
EDIT: Have you been able to trace his daughter's burials - 1853 Sarah 1854 Mary 1855 Ellen?
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Have you a copy of George's will?
EDIT: Have you been able to trace his daughter's burials - 1853 Sarah 1854 Mary 1855 Ellen?
Yes I have George Hood's Will.
I have not traced Children's burials, only have John Hood, Tanner, aged 41, burial 4 Dec 1860 from Selby Council today. The Selby Cemetery opened about 1858?
George Hood of Selby, Brewer and Tanner, made 30 March 1844. It deals with how the property at Gowthorpe, Selby and Wren Lane, Selby, will be divided up and shared out, allowances, between his children. His daughters are Mary [died Nov 1854, aged 34], Ellen [died July 1855, aged 23] and Sarah [died Sept 1853, aged 18], provision for his wife Sarah. How the shares of the other children, will not be liable for debts, if one falls into debt. Provisions to the three daughters and allowance to wife.
Nothing about family grave/burial, only the standard reference to payment of funeral expenses.
He appoints an Arbitrator, his friend, Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, Merchant, to settle any disputes.
He appoints his three sons William, John ["John Hood, of Selby a Tanner", died 2 Dec., York Herald 8 Dec 1860. Buried Selby Cemetery per Selby Council] and George, as Joint Executors, those and his other sons Richard Hood [died at Selby Thurs 2 May 1850, a Grocer, aged 23, Obit in both York Herald & Leeds Mercury papers] and James are mentioned in the Will.
Witnesses are Edw'd Parker, Hen'y Birkinshaw and William Penrose, dated 30 March 1844.
It was written into a volume and a Will of another individual, follows it. The Borthwick list it as Probate "Will: George Hood, Selby, Mar 1846, Prog" with reference V213A F292 MF 1109.
Mark
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I assume you got the Will of the micro film at Borthwick if its in the volume book- If one orders a copy of the original Will in the bungle, there could most likely be additional papers with the Will from probate. Though unlikely anything on his burial place.
There could be solicitors records with his funeral paperwork
With all that wealth in the Will ! it sounds as though there should be a head or flat stone memorial in a churchyard to go in fitting with George's status.
If he was buried at the Abbey ? there was a big massive fire at the Selby Abbey in 1906 that could have destroyed headstones with falling debris. Also the 1847 savage Selby flood.
http://www.thecardindex.com/postcards/selby-abbey-anon/6661
'a' mean he was not short of a bob or two. ::)
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"He appoints an Arbitrator, his friend, Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, Merchant, to settle any disputes".
As a bit of an aside (but enriches the info on life of George), Hutchinson's were a well known Quaker family and his son went on to be Sir Jonathan Hutchinson, a famous Surgeon
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"He appoints an Arbitrator, his friend, Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, Merchant, to settle any disputes".
As a bit of an aside (but enriches the info on life of George), Hutchinson's were a well known Quaker family and his son went on to be Sir Jonathan Hutchinson, a famous Surgeon
Because, the double checking of the September 1845 Selby Burial Register has drawn an absolute and definite blank now, I was going to consider the Quaker angle.
However, after your post Goughy the surviving Quaker records are now a must, so I'll email the archive concerned (noted it somewhere) and make a specific request with date for an estimate to check and have copies of the Quaker records, this will substantially cut down / cut out blind searching fees.
Yes, two Hoods in the early 18th Century / 1700s were Surgeons at Selby.
The 1844/1846 George Hood Will is not a wrapped bundle type. They had a Brewhouse, Yards, Workshops, Outbuildings and "Messuages or Cottages". I have the 1822 and 1835 Street Directories. They were occupiers at Wren Lane, when large parts of the town were offered for Sale in a number of Lots in 1835, so George must have purchased at the Auction.
Many thanks, Mark
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Though its all very interesting but what are your objectives in finding the burial of George and the church graveyard ? just for a family tree or hope of finding new indicating info or confirming known info in the search of George's parents.
Cooper, tanners, brewers etc, are trades that needed apprenticeships or family taught trades in a family business or a bought business with skilled trade workers. Property deeds, land registry or tenancy agreements all needed records and sometimes needed solicitors or their clerks etc.
People can be owner or tenant occupiers of property
http://www.hull.ac.uk/arc/collection/manor.html
Click S in horizontal menu: then look for Selby in link
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possible original locations of roots of these Hood's Selby
Jane Hood burial 1803 St Mary Selby (Needs an age at burial*) - (Could be infant burial)
John Hood buial (as Bumble B Post) 1819 Selby
BumbleB * could you look up in FindMyPast -as link
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/yorkshire-bishops-transcripts-of-burials?firstname=jane&firstname_variants=true&lastname=hood
Jane, wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner - buried 15 August 1803.
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Hello BumbleB
"Jane, wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner - buried 15 August 1803." Hope it is on Ancestry, as I should like to get a copy.
Thank you, very much for that new information about Jane, as I don't have that burial, but I have a John Hood being a Master (noted down), of a Boat which did sailings from Selby to other English ports.
In answer to dobfarm, I am really trying to discover George Hood's birth/ parentage, but sometimes graves give a birth date, give unknown family members and associated records occasionly give a little more info.
In the past, records which are usually insignificant, occasionly reveal little gems. Until they are viewed, one never knows.
Thanks Mark
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The entry was on FindMyPast - BT's - as per Dobfarm's link. :o
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Thinks its time to look at deeds: as may show George's daddy named of deeds at Gowthorpe tannery or copper shed on Wren lane pre 1822 or pre 1819 ( Maybe John)
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"He appoints an Arbitrator, his friend, Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, Merchant, to settle any disputes".
As a bit of an aside (but enriches the info on life of George), Hutchinson's were a well known Quaker family and his son went on to be Sir Jonathan Hutchinson, a famous Surgeon
Because, the double checking of the September 1845 Selby Burial Register has drawn an absolute and definite blank now, I was going to consider the Quaker angle.
However, after your post Goughy the surviving Quaker records are now a must, so I'll email the archive concerned (noted it somewhere) and make a specific request with date for an estimate to check and have copies of the Quaker records, this will substantially cut down / cut out blind searching fees.
Yes, two Hoods in the early 18th Century / 1700s were Surgeons at Selby.
The 1844/1846 George Hood Will is not a wrapped bundle type. They had a Brewhouse, Yards, Workshops, Outbuildings and "Messuages or Cottages". I have the 1822 and 1835 Street Directories. They were occupiers at Wren Lane, when large parts of the town were offered for Sale in a number of Lots in 1835, so George must have purchased at the Auction.
Many thanks, Mark
Thin info but ! its there
Its an old post but show Hood's of Selby as connection with Quakers
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~quakers/qq7-97.htm
Scroll down page in link
find Richard P. Taylor researching Hood and Arundel of Selby
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Sarah married James HOOD at Selby Abbey on 27-12-1851 and they subsequently moved to Derby, England with their 9 children. Sarah died at Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England on 22-08-1911 and was buried in the Quaker burial ground.
Unquote.
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I've checked the register of deeds index books at Wakefield WYAS for place name of interest for possible burial places
( I've not Seen the actual deeds)
Named in deeds George Hood
Nothing before 1820 ?
Aldborough (Boroughbridge) 1820
Aldborough (Boroughbridge) 1829
Selby Gowthorpe 1831
Selby Wren lane 1833
Broroughbridge 1835
Selby Gowthorpe 1836
Ripon 1844
Skelton 1844
Langthorpe 1844
Selby Gowthorpe 1845
Boroughbridge 1845
To do with Will 1846
Selby WR 1846
Boroughbridge WR 1846
Nothing after 1846
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John Hood died 1819 ? Selby
Thats about it as far as what I can find local ( West Riding) West Yorkshire Archives
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Deeds Index Book John Hood
Nothing 20 years before 1805
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Little timble near Harrogate 1805
Bewerley near Ripon (Not Beverley E riding) 1809
Malzeard near Ripon 1810
Sawley near Ripon 1810
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I've checked the register of deeds index books at Wakefield WYAS for place name of interest for possible burial places
( I've not Seen the actual deeds)
Named in deeds George Hood
Nothing before 1820 ?
Aldborough (Boroughbridge) 1820
Aldborough (Boroughbridge) 1829
Selby Gowthorpe 1831
Selby Wren lane 1833
Broroughbridge 1835
Selby Gowthorpe 1836
Ripon 1844
Skelton 1844
Langthorpe 1844
Selby Gowthorpe 1845
Boroughbridge 1845
To do with Will 1846
Selby WR 1846
Boroughbridge WR 1846
Nothing after 1846
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John Hood died 1819 ? Selby
Thats about it as far as what I can find local ( West Ridding) West Yorkshire Archives
Thank you dobfarm for that list of Hood Deeds and telling me where they are held. Selby Gowthorpe and Selby Wren Lane are in the frame.
I can inform you that the Boroughbridge Deeds likely refer to the Grantham Arms, Boroughbridge, as I have that noted down, but no link to my direct line of descent, as far as I currently know at the moment.
"Hood Grange" Sutton-under-WhiteStone Cliffe, a farm a few miles from Thirsk, was built near a Roman settlement.
There should be some stuff amongst the Arch Bishop of York papers if they have survived and it was let or sub-let to Trinity College Cambridge.
Apparently my family can be traced back to the 14th Century and the hobby is just beginning to get exciting. The Hood's are buried in the floor of Selby Abbey in the years 1687, 1694, 1706, 1713, 1717, 1732, 17?9.
I have made two enquiries for a Marriage (early GRO regstration for John Hood of Selby out of curiosity, not in my direct line), awaiting/finalising the order for Roger Hood's Will and I have sent my George Hood Sept 1845 burial enquiry off to Leeds University Spec. Coll. as they hold the Selby Quaker "Burial Notes" in a couple of volumes.
Thank you all, for the inputs and interest.
Kind regards, Mark
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Another interesting thing when my Grandmother wrote to me as a small boy in the 1960s, I recall the letters being sealed across the join, with a firm or hard red blob, with a symbol pressed into it.
As a child it was novel in the 1960s and caused great excitement when the postman arrived, as I knew who the sender was. We were/are working class and so were my schoolmates, so I was ridiculed greatly over the red blob on the envelope, vaguely an old rickety 'H' because it sloped, with a symbol.
My Mother's side also had a nee H surname. They were Brickmakers near Preschute, Wilts., about 1800.
Mark
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My actual granddad was born 1867- Mum had me late in life and she was born late in her dads life , my granddad was illiterate, An ag lab, and later a farm manager, so never got a red sealed letter.
I can now confirm with my own eyes George was not entered in the parish burials (As we already know about Selby but had a look while I was at Borthwick), of Selby, Barlby and Brayton Sept 1845.
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Hello dobfarm
My word!! Your Grandfather born 1867, that is absolutely incredible. I'm a little envious that you can get back to 1867, with your Grandfather. Have you managed to get further back.
George Hood of Selby dying in 1845 was my four times Great Grandfather. John his son, a Tanner, had a 'shotgun' wedding and married Sarah Richardson at Sculcoates 1846.
Thanks for looking at Selby and those neighbouring Parishes at the Borthwick. Once I get past the (presumed) Quaker time, I hope to get back to others known, or perhaps there might be a twist.
Thanks, Mark
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Best Granddad died 1957 aged 90 -I had 7 years of my early life with him. Now a days to think I lived with a man born 1867 makes my mind boggle. I've still got his glasses and his 19th century pipe.
WW2 he was fighting fires in the Sheffield blitz aged 75 to 77 with his 2 sons.(Equivalent to dads army)
My older brother born 1944 had 13 years with him and my oldest brother b 1941 had 16 years with him.
If he could have lived to 1969 (He would have been 102 which is possible today) to see the man on the moon would have been something!
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London and Surrey Bond marriage bond allegation
17 August 1778
John Hood parish of Scarborough, a mariner Widower
to Sarah Hammond Widow (Does not say where she came from)
ref MS 10091E/91
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Sarah Hood — burial 1785 Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England ???
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John Hood X Jane Newby marriage: ???
3 November 1793
Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England
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London and Surrey Bond marriage bond allegation
17 August 1778
John Hood parish of Scarborough, a mariner Widower
to Sarah Hammond Widow (Does not say where she came from)
ref MS 10091E/91
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Sarah Hood — burial 1785 Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England ???
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John Hood X Jane Newby marriage: ???
3 November 1793
Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England
Thanks, I am going to see if the Selby Hood's were Quakers.
However, an entry from the Selby Marriage Register of 27 November 1794 has this ... Maudland Hood, Spinster aged 20 years of this Parish, married a Charles Turner, a Blacksmith, aged 24. I don't know if she was in my lineage.
According to unverified information, a Maudland Hood was born Scarborough BTS.
Mark
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Hi Mark
If you are having them checking the Quaker registers at Leeds University Library -I would have them check to see if there is a record of George's birth/baptism with parents names foremost !!! ,(If Quakers baptised) as more important than his burial, as other than nice to know it, its unlikely to help find George's parents.
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Hi Mark
If you are having them checking the Quaker registers at Leeds University Library -I would have them check to see if there is a record of George's birth/baptism with parents names foremost !!! ,(If Quakers baptised) as more important than his burial, as other than nice to know it, its unlikely to help find George's parents.
Hello dobfarm
Leeds replied this morning and said this ...
Thank you for your email. I am afraid that, due to the digitisation of our Quaker indexes, if there were any mention of your relative in the records a name search would bring up the relevant pages of the records. As it is there is no record of a 'George Hood' anywhere within the collection, nor of his wife. I am sorry not to be able to be of more help and wish you luck with the rest of your research.
All best wishes,
Reader Services Team
Special Collections
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Hello All
I am looking generally at the Yorkshire Districts of where other Hood's (currently unrelated) died 1837 to 1850, to see if I can build up Hood clusters and where these are.
I am thinking that, although Hood's were buried in the Selby Abbey floor in the early 18th Century and several Hood's were buried at Selby early 19th Century, George Hood who was resident at Selby before his 1815 marriage to Sarah Russel could have moved from elsewhere in Yorkshire.
I will check if there are any Abbey grave plans. Could those buried in the Crypt or Abbey floor be listed separately?
No Will for, John Hood or Jane Hood
No Will for John Hood, buried 1819 Selby St Mary and no Will for Jane Hood buried 1803 at Selby, at the Borthwick.
No Sarah Hood 1879 Funeral Reference
The Selby Library have checked the Selby Times, but no 1879 Sarah Hood (widow of George Hood) Obituary, or funeral report, so this does not identify their burial place. Sarah is not at Selby Cemetery (opened 1858) according to Selby Council.
George Hood was an Overseer of Poor in 1838
However, I do have:-
a) from the 21 April 1838 Leeds Intelligencer Newspaper, regarding the recent election of Parish Officers in Selby for the ensuing year, George Hood, Wm Staniland, George Richardson and Mr Joseph Twist, were appointed "Overseers of Poor"
Within a short time the Selby Poor Law Union (Selby Union) had built a workhouse and appointed a type of Principal and Matron, where the poor could be put to work, housed and given medical care and meals.
Another 1839 Hood Marriage at Riccall
b) The 24 December 1839 Marriage Certificate has arrived for John Hood, Labourer and Elizabeth Lazenby who both resided at Riccall and were married in the Parish Church in the Parish of Riccall, Yorkshire and registered in the Registration District of Selby.
So nearby Riccall in 1839 was in the Registration District of Selby.
Riccall Question
Perhaps George Hood dying 18 September 1845 may have been distantly related to these Hood's at Riccall and might lie at Riccall and can anyone confirm this, please?
EDIT: Riccall Burials checked by Goughy - see below
Overseer of the Poor
George Hood's brief 1845 newspaper Obituaries suggest he was respected by locals, but I cannot find any later newspaper reference after 1838 to him being an Overseer of Poor, at Selby.
Would a local business person and an Overseer of Poor at Selby, be entitled to burial or a memorial within the Selby Union Workhouse grounds or other place and this is why he is not showing up, at Selby?
If a burial took place in a Crypt or church floor would that usually show up in the Parish Burial Registers, or be shown separately?
The 1837 Selby Poor Law Union came under the Poor Law Commissioners and seemed to be the central administering place for the Selby locality, with 27 elected Guardians, giving 3 to Selby, according to a newspaper article.
By 1838 the 'Overseers of Poor' at Selby numbered four, one being George Hood, according to the newspaper.
Enquiry Made at York Cemetery
I spoke to the chap at York Cemetery opened 1837 and he was fairly confident some Hood's are buried there, so I have emailed for a September 1845 check.
Edit:
Other Checks
According to page 7 and to recap 'dobfarm' has kindly checked the Parish Registers of Selby (again), Barlby and Brayton, for September 1845 at the Borthwick.
Leeds University Collections claim they have no George Hood burial September 1845 in their transcribed electronic Selby Quaker records.
Thanks Mark
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Hi Mark,
Riccall is still in the registration district of Selby (its about 3 and 1/2 miles from Selby).
There was a Hood family living in the village of Baldersby which is near Harrogate.
Not 100 per cent sure but I think there maybe a memorial stone in St Crux church in York mentioning some Hoods, I will have a look when I get some time.
This link maybe of some help.
http://www.yorkcemetery.org.uk/genealogy/fsopen.htm
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Hi Mark,
Riccall is still in the registration district of Selby (its about 3 and 1/2 miles from Selby).
There was a Hood family living in the village of Baldersby which is near Harrogate.
Not 100 per cent sure but I think there maybe a memorial stone in St Crux church in York mentioning some Hoods, I will have a look when I get some time.
This link maybe of some help.
http://www.yorkcemetery.org.uk/genealogy/fsopen.htm
Hello Nettie
Oh thanks, yes please I would appreciate you looking in St Crux Church Room, York, when you get chance. I have been stuck for George Hood's September 1845 burial for years and I'm hoping it will possibly lead to an exact date of birth and that his burial place, might possibly be his birth Parish.
On the internet, I have noticed over the years, that two other different Hood branches on their family tree have got back to the 1815 Marriage of George Hood to Sarah Russel at Selby and gone no further back on the Hood side.
My George Hood of Selby death on 18 September 1845, is definitely different to the George Hood of Leeds, a former Soldier, who died earlier in September 1845.
Other George Hood's
There was a George Hood of the Grantham Arms, Milby in 1838.
George Hood of Langthorpe, Corn Merchant, in February 1845
George Hood of this town [in Leeds Newspaper 5 Dec 1835 and following a Bradford Obituary and following an Obituary "On Sunday last" ...] Same day, aged 14, Eleanor Hood, only daughter of Mr George Hood, of this town.
Kind regards Mark
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Riccall Question
Perhaps George Hood dying 18 September 1845 may have been distantly related to these Hood's at Riccall and might lie at Riccall and can anyone confirm this, please?
Have checked Riccall Burial Register - George is not buried there. MIs don't record any Hood
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If the records survived ???, as an overseer pre 1839 in Selby -George Hood the Overseer administrator, the parish may have kept personal records of George Hood with is birth parish and date of birth on the record.
These records were nothing more than bits & slips of paper kept in a shoe type box them days and all sorts can be found.
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Thanks for all the Replies and checking Riccall
Do you recall me mentioning that George Hood had appointed his friend Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby, as Arbitrator in his Will, (Proved 1846).
In light of George Hood being appointed 'Overseer of Poor' in 1838, you may be interested to know that a Jon. Hutchinson was later recorded as Chairman of the Selby Union Board, in a book by W. Wilberforce Morrell, under a small section titled Selby Poor Law Union.
I expect this connection with the Selby Union, could possibly explain the friendship in George's Will.
George's son John Hood married Sarah Richardson and a George Richardson was also an Overseer of Poor, in Selby.
I have made enquiries regarding any records of the 1838 Elections, of the Overseers of Poor in Selby, so I am hoping they survive and will reveal George Hood's birthplace and date.
Thanks, Mark
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Parish of birth (Big medicine those years) was the authority responsible for the people who was born in the said parish and even if they moved away to another, parish, city or town, this showed more for the parish responsibility of poor folk welfare but also in legal stuff for rich folk.
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Parish of birth (Big medicine those years) was the authority responsible for the people who was born in the said parish and even if they moved away to another, parish, city or town, this showed more for the parish responsibility of poor folk welfare but also in legal stuff for rich folk.
Thanks Goughy for looking at Riccall.
Hello dobfarm
Regarding Selby Gowthorpe and Wren Lane property Deeds, Mortgage/s might possibly reveal perhaps another family member elsewhere, lending George the money.
Poor Records - Selby
Regarding the Selby Parish Records (PR SEL) Overseers and Poor records, the Borthwick have the "Overseers of Poor Election" apparently dated 1837, specifically listed in an online Pdf of their records on microfilm. Hopefully, they might have original Election documents for 1838 too?
North Yorks Record Office, have under reference BG/SB Selby Board of Guardians Records
West Yorkshire Archive Service have some early 20th Century records under WRD 7/ and WRD 12/ relating to the Selby Union 1901, Memoranda and Statistics in relation to Guardians 1929 and a plan of the Selby Poor Law Institution 1930.
All the above have been emailed.
North Yorkshire County Council hold the plan, of the County Poor Law Institution - Selby (G Floor Plan 23)
Also West Yorkshire Archives, at Wakefield have records of the Selby Union dated 26 January 1837 and 11 December 1837 in their Quarter Sessions records under QE 5/ .
Also, the former Selby Institution has been through the NHS during the 20th Century. The Guardians Board Room is mentioned.
So I have asked the Borthwick for photocopies of the Selby 1837 'Overseers of Poor Election' and hopefully they have 1838 too? Perhaps George Hood may also have been elected the year before in 1837? But I wish to have copies of the 1837 (if no 1838 Overseers Election in Selby records), to see what general information they contain.
Kind regards, Mark
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London and Surrey Bond marriage bond allegation
17 August 1778
John Hood parish of Scarborough, a mariner Widower
to Sarah Hammond Widow (Does not say where she came from)
ref MS 10091E/91
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Sarah Hood — burial 1785 Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England ???
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John Hood X Jane Newby marriage: ???
3 November 1793
Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England
Hello All
Maudland Hood, a Spinster aged 20 years, married Charles Turner at Selby 27 November 1794 (checked on microfilm)
After seeing the above, I should like to confirm accuracy of and discover more about the following I have found in the Selby Parish Register Transcription (Yorks Archaeological Society):-
Selby 10 April 1795 Elizabeth Turner Baptised 1st daughter of Charles & Morland.
... "Morland dau of John Hood of Selby, Mariner by Elizth his wife, dau of John Spencer of Scarbro', Mariner. Born 6th Apl"
Transcription - Not checked.
Morland Hood or Maudland Hood was the daughter of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, with Elizabeth Spencer, whose Father was John Spencer of Scarborough.
There must be Marriage for John Hood & Elizabeth Spencer, before 1774 (as Maudland Hood was 20 when she married)?
George Hood - my 4 x Gt Grandfather
There is no Selby Birth, Baptism or Burial of George Hood, (1841 Census born Yorkshire), in the Selby Parish Register transcript. Also I cannot confirm if John Hood the Mariner was George Hood's father.
Captain, John Hood
Adverts dated 21 September 1778 in The Leeds Intelligencer newspaper of September and October 1778 indicates that the Ship called Brothers, Captain was John Hood, along with other ships in a list.
Also stopping at many Yorkshire places (named). A regular return of the said ships from Selby to London. From the Gun-and-Shot Wharfe, Southwark, London to Selby and York, the advert states.
Regards Mark
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Maudland was baptised in Scarborough 24 Dec 1775
Elizabeth possibly died in childbirth there is a burial in Scarborough on 24 December 1775 : Elizabeth wife of John Hood
Goughy
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London and Surrey Bond marriage bond allegation
Sarah Hood — burial 1785 Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England ???
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John Hood X Jane Newby marriage: ???
3 November 1793
Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England
The marriage of John Hood/Jane Newby marriage in Scalby 1793 states John's occupation as FARMER
The Sarah Hood burial 1785 is the daughter of "John and Jane"
Goughy
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Hello Goughy
Jane Hood wife of John Hood buried 1803 at Selby refers to John being a Mariner.
Thanks for that information, about Elizabeth Hood, wife of John Hood, burial in Scarborough on 24 December 1775.
According to the information gathered on John Hood the Mariner of Selby, he appears to be the same John Hood Mariner of Scarborough.
I suspect John Hood of Scarborough a Mariner met up with Sarah Hammond on one of his sailing Jollies to London.
A lot of background information is coming together on here for John Hood, the Mariner, but just got to track down the John Hood of Selby 1819 Will (cart before the horse research really), it is not in the Borthwick Volume.
If not, it's back to the drawing board, or back to George Hood!
The other possibility is, with George Hood the Tanner dying at Selby in September 1845 aged 63 years according to two newspapers, then the 16 October 1781 Birth and 20 October 1781 Baptism of George Hood at Topcliffe by Thirsk, cannot be ruled out, or did he die young?
I have printed off the three George Hood's born Yorkshire and still alive on the 1851 Census:-
aged 60[?] at Thimbleby and born Baldersby;
aged 60 at Langthorpe and born Milby;
aged 71 at Cawton and born Sessay;
so they can be ruled out as possibles.
Thanks Mark
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The marriage of John Hood/Jane Newby marriage in Scalby 1793 states John's occupation as FARMER
The Sarah Hood burial 1785 is the daughter of "John and Jane"
Goughy
Hello Goughy
Thank you for the updated information, I have noted that on my paper notes.
If John Hood was a Mariner throughout from 1778 to circa 1803 (when Jane wife of John Hood, Mariner, was buried at Selby), there could be another John and Jane marriage, but there might be a change of occupation (a gap in his sailing occupation)?
I'll try and attach the sailing.
Thanks for the update Mark
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Hello All
Regarding George Hood's September 1845 burial place.
Found this in the Hull Packet 23 June 1807, which left me wondering if the coasters and sailing vessels from Selby took the dead to other Yorkshire towns, or even a burial at Sea?
"On Thursday se'nnight, at Hembrough, after an illness of two years, Mr. Thomas Abbatt, for the last seventeen years agent at Selby, to the undertakers of the Aire and Calder Navigation."
Perhaps some of the dead in Selby were ferried by river to their last resting place of choice?
George Hood's wife, Sarah Hood who died in November 1879 does not appear to be buried in the Selby Churchyard. Also not listed in the Selby Cemetery records (opened about 1858), according to Selby Council.
Or, is the word 'undertaker' a business expression to undertake or perform certain duties for the company as an Agent?
http://collections.canalrivertrust.org.uk/bw91
I shall have to enquire on Monday.
Regards, Mark
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To take your mind in another direction..
We know George Hood d 1845 Selby, Cooper/Tanner had a bob or two (Money) in business- ??.
Likely Elizabeth Spencer John Hood's first wife died pre 1778 (Of Scarborough)
Therefore Sarah Hammond (Widow wife of Widower John Hood of Scarborough 1778) is likely by date to be George's mother if George was Capt, John Hood's son ?
Sarah Hammond (Maiden name unknown) her father could have left George his serious wealth in a Will.
Cooper/Tanner need a history of learning the trade to carry on in business, which does not come from Sea Captains but John Hood could have had his own wealth to pass down but not a trade in tanning.
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The Bonds & Allegations for marriage between John Hood and Sarah Hammond show that they were to be married at St Giles in the Fields Church, Middlesex. Sarah was living in the Parish of St Giles.
Another "out of the box" thought, as Edward Parker was a witness to George's Will, I make a huge assumption this is Edward Parker, Solicitor of Parker March Solicitors of Selby. May be worth getting in touch with the office and asking if they still hold, or know where, any archives relating to George Hood are? The Solicitor firm has merged over the years and is now Elmhirst Parker (still in the original offices of Parker March) Just a thought
G
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Could be coincidence and needs more searching for more info.
Richard Hood son of John and Elizabeth Hood Scarborough bapt 1766 ?
Richard Hood age 24 (B 1770) X Elizabeth aged 20 fathers name William Hale intent to marry 23rd April 1794 bond allegation
Richard Hood 1770 1794 Stamford Bridge - of Scarborough PC X Elizabeth Willifold
Timeline
John Hardcastle Jackson age 21 X Ann Hood age 20 Father Richard Hood - 8th July 1818 by intent of Bond allegation York.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXZ3-M9S
John Hardcastle Jackson father Richard X Ann Hood - 11th July 1818 were married Catton near York
1822 trades
Cooper
George Hood Wren Lane
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Tanners and Leather Dressers
Richard Jackson Gowthorpe
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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dBBKAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA1238&lpg=PA1238&dq=john+hardcastle+jackson&source=bl&ots=lbjc52-l6U&sig=YPMf2qCiz3Vyh7E8XeKEM9cX6J4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDAQ6AEwA2oVChMIprvnmceuyAIVA3k-Ch0mrwdA#v=onepage&q=john%20hardcastle%20jackson&f=false
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1829 Trades
Cooper- George Hood Wren Lane
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Tanners and Leather Dressers
John Jackson Gowthorpe
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1834 Trades
-No Cooper - George Hood Wren lane
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Tanners,
•Hood George, Gowthorpe
•Jackson Mary, Gowthorpe
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Ann Hood (and her sister Sarah) were baptised in Catton 1797 parents Richard & Elizabeth. Richard was a Merchant at Stamford Bridge
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Ann Hood (and her sister Sarah) were baptised in Catton 1797 parents Richard & Elizabeth. Richard was a Merchant at Stamford Bridge
Bond allegation 1818 (find my past free stuff) say Ann Hood came from Stamford bridge intended parish to marry Catton
River Derwent runs through Catton also Stamford Bridge and was navigable from the river Ouse that runs through Selby and York.
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Could be coincidence and needs more searching for more info.
Richard Hood age 24 (B 1770) X Elizabeth Willifold aged 20 fathers name William Hale intent to marry 23rd April 1794 bond allegations
Marriage Licence gives Richard's residence Stamford Bridge, Elizabeth Williford residence as Scarborough and intended place of marriage Scarborough
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Burial of Elizabeth Hood wife of Richard 6 March 1805 Catton
And then there is this Marriage Licence:
Richard Hood (B 1772) residence Stamford Bridge License date 7 April 1810 intended place of marriage St Lawrence York to Charlotte M Abel residence York
Burial of Charlotte Margaret Hood burial 1840 Catton
Looking at Census returns Richard Hood born 1772 (Seed & Wine & Spirit Merchant) is married to a Caroline Helen! Richard's birth place is given as LEVEN, Yorkshire. Caroline Helen died 1871. Richard buried Catton 27 March 1862
EDIT: No George birth in LEVEN on line
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Hi Goughy
Can you find anything on this John Hardcastle Jackson as occupation
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I'm struggling to find John Hardcastle Jackson on 1841 Census. He was buried in Catton 21 Feb 1849 (no occupation given). His son's baptism (his namesake) I can't read the occupation, he was living in Scoreby. Records on line suggest he was born in Pontefract.
Witnesses at his marriage were:
Elizabeth Jackson Wells Hood
Sarah Jackson Thomas Hood
Burton Richardson Susanna Hood
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Make what you will of this ? (Just posting as I find stuff now! It may mean something later or not)
Question:- Why did a George Hood a Cooper (a joiner cum blacksmith barrel maker) Wren Lane suddenly become a Tanner of Gowthorpe Selby with Jackson's and Hartley families
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Another connection with the Jacksn Tanners of Selby
◦FAITH ARUNDALE
Fifth Daughter of Matthew and Ann Arundale
Father = Matthew Arundale of Selby, Tanner, son of John Arundale of Selby aforesaid, Tanner, by Elizabeth his wife, daughter of William Stabbart of Selby aforesaid, Blacksmith
Mother = Ann daughter of John Jackson of Selby, Joiner, by Faith his wife, daughter of William Boan of Selby, Labourer
ADDRESSES:
Selby, Yorkshire (30 July & 03 August 1784)
http://quarlton.co.uk/ruth/tng/getperson.php?personID=I1164&tree=tree1
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George Hood's son James moved to Derbyshire. ?
Page 048c (140,164,H929.2/140)
http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/Inc-045.htm
JACKSON of Low Ackworth near Pontefract W[est] R[iding] Yorkshire
01 John JACKSON of Low Ackworth tanner he is believed to have come from
Beverley died the 8 Dec 1810 aet 49 leaving a widow & 9 children
02 Ann HUNTINGSHIRE died at Dronfield Co Derby
03 Richard JACKSON of Ackworth after of Selby tanner
He died Apr 11 1821 aet 31 years
04 Mary COLE of Ackworth died 9 Dec 1869 aet 85 bur Selby cemetary aet
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRQN-L9Y
John Hardcastle Jackson
Gender Male
Christening Date 25 Sep 1796
Christening Place PONTEFRACT,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name William Jackson
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
Regarding the change of occupation from Cooper to Tanner/Brewer. George Hood, a Cooper who married Sarah Russel at Selby in 1815 and died Selby 18 September 1845, apparently had eight children and according to the six found on the 1841 Census, John Hood was a Brewer at Wren Lane with George Hood (Jun'r):-
William Hood, baptised Selby 17 May 1816
John Hood, age given as 25 in 1841 was a Brewer (my 3 X Gt Grandfather), baptised Selby 06 June 1819
Mary Hood, baptised Selby 03 January 1822
George Hood, baptised Selby 20 May 1824
Richard Hood, circa 1826
James Hood, circa 1828
Ellen Hood, circa 1832
Sarah Hood, circa 1835
Searching Ancestry electronically and going through two parts of the Selby 1841 Census page by page, I cannot find William Hood or Richard Hood. Also two Hood offspring were omitted in Wren Lane, as they appear to be added at the end of one of the Selby parts by the Enumerator.
However, two offspring William and Richard Hood, of George Hood, the Cooper and Sarah Russel are still currently missing in the 1841 Selby Census?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=732366.msg5774293#msg5774293
(Couldn't post on Census Lookup, as it would not allow me to attach anything)
Found a third Yorkshire newspaper Deaths entry (by searching 'Deaths' and then the column in each newspaper from the 19th to the end of September 1845) for George Hood, Tanner, Selby, in the York Herald 20th Sept, again giving his age as 63 years.
A possible birth/ baptism for George Hood is in October 1781 at Topcliffe by Thirsk, to Joseph Hood and Ellen Spence? But still absolutely nothing to link my George Hood to Topcliffe and nothing in the Yorkshire Parish Register Society Selby Transcriptions, which I have purchased to suggest George Hood was born Selby.
I am currently trying to get a price to get Topcliffe Birth/Baptism Register copies of the Hood/Spence children. However it would seem that they were probably either dead or elsewhere by the 1841 Census, after attempting an 1841/1851 Census search? George Hood in 1841 at Selby is a possible child of theirs?
I presume George Hood's son/s got into Tanning and Brewing and the Coopering was dropped. I always understood Leeds to the West of Selby was a shoe manufacturing town and tanned leather would be in great demand.
Thanks for your input.
Mark
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Hello Dobfarm and Goughy
I have been trying to digest your posts.
In the Directory of Selby, by Edward Baines. Published in 1822 regarding George Hood, a Cooper and also Jackson, a Tanner it says:-
Coopers.
Farey John, Quay
Hood George, Wren Lane
Scawby George, Millgate
Tanners and Leather Dressers.
Hartley John, Gowthorpe
Jackson Richard, Gowthorpe
Although, in 1835 The Tourist's Companion from Leeds Through Selby to Hull, it says:-
Tanners.
Hood George, gowthorpe
Jackson Mary, gowthorpe
and
IGI for Yorkshire, surname Hood has:-
Ann Hood M. George Jackson 16 December 1816 at North Cave and
Ann Hood M. John Hardcastle Jackson 11 July 1818 at Catton near York
If I am assuming correctly, you are suggesting that there might be a connection regarding the Gowthorpe Tannery from a Jackson, possibly via Ann Hood to George Hood?
Regardless, whether there is, or not, I have had an email back with a price for each copy of those Registry Deeds, which seems very reasonable, explaining how to order them online and you have already confirmed that there are Deeds with the year dates for George Hood at both Gowthorpe and Wren Lane.
I will go ahead tomorrow and get them ordered, they may / may not hold vital clues.
Thanks for you suggestions, Mark
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The main point about George Hood was the questions of his roots and where his wealth (paper trail ) came from ? was he an apprentice trained trade craftsman in any of these trades as a cooper, brewer or tanner, or was he a businessman who just owned the firm business with trade craftsmen working for him. Brewing and copper barrel maker for the brew could have been the same business at Wren lane Selby. If George had a (his mothers maternal side or her mother) grandmother/mother/sister/cousin/aunty or wife Sarah's family in laws who's deceased husband had been a tanner, then George could have run the business for her or made it part of the Hood Wren lane business.
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Hello Dobfarm and Goughy
Thanks for responses.
In the 1814 Selby Land Tax records, George Hood is shown as paying 2 Shillings 4 & 1/2 pence and Mr Petre is the Proprietor (printed off). If I recall, the c.1810 Selby Land Tax are also online and "George Hood" appears there too.
Baines 1822 Directory for Selby, under 'Coopers' puts George Hood at Wren Lane.
Regarding Wren Lane, George Hood was an "occupier" of Two Dwelling Houses, a Carpenter's Shop and Yard, in Lot 15 and his undertenants and a John Green, according to an 1835 Auction Sale advert.
Unless he took risks and had the 'Midas touch', as you say he possibly inherited, for which we hope there is a surviving paper trail, back to relatives, as it appears according to his Will (Proved 1846) he owned property at Wren Lane and Gowthorpe.
John Todd
In 1798 John Todd owned a Tan-Yard, dwelling house, yards and pits at Gowthorpe, Selby.
S E L B Y.
To be SOLD,
Or LETT for a TERM of YEARS,
(To Enter to Immediately,)
A FREEHOLD MESSUAGE or DWELLING HOUSE, in complete Repair, situate in Gowthorpe, Selby, in the County of York, wherein Mr. John Todd, Tanner, now lives, with the Barn, Stable, Bark-Mill and Leather-Room, and Chambers over the same, Drying-Shed, and Tan-Yard containing Twenty-six Pits, and other Conveniences and Appurtenances thereunto belonging.
For further Particulars apply to the said John Todd; or at Mr. Eadon's Office, in Selby aforesaid.
October 16th, 1798
When searching for a possible William Hood (son of George Hood) in the 1841 Census, I came across this William Hood living with a Todd family at:-
Cottingham
Harland Wood House
Robert Todd, aged 50, Farmer, Born same County Y
Jane Todd, aged 52, Y
John Todd, aged 18, Y
Elizabeth Todd, aged 20, Y
Hannah Todd, aged 15, Y
Mary Todd, aged 10, Y
John Todd, aged 65, Y, Ind
William Hood, aged 25, M.S., Y
Allen Jackson, aged 3, Border ['Border' struck out], Y
Whether, there might be a Todd, Hood, Jackson connection, to my George Hood, I cannot say?
Cloughton in 1841
In 1841 at Cloughton there was also a William Hood, aged 25, living with a John Hood, a Farmer aged 70, with wife (I presume) Janie Hood aged 70, with Alice Hood aged 30 and another John Hood, aged 71.
Comments
I definitely agree that ordering the Deeds now, is a must, to see if that leads to other family relationships.
The Worshipful Company of Coopers, London have responded regarding their records and apparently those held in the Guildhall Library / London Metropolitan Archive, relate to London.
Thanks and kind regards Mark
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Hi Mark,
Have you checked for miss-transcribed Wood for Hood surnames in any format in Newspapers, Bapt's Marr and burials MI's or any records
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It would suggest/seem something happened between 1822 and 1829 when George got into tanning.
Going by your info of the size of the tannery property and the tanks/pits that can take upto a year soak the leathers that I have seen in/on TV programme doc's over the years. Therefore its a well established business to suddenly get to and if George had bought into the business ? surely there would be advertisements of it sale or portion of the business for sale around 1820's in newspapers otherwise George must have had connections to the business by family and some knowledge of the business everyday running of the mill so to speak.
( Its like asking a demolition explosive expert in to judge a knitting completion at the village fair ;D to equal George getting into tanning without prior knowledge of the business running involvement needed )
The 1829 Trades Directory
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/Selby29Dry.html
Brewers & Maltsters
Wood George. Wren lane
Coopers
Hood George. Wren lane
Tanners,
Hartley John, Gowthorpe
Jackson John, Gowthorpe
1834 Selby trades Directory.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/Selby34Dry.html
Only mention is
Tanners,
Hood George, Gowthorpe
Jackson Mary, Gowthorpe
The 1837 Selby trades Directory.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/Selby37Dry.html
Under 'Miscellany of trades'
Hood Jno, tanner Gtp {Gowthorpe)
under 'Brewers and Maltsters'
Hood Geo. Wren Lane
Under 'Tanners'
Hood Geo. Gowthorp
Jackson MaryGtp
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Yorkshire Gazette 4th September 1830
SELBY.
To be SOLD by PRIVATE CONTRACT,
FOUR-FIFTH PARTS or SHARES of and
in a MESSUAGE, with the Warehouses and
other Outhouses and Appurtenances, now occupied by
Joseph Audus, situate in Gowthorpe, in Selby, in the
County of York; also two adjoining Cottages or Tene-
ments, occupied by Richard Nutt and Richard Web-
ster, with the Yard and large Garden belonging to,
and occupied with, the above Premises.
The Property is Freehold, has an extensive Front
towards the Street, and is entitled to two Pews in the
Parish Church of Selby.
For further Particulars, apply to Messrs. BLAN-
CHARD and RICHARDSON, Solicitors, York.
I have received my Deeds searches reply and ordered the supplied references. The sale of four out of five shares in a tenement in Gowthorpe, which is divided into three between Hannah Woodcock, George Hood and others. Registered 1831.
I was amused regarding the entitlement to two Church Pews in the Parish Church of Selby, was acquired through purchase!
Regarding Jno Hood, John Hood, Tanner, was George Hood's Son.
Mark
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Its looking like George Hood may have just bought share parts in an ongoing tannery business then and having no particular family connection of other partners in the business other than his later own children.
J H Jackson master mariner Selby went bankrupt 1810- check newspapers.
Bearing in mind any John Hardcastle Jackson
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Maudland Hood Christened Scarborough 24 December 1774 who married Charles Turner, a Blacksmith, at Selby 27 November 1794.
Charles Turner, Blacksmith was aged 24 when he married in November 1794, giving him a birth date of about 1770.
I have found in three May 1851 newspapers that a Charles Turner died at Selby aged 80 and probably likely to be Maudland Hood's husband.
I believe, I have found the same Charles Turner in the 1851 Census at Selby:-
Selby Poor Law Union Workhouse
Charles Turner, Inmate, Widr, Aged 81, Blacksmith, born Yorkshire South Kirby.
1) I would really like to know when Maudland Turner died, as I want to see the exact information recorded in the death entry, whether it be a Parish Register, or getting another GRO Certificate? A George Hood, Hood could have been present at death, with the relationship given?
2) When Elizabeth Turner, 1st daughter was baptised 10 April 1795 (according to the Selby Parish Register transcriptions), her parents were given as Charles and Morland, Selby, Blacksmith.
The transcriptions, number the following sons and daughters born to Charles Turner, a Blacksmith, also a Whitesmith and a Foundryman. They must have had at least nine children.
However, the 1st son and the 2nd, 3rd daughters births are not listed in the Selby transcriptions, suggesting they were born elsewhere?
I should like to know when Maudland died and where, most likely as a Turner, surname?
Thanks Mark
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Hi Mark
Seems you will be "out of luck" with death certificates.
There is this burial recorded in Selby Abbey records
Mordland Turner (born 1774) buried 27 Oct 1830 Age at death 56
Goughy
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If this George did not die by 1815 then John is unlikey to be George's dad unless your George is fibbing about his age on 1841c and to the person who record his Death 1845
Baptism George Hood son of John & Elizabeth Hood 1771 Scarborough (BT's)
Can't find a death for this George as infant or adult before 1815
Is
Spencer rings a bell
From familysearch website
George Hood X Maudlin Spencer either married in York 12 Jan 1731
or Bond allegation intent to marry held at York
baptism - William Hood son of George and Maudlin 1741 Sarborough (BT's)
baptism - Richard Hood son of George and Magdalene 1745 Sarborough (BT's)
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Spencer rings a bell
From familysearch website
George Hood X Maudlin Spencer either married in York 12 Jan 1731
or Bond allegation intent to marry held at York
baptism - William Hood son of George and Maudlin 1741 Sarborough (BT's)
baptism - Richard Hood son of George and Magdalene 1745 Sarborough (BT's)
Thanks Goughy and dobfarm.
No death entries in newspapers searched, so no further info about Mordland's death.
Apparently the transcriptions regarding Maudland Hood say ... Morland dau of John Hood of Selby, Mariner by Elizabeth his wife, dau of John Spencer of Scarbro'.
Kind regards, Mark
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Hi Mark
Seems you will be "out of luck" with death certificates.
There is this burial recorded in Selby Abbey records
Mordland Turner (born 1774) buried 27 Oct 1830 Age at death 56
Goughy
I wonder if Maudland alias Mordland Turner left a Will, or Admon? I'll make enquiries, if nothing in Deed copies.
It is interesting that Gowthorpe was advertised 4th September 1830.
Mordland Turner (nee Maudland Hood) is buried 27 Oct 1830.
George Hood completes a transfer, in a share of property at Gowthorpe in 1831.
Of course, it could be a coincidence. Should also get Deeds Registry copies in next few days.
Thanks Mark
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Don't think you saw this
If this George did not die by 1815 then John is unlikey to be George's dad unless your George is fibbing about his age on 1841c and to the person who recorded his Death 1845
Baptism --- George Hood son of John & Elizabeth Hood 1771 Scarborough (BT's)
Can't find a death for this George as infant or adult before 1815
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Hello dobfarm
Thanks.
I have wondered if Maudland Hood was a half sister to my George Hood.
I think we considered that John Hood parish of Scarborough, Mariner, a Widower possibly remarried Sarah Hammond, a Widow, due to a London and Surrey Bond Allegation, 17 August 1778, ref MS 10091E/91 you found, whether she was young enough to have a child is unknown.
Also that an Elizabeth Hood (John Hood's wife?) died around the time of Maudland Hood's baptism 24 December 1775.
Kind regards Mark
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Baptism --- George Hood son of John & Elizabeth Hood 1771 Scarborough (BT's)
Can't find a death for this George as infant or adult before 1815
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The following two George Hood with father John buried Scarborough (no age given)
Burial: 17 Feb 1772
Burial 3 Sept 1778
Goughy
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This is a very long shot
If John had lost two George infants with Elizabeth maybe his first child with Sarah is George
marries Sarah 1778
See if you can find anything in newspapers of a Capt John Hood shipping at Pool harbour, in Dorset (George bapt in Studland { on coast near Pool harbour entrance], Dorset, England 1778-1st Feb 1779 March to March Year, father John mother Sarah Hood)
Iffy but dates fit
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This is a very long shot
If John had lost two George infants with Elizabeth maybe his first child with Sarah is George
marries Sarah 1778
See if you can find anything in newspapers of a Capt John Hood shipping at Pool harbour, in Dorset (George bapt in Studland { on coast near Pool harbour entrance], Dorset, England 1778-1st Feb 1779 March to March Year, father John mother Sarah Hood)
Iffy but dates fit
Looking at Census returns it suggests George Hood born 1778 Studland to John Hood and Sarah Mitchell lived all his life in Studland and was buried 1870
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Thank you Goughy and dobfarm
The deed registry copies have arrived and regarding the September 1830 advertisement (italics):-
SELBY.
To be SOLD by PRIVATE CONTRACT,
FOUR-FIFTH PARTS or SHARES of and
in a MESSUAGE, with the Warehouses and
other Outhouses and Appurtenances, now occupied by
Joseph Audus, situate in Gowthorpe, in Selby, in the
County of York; also two adjoining Cottages or Tene-
ments, occupied by Richard Nutt and Richard Web-
ster, with the Yard and large Garden belonging to,
and occupied with, the above Premises.
The Property is Freehold, has an extensive Front
towards the Street, and is entitled to two Pews in the
Parish Church of Selby.
For further Particulars, apply to Messrs. BLAN-
CHARD and RICHARDSON, Solicitors, York.
Just before George Hood died in 1845, the Gowthorpe dwelling house was converted into three separate dwellings.
There are six Deeds in total for property, Messuage, cottages, warehousing, yards, gardens, orchard, off Town Lane, Ousegate, Gowthorpe and Wren Lane, sadly no plans.
George Hood was a Brewer and in the late 1820s was already running a brewery in Selby according to Directories.
1831
I was led to believe a Lease and Release was basically a Sale or Transfer document, [but I am not a Lawyer] and there are a number of names, which include former owners.
EDIT:- In 1831 The property had transferred from Hannah Woodcock widow, Hannah Clark before marriage, other Clark members and Mason members, John Dickinson only son of William Dickinson and Martha his wife before her marriage she was a Martha Clark, to "George Hood of Selby" "Brewer":-
A Thomas Eabon it seems with others, also makes a Release to Hannah Woodcock and there are yet more names mentioned.
Indenture of Lease by the said George Hood and of the said Indenture of Release by the said Thomas Eabon and George Hood are respectively witnessed by John Nowood ["Wood" struck out and changed to "Nowood"] of Snaith in the said County of York.
George Hood
Witnessed by John Norwood / Sworn
John Limes
Basically in 1831, the Deed is listed in the margin as Woodcock & Ors to Hood.
Regards Mark
Further EDIT: it is likely, looking at old newspapers that Thomas Eabon is Thomas Eadon of Selby.
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Some basics
What county was George born in on the 1841c age 50
Did George's wife Sarah sign her own name on the 1815 parish marriage register, if she gave the 1841c info about George to the census recorder, then if she was educated, then info is likely to be correct.
John Hood died 1819 aged 82 = born estimated 1737, going by his childrens baptisms He married Elizabeth Spencer around 1760 ish.
John Hood going by his age could be most likely George's granddad
George was 28 in 1815 bond allegation age = b 1787
George on 1841c age 50 to 54 = b 1787 to 1791
George death 1845 aged 60 to 63 going by death certificate and newspaper deaths - b 1782 to 1785
Its just possible one of John Hood's boys born/bapt between 1760 and 1772 of mother Elizabeth Spencer could be George's father.
Time needed to make or create wealth in businesses
John Hood would have some modest wealth as a ship captain but living to aged 82 as old man would have depleted his wealth and diluted further in his Will divided up between his family, thus George would not have that big a share of the estate as a son or grandson.
Either George was a self made man by 1815 aged 28 marriage to Sarah or George's father ? was a self made man in business, and George's father was the son of Capt John hood
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Hello Dobfarm
George was born in same County on the 1841 Census and age written could either be 50 or a 58, occupation Brewer. I noticed a few older ages in Yorkshire generally in 1841 are not rounded.
Sarah Russell did sign her own name on the 1815 parish marriage register.
John Hood buried 4 April 1819 aged 82.
George Hood of Selby was 28 on the 16 May 1815 document when he makes a sworn Oath and Sarah Russel is 21 and upwards of the same place. The 16th May 1815 document where he makes the standard (printed) £200 and now Licensed has no age given.
They don't marry until 18 July 1815, when they are married by Licence, by John Turner, Curate and George's age is entered as 28.
George Hood died 18 September 1845 and aged 60 on the Death Certificate (from Selby Registry Office, so not a scan of the original entry) and three Newspaper Deaths, give his age as 63 years.
Thanks Mark
EDIT: if 63 years at Death was correct, then the 1781 Birth/Baptism of George Hood to Joseph Hood and Ellen Spence, Topcliffe, is a possibility?
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Best check to see the occupation and his wealth of father Joseph Hood in any resources or Will/probate
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The baptism in 1781 Topcliffe gives "Joseph Hood of Asenby, Labourer son of Joseph Hood of Melmerby Farmer and Ellen Spence dau of George Spence Burneston, Taylor"
I too have had a "lets get back to basics moment" George and Sarah's children are:
William b 1816
John b 1819
Mary b 1822
George b 1824
Richard b 1826
James b 1828
Ellen b 1830
Sarah b 1835
Now, if they named their children, as most did at that time after father's mothers etc., somewhere in there could possibly be the names of George's parents. Sarah's father was William, a Sailor. What was her mother's names and did she have any brother or sisters? Just to try and eliminate some names. Acknowledge not a foolproof way, but sometimes leads to something. We also have to acknowledge that not all baptisms are "on line" and some Parish Registers are damaged or no longer exist. BTs on line are not always a "true" record (unfortunately) and there is no substitute at looking at the actual records.
Goughy
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I think the Topcliffe George was the sergeant in the army.
From familysearch I notice John Hood and Elizabeth Spencer wife of John, block baptised 3 boys in one session in 1766 being Richard, William and Christopher (Unless triplets ) and being a mariner that makes sense.
Therefore if Sarah of London was John Hood's 2nd wife did they baptise George years after his birth with other children.
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Hello Goughy and Dobfarm
Thank you very much for all your comments.
I have been looking at the July 1815 Marriage announcement in the newspaper for George Hood (my 4 times Gt Grandfather) and it was apparently only in The Hull Packet, newspaper. Of course, The Hull Packet may have had an Agent at Selby.
However, if George Hood's family were from one of these Hood clusters North of York:-
a) Yafforth-Ellerbeck-Osmotherley-Thimbleby (Northallerton area)
b) Burneston-Sutton Howgrave-Baldersby-Topcliffe-Sessay (between Ripon and Thirsk)
c) Kirby Hill-Milby-Boroughbridge-Langthorpe (Ripon to Knaresborough area)
then I would have thought that the York newspapers, such as the York Herald or Yorkshire Gazette would have been the newspaper to announce the Marriage event?
In February 1830 Skipwith Hall 5 miles from Selby was being let by a Mr Hood from Nettleham Hall, near Lincoln and according to family notices in newspapers the Hoods at Yafforth Hall and Yafforth Lodge were also linked to Hood of Nettleham Hall. However, bear in mind, I have nothing to suggest my George Hood was linked to the Nettleham Hood's who had apparently migrated to Yorkshire. Their connections/interests in Yafforth and Skipwith (early 19th Cent.), near Northallerton and Selby must have changed hands later. It seems Nettleham Hall near Lincoln burnt down in the 1930s and only basic records and photocopies survive.
Back to the Hull area, when George Hood (my 4 x Gt Grandfather), son John Hood (who took on the Selby Tannery interests) got married 16 August 1846 at St Mary's Church in the Parish of Sculcoates, Yorks, to Sarah Richardson, she was already expecting George Hood (my Two times Gt Grandfather, who was born 1 January 1847 at Selby). The Richardsons were very popular at Selby and I had always assumed that perhaps she had been bannished to the Parish of Sculcoates.
On the GRO Certificate, the residence at the time of Marriage for John Hood, Tanner, Batchelor was the Parish of Selby and Sarah Richardson, Spinster, was the Parish of Sculcoates 16 August 1846. Of course Miss Sarah Richardson could still be living with the Richardson family, on her own, or with a Hood family member in the Parish of Sculcoates.
However, after considering the George Hood (my 4 times Gt Grandfather's) 1815 marriage announcement, which only seems to be in The Hull Packet newspaper, I began wondering if Sarah Richardson was residing temporary with a Hood in the Parish of Sculcoates to conceal her pregnancy. Once John Hood (my 3 times Gt Grandfather) married Sarah Richardson at Sculcoates, they obviously were together and back in Selby for the birth of my 2 x times Gt Grandfather George Hood on 1st January 1847.
George Hoods on 1851 Census, which can be Ruled Out
I have downloaded 4 pages of the 1851 Census for the following George Hoods:-
Appleton le Street 1851, George Hood, Head, Marr (Ann Hood wife 77), 73, Agricultural Labourer, born Sutton Howgrave, Yorks.
Cawton 1851, George Hood, Head, Widower, 71, Ag'l La'br, born Sessay, Yorks.
Thimbleby 1851, George Hood, Head, Widower, 60, Farm Labourer, born Baldersby, Yorks.
Langthorpe 1851, George Hood, Head, Widower, 60, Farmer, 69 acres and 4 Labourers, born Milby, Yorks.
Regards Mark
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Hi Mark
I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the Hull Packet announcement, my great grandparents diamond wedding was reported in the Hull Daily Mail in 1933 and lived in Riccall with no connection to Hull.
It may perhaps, for the purposes of elimination, be worth considering a trawl of the Scarborough Parish Records - (very few on line at the moment) and held at East Riding Archives, Beverley.
Goughy
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So far the Scarborough to Selby link! is Maudlin Hood and Captain John Hood, (No positive proof George Hood d 1845 as yet was the same family of Hood's of Scarborough) being the navigation of the river Ouse and the North sea the common link and same with Selby to Hull/York as newspapers.
With George having a few bob (money), them Hall links with Lincolnshire seem interesting.
Though its far out of my area range to visit, maybe a look at deeds index at Beverley archives for any George deeds pre 1815 in the East riding. Post a request on the East Riding board as someone may live near the archives - worth a try.
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
Thank you for your comments. Yes I agree, the only way for me to nail this now, is for us to visit some archives and libraries in Yorks. My hobby is local history, as our housing estate and surrounding fields are on two ancient Manors.
Collinson to Elly - Ann Elly, Spinster of the City of York and George Hood of Selby
The second Deed, now being re-read indicates Petre [Lord of the Manor], has apparently sold the property called Ousegate to James Collinson of Selby and a William Collinson and George Hood of Selby and Ann Elly, a Spinster of the City of York and Edward [?] of Selby.
Selby was a Manor, so I'm thinking of tracing surviving Manorial Mss too, as it seems George is involved in purchasing parts of the Manor, with others, in the early 18th Century sell-off, of parts.
Regards Mark
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I think the Topcliffe George was the sergeant in the army.
From familysearch I notice John Hood and Elizabeth Spencer wife of John, block baptised 3 boys in one session in 1766 being Richard, William and Christopher (Unless triplets ) and being a mariner that makes sense.
Therefore if Sarah of London was John Hood's 2nd wife did they baptise George years after his birth with other children.
Hello dobfarm and Goughy
****STOP PRESS****
Yes, Spencer is almost certainly the key and I believe you are right, I am most pleased at both your continuing efforts and contributions to my post, also to BumbleBee for the 1819 John Hood Parish Register entry!!
Managed to find photographs, of the actual 1795 Selby Land Tax Records on Ancestry and the part for the town says this, for "Mr Hood" an Occupier:-
Proprietor Occupier
M' Spencer 1st Ten'mt Mr Hood
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In 1795 Mr Hood was occupying at least one of two Tenements in Selby, owned by a Spencer.
I'll ask for a Will search for Spencer and apply for a copy, if no Will, definitely a Deeds search and application in the name of Spencer.
I'll let you know, what I uncover!
Many, many thanks Mark
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Multi batpisms William, Richard and Christopher 1766 Scarborough of John and Elizabeth Hood (Spencer)
Its possible William b 1761 is Capt John Hood's son and same William b 1761 is possible George's Dad
Bond Allegation York 1782
William Hood age 21 (b 1761) of residence ST Bennet's parish ? X Ann Comber age 23 of residence Wakefield parish 10th Dec 1782 intended place to marry Wakefield parish
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Parish marriage record says St Bennets in the County of Middlesex
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Parish marriage record says St Bennets in the County of Middlesex
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St Martin in the field London 1778 John Hood of Scarborough marriage intent to marry Sarah Hammond
next parish
William Hood residing St Benet Gracechurch London, 1782 intent to marry Ann Comber Wakefield
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Parish marriage record says St Bennets in the County of Middlesex
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St Martin in the field London 1778 John Hood of Scarborough marriage intent to marry Sarah Hammond
next parish
William Hood residing St Benet Gracechurch London, 1782 intent to marry Ann Comber Wakefield
Thank you dobfarm and Goughy
Regarding my find in the 1795 Selby Land Tax Records and the part for the town which states this, for "Mr Hood" an Occupier:-
Proprietor Occupier
M' Spencer 1st Ten'mt Mr Hood
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are you able to find a possible death/burial date please, for John Spencer, a Mariner of Scarborough and this Mr Spencer, a proprietor of the two Selby Tenements? Thank you.
I can then try ordering a Will/s.
About 50 years ago, when I was a boy, I vaguely remember by Grandmother coming to see us in England, after going to Scarborough for her holidays a couple of times.
The vessel "Brothers" Captain John Hood was plying its trade from Selby to the Gun and Shot Wharfe, Southwark, London, to York and Selby in 1778, for Messrs Perkins and Robinson, who had Agents in Wakefield, Leeds, Mr William Brooke in Selby, York and at Salter-Hebble, near Halifax.
John Hood was Captain of at least 3 Coasters and Brigs and in November 1782 John Hood, was Master of the 100 tons Brig called the 'Mary of Inverness', lying at Newcastle Quay. Particulars of the vessel could be got from "Thomas Snaith, at the Office of William Chapman, feu. in the Folly, Newcastle."
"Inventories to be seen as above, and at Mr Thomas Wate's, North Shields."
(print is poor, could be Thomas Ware, North Shields.)
Noted on the 16 February 1777, that John Hood had sailed, Hull for Sunderland on the York Union.
If 63 years is correct for George Hood at death in 1845 and if his mother was on the boat, George could have been born on a vessel.
Thanks for the suggestions, I've got some ordering to do, but I'm after the Spencer/s Will/s first, so possible death dates would be helpful, please?
Kind regards Mark
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The broad canal locks of the river Ouse York, river Calder Wakefield, river Aire Leeds navigation's and river Don Sheffied/Doncaster could take certain size sea going small ship boats (seaside resort harbour type fishing boat size like Bridlington/Scareborough) and still do.
Your granny going to Scarborough 50 years ago as any family history connection in her visits there- its possible but doubtful as everybody working class in the 1950/60's went to either Morecambe, Blackpool, Cleethorpes, Bridington and Scarborough in bus/coach loads on Saturday's (like the old west wagon train cowboy days) in July and August. Richest school kids in the land ;D living at the seaside with their box carts carrying suitcases to the bus parks on a morning and to guesthouses in the afternoons. The excitement atmosphere was buzzing and you can't achieve or buy that today even with posh holidays abroad as we did not have much like spoilt kids have today, them days ! but sure as heck !! enjoyed what we had better. :D
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RANDOM finding - may or may not be relevant
John Spencer - Gentleman burial Selby 28 Nov 1809 (birth 1734)
Probate Jan 1810
Document type Will
Document reference vol.154, f.190
Index reference 1809061814090258.tif/22
Goughy
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Someone else has also come up with 1795 birth year for George. Goughy it needs checking out
though !!
St Benet and Blackfriars is the same place
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/St+Benets+Metropolitian+Welsh+Church/@51.511696,-0.099158,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xdbcf6ade0024b0bf
With my own research and online tree research website and help from BumbleB member.
John Hood aged 25 married Elizabeth Leppington aged 26 on the 8th Dec 1763 Scarborough aged 25
William Hood son of John and Elizabeth Hood baptism 1766 in Scarborough with brothers Richard and Christopher
William Hood- 21 of St Bennets, Middlesex and Ann Comber- 18 of Wakefield. Intended venue Wakefield PC, date of licence 10 December 1782. Marriage entry for 11 December 1782 Wakefield does not add anything else.
Mary Ann Maw (Maudlin ?) Hood of Willam and Ann Hood birth 6 January 1784 baptism 3 February 1784 SAINT BENET PAULS WHARF, LONDON, ENGLAND
George Hood son of William and Ann Hood 5th of April 1795 ST ANN BLACKFRIARS , LONDON, ENGLAND
http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/f/r/a/Rebecca-J-Frazier-Te/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0106.html
I suspect George Hood's age was at marriage was 20 not 28 in 1815
John Hood married Elizabeth Leppington 1763
Elizabeth Spencer before 1775
Sarah Hammond London 1778
Jane (nee ???? ) -Hood death 1803 Selby
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RANDOM finding - may or may not be relevant
John Spencer - Gentleman burial Selby 28 Nov 1809 (birth 1734)
Probate Jan 1810
Document type Will
Document reference vol.154, f.190
Index reference 1809061814090258.tif/22
Goughy
Hello Goughy and dobfarm
Thank you.
Inland Revenue extract of the Will dated 1810, lists relatives and the amounts TNA, Kew reference IR 26/433/37 for John Spencer of Selby, Yorkshire.
John Spencer of Selby is the Testator and John Spencer of Conisbrough Park is the Executor, Joseph Spencer is in the Legatee column and some relationships are noted, with names and the amounts, but I don't recognise the surnames as being linked to us:-
Collet
Rishworth
Depledge
England
Webster (although a Webster appears as a Tenant at Selby)
In 1800 the Proprietor at Selby was Mr Spencer and Mr Hood and Mr Spencer were occupying the adjacent properties at Selby in 1800, comparing it, to the earlier Selby Tax Assessment of 1795.
John Spencer in the Will of 1810, is likely different to John Spencer the Mariner of Scarborough, but thank you for the kind suggestion.
I am going to limit my Deeds enquiry to a search first.
Yes, dobfarm, I think we had a better life, than the young have today! When my father bought our first terraced house with a Mortgage, the Car Factory workers were on twice as much, but we had breakfast and Mum still had a proper healthy cooked meal ready each day, with a pudding once our dinner was finished. We still had a two week holiday each year in England, times were really hard, but we learnt thrift.
We rode our cycles, did several hours homework each day, had a den and in the Summer were out, meeting our mates, across the fields, or in the brook.
Regards Mark
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Start looking at the Leppington's
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Baptisms at St Benets to William and Ann Hood: (no occupation of father given) Obviously the Comber in the name indicates it's Willam and Ann who married Wakefield. (no occupation given on marriage certificate)
Mary Ann Maw Hood 1784
Dorothy Arbuthnot Hood 1785
William Hood 1786
Harriet Comber Hood 1789
Thomas Eddington Hood 1791
William Comber Hood 1793
Baptisms in St Ann's Blackfriars (no occupation of father)
George Hood 1795
Charles Hood 1810
Goughy
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William's Will/probate or admin should be interesting
MORNING POST Tuesday May 13th 1817
Stamford Street Blackfiars-Furnature, Cellar of wines and effects by WINSTANLEY and sons on the premises of no 9 Bennet Street, Stamford Street on Thursday 15th inst at eleven by order of the executors
THE neat HOUSEHOLD FURNATURE, cellar of choice wines, linen and effects of William Hood esq. deceased, comprising four post tent bedstead, with cotton hangers, seasoned beds ;D, and bedding, french window curtains, dining room do, an excellent set of dining tables, ten feet by by 4 feet 9 inches, and parlour chairs and sofas.
Turkey and other carpets, wardrobe and chests of drawers, a Mirror, 8 days dial: Kitchen requisites(?) and other articles: also 120 dozen of old port, 19 dozen of Madeira and 5 dozen of scotch ale.
To be viewed on Wednesday preceding and morning of sale. when catalogues may be had on premises and Winstanley and sons, Paternoster row.
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The Will is on Ancestry to read.
Goughy
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Its in Mark's court now.
The William Hood 1816 to 1817 Will may answer if this is another dead end ??? of not with George as it all down to George's year of birth-? and where he got all his wealth from.
John Hood died 82 (b 1737) in 1819 and George only supposed 28 (or 20) in 1815 suggest there was/is a generation in-between John d 1819 and George d 1845 if there is a connection ?
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Baptisms at St Benets to William and Ann Hood: (no occupation of father given) Obviously the Comber in the name indicates it's Willam and Ann who married Wakefield. (no occupation given on marriage certificate)
Mary Ann Maw Hood 1784
Dorothy Arbuthnot Hood 1785
William Hood 1786
Harriet Comber Hood 1789
Thomas Eddington Hood 1791
William Comber Hood 1793
Baptisms in St Ann's Blackfriars (no occupation of father)
George Hood 1795
Charles Hood 1810
Goughy
Hello Goughy and dobfarm
Thanks for your research and these inputs and the suggestion of a Will for a William Hood of circa 1817, I'll be looking that up at our Library, definitely.
Regarding Rebecca Frazier's site and a birth date of c.1795 with no supporting death date for George Hood, I have seen identical information on the net before.
There has been a past attempt it seems to link George Hood to Nobility, or Gentry.
However, I feel that this may have arisen, because when my George Hood of Selby, Brewer, Tanner etc., purchased parts of the Manor, a 'George Hood' was one of the parties who had to sign a Release, so that the Lease and Release (Sale) could be made.
Petre & O'rs To Hood
The Right Honourable William Henry Francis Lord Petre and the Honourable Henry Charles Howard commonly called the Earl of Surrey and the Honourable Edward Robert Petre late of Stapleton Park in the County of York, but now residing in Brussels, [sold parts] To George Hood of Selby in the County of York, Brewer.
Comments
I was aware that a George Hood had rented parts of the Manor from the Lords and then sub-let it to his 'Undertenants' (various Trades & Merchants).
But when Rt. Hon Petre, Hon Howard and Hon Petre now of Brussels wanted to sell parts, the aforementioned owners, also a George Hood, Charles Henry Pigot of Great Marlborough Street in the County of Middlesex, Gentleman and some other named Merchants had to sign a Release, before George Hood of Selby, Brewer purchased those parts of the Manor in Wren Lane and Miclegate, Selby.
I am presuming that the same 'George Hood' one of the parties signing the Release, was the very same George Hood, Brewer of Selby who was purchasing parts.
Kind regards, Mark
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William Hood Will 1817- had a bob or two
Hard to read but William's wife is Ann Hood and had a son called William Comber Hood, daughter Mary Ann M Hood and Willaim Hood deceased of the Will owned a Wharf at Earls street (that's at Blackfriars Southwark, London) and left his son George some money-lots of it
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The Hoods were Iron Merchants and manufacturers of ammunition for the government in the Wharf at Earl Street, and Charles & Thomas continued the business. William was a wholesale bookseller and publisher. All described as Esq and gentlemen. There are a few Merchants with the name George Hood in London but I can't pin down a link to William Hood.
G
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We'll have to try to see if this George Hood bapt 1795 birth year unknown, of William Hood and Ann Comber of Wakefield, had any history in London like marriage, census and death/burial (newspapers) to try to eliminate him.
If Not-?
If nothing comes up to eliminate, what are the likely chances its George of Selby d 1845 as we had two death ages 60 and 63, George Death age 1845 GRO is likely to be the one iffy coming from an informant
Census age 1841 seems most likely best yard stick for George's age( +/- Ie 49 but near enough to say 50 in business, older makes one sound wiser as elder in the cummunity) 50 of Selby. If George born 1794 - = aged 47 in 1841
Captain John Hood would have berthed his ships there in London.
George Hood of Selby d 1845 must have got wealth from a family like this one and had knowledge in business
Ann Comber was residing in Yorkshire and married William 1782 in Wakefield
John Hood had a son William bapt 1766 birth year unknown Scarborough with brothers Richard & Christopher.
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
I am really sorry, especially after all your valiant efforts and surrounding research of this family. However, I really do not think that this Will of William Hood, with a Wharf at Earl Street, Blackfriars, dated 27 October 1813 and Proved 7th March 1817, is related to the Hood family at Selby?
Household items were being left to Wm Grousell[?] of Barnars Castle Copper Office, Ann Lindsey of Recton Surrey, Wm Cadell Jun'r of Princes Street Edinburgh, John Green of Dell Lodge, Blackheath, Wm Crawshay of [---?---] Thames Street.
It seems Wm Hood's daughter Dorothy A Hood was being left £1500 and to their son Geo Hood £800.
The Two daughters and George Hood, being William Hood's [Testator's] children were to receive interest every half year. After William Hood's [Testator's] decease, George Hood his son had the power of calling in the [---?---] of the aforesaid sum of £18 with all convenient speed for the purpose of [---?---] himself a Company into any of His Majesty's Regiments of Foot.
Comments & new research in Selby Land Tax records
However, I would describe my George Hood, originally a Cooper at Selby, when he got established along with his sons, sub-let property, brewed and retailed beer, tanning and was 'comfortable working class'. Sarah Hood, his wife was a Straw hat maker.
If George of Selby had a business mind, made sensible decisions, costed his plans, got his money in, got other small business men in advance on board to renting the properties, before he committed to renting property from the Manor initially, then I feel George could probably make enough money to buy property and whilst his sons were training, they would be doing a mans work, at a lower wage to start with.
Also our family did not start having second forenames until circa 1870s, the people being left household items, I have never heard of before.
I am sorry, but it does not quite fit right, the only possible confirmed link to John Hood the Yorkshire Mariner who operated from/through Selby, is to the Gun and Shot Wharfe, Southwark, nearby, in the 1770s.
It would seem from the Land Tax records below, that the Selby Tenements (although they had changed ownership), that "Mrs Slipper & J Hood" were Occupiers in 1781 & 1782, later given as Mr Hood the Occupier around 1800 and in 1814 George Hood being an Occupier, appears to link J. Hood [which we believe to be John Hood the Mariner of Selby] to George Hood, as no other Hood's seem to be in the township of Selby, around that time period.
Selby Land Tax
1781 and 1782
Proprietor Occupiers
Mr Turner 2 Tenem'ts Mrs Slipper & J. Hood
Selby Land Tax 1814
Proprietor Occupier
M' Spencer 1st Ten'mt Mr Hood
2nd ---------- -------------
1. Would be interested to know please, if Mrs Slipper (in the Tax document of 1781 & 1782) was nee Hood, before marriage?
2. If a George, or any baby boy, was born to a lady with the surname of 'Slipper' at Selby, circa 1780 to 1782?
Of course Mrs Slipper, could simply be the occupier of one of the two Tenements, but it is written "Mrs Slipper & J Hood"
Many thanks, for your searches and continued interest.
Kind regards, Mark
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Ah ah, so George the son was purchasing Commissions in the Army of His Majesty's Regiments of Foot. That would appear to wrap up that avenue. Don't apologise, all avenues must be explored.
Cannot find any reference to Mrs Slipper (only in the Land Tax), sorry.
The search continues.........
Goughy
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Hello Goughy
The Will of William Hood of Earl Street Wharf, did not actually say whether George entered military Service in a Regiment of Foot, or not?
The Will appeared to say that a small amount of money was to be available after William's decease, should George Hood request it for that military purpose.
Regards Mark
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William seemed a bit too posh for your George. I agree
Bond Allegation
William Hood, Merchant aged 21 widower (Bondsman William Brooke of Wakefield) of St Bennet's Middlesex
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Ann Comber aged 18 spinster of Wakefield parent Mary Comber widow of the late Rev Dr Thomas Comber Evangelist ~ Doctor of Law.
Sounds like being a reverend he possibly was posted in Wakefield and maybe was a southern person of descent.
10-12-1782 Wakefield
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This is earlier Hood's of Selby
Howard-Vyse family of Langdon Hall Miscellaneous-1 paper
Will of Roger Hood of Selby
Reference:
DDHV/79/30
Description:
Bequests: brother Nathaniel Hood, sisters Elizabeth Middleton and Ann Todd, nephew German Camp, John Wask and Ann Barker, nieces Sarah and Mary Camp Property: house and orchard in Ousegate (Selby) Probate: 21 Mar 1728. (<- maybe 1778)
Date:
14 Mar 1778
Held by:
East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Local Studies Service, not available at The National Archives
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?search=r&_q=+hood+selby
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/65bb1474-2e0f-47d9-a028-e9007051934f
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From the BTs and parish registers available on FindMyPast - there are no instances of the surname Slipper in Selby - baptisms, marriages or burials.
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Hi Mark,
You've been reading all these deeds, I can't remember off hand without reading all the posts ? but if there is a earliest deed that George sold in Selby ? without a record of a buy by George for the same deed, say the deeds was part of a package not all itemised, that was left in a residue of a Hood estate of his forebears.
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Hello dobfarm and Goughy
Thank you, I am not ruling your suggestion out regarding William Hood of London.
14th March 1727
Probate of the Will of Roger Hood of Selby
In the name of God Amen I Roger Hood of Selby being weak of Body but of perfect understanding Do make this my last Will and Testament – in manner and form following (Viz.) … I give o’in manner following first I give to my Brother Nathaniel Hood, my Sister Eliz: Middleton & my sister Ann Todd my dwelling house and orchard & appurts thereunto belonging to be equally divided among o’in & Do hereby give and bequeath each of ye above mentioned p’ties an equal share in ye above mentioned house and orchard lyeing or being in Ouzegate I give also to Mr John [unrecognised surname, Masl: or Wasl:, or Mosl:, or Wosl:] & Ann Barker liveing in Wren Lane five pounds in Trust for the only use & benefit of my Nephew Gernian Camp to be given to him in such way & proportions as the abovementioned Mr Musli [Mosli ?] & Ann Barker shall see and think proper to give him I also give to my Nephew Gernian Camp the Bed and Appurts belonging to him standing in the Chamber I also give to my two Neeces Sarah and Mary Camp all the wearing apparrele linnen & wooling belonging to my Late wife Except the Cloak w’ch I give to my sister Middleton. Lastly I appoint my Brother Nathaniel Hood my Sister Middleton & my Sister Todd Exe’trs of this my Last Will & Testam’t. I give o’in all my goods & Chattells debts & Creditts my Legaicys debts and funeral Expenses being first discharged In Witness whereof I set my hand & Seal this 14th March 1727/8 Roger Hood. Witness Geo: Hutchinson, Peter Leaper Ann Nutt. [sic]. Note comments in square brackets are my additions.
Comments and Further Information
The Will is dated 1727 on the cover and inside 1727/8 [due to the year change for Wills being in March – according to my local Ecclesiastical Record Office].
Therefore, I feel that the online catalogue 1778 date is probably a transcribing error and unlikely to be a Second Grant on the Will.
From the recently acquired Selby Parish Register Transcriptions:-
It appears that a Nathaniel Hood married Eliz: FAUCET in August 1707, had a son called Nath: in June 1708, but can’t find Selby burials for either Nathaniel Hood.
(In March 1722 – ‘Unamed child’ Hood buried of Nathaniel).
it appears that a Roger Hood married Elizabeth HEMINGLEY at Selby in March 1722.
Roger Hood was buried 18 March 1728.
I have been unable to link to Nathaniel Hood (brother of Roger Hood) at the moment.
Selby Abbey have shown me from their MI records and the only surviving grave memorials were those of Hoods buried inside Selby Abbey and mainly seem to relate to Matthew Hood the Surgeon of Wistow / Selby and Seven Hoods were buried in the Abbey between 1687 and 1732, including a Geo [H]ood. The 19th Century transcriber only listed one surviving Memorial in the Abbey to Geo *ood dying 20 May 1713 and Hood John “his son”, died 3rd of –.
Looking at the Selby Parish Register transcriptions from the Society, it seems there is a gap in the Selby Hood’s between January 1757 (when Hannah Hood was buried), until the Jane Hood burial 15 August 1803 wife of John Hood, the Mariner.
Although, in the Selby transcriptions there must also be a marriage (probably somewhere else) between a John Bacon and a Hood, because when Henry Bacon died 17 Sept 1785, it has been transcribed that Henry Bacon, a Tanner, was the son of John & Hannah (dau of Mr Hood of Selby, Surgeon).
So there must be a John Bacon and Hannah Hood marriage somewhere?
According to a Selby Baptism of Susannah Maria Fisher in August 1789 to John and Jane Fisher, John Fisher was the son of Michael Fisher of Armin, Mariner, by Hannah [nee Hood] his wife, dau of Saml Hood of Selby, Surgeon.
There must be a Michael Fisher and Hannah Hood marriage?
The last Selby marriage before this gap was by Licence in December 1733, between Samuel Hood and Elizabeth Smith.
Thorganby Church Burials – Samuel Hood Barber and Surgeon from Selby 1st July 1737.
Also at Thorganby Mary TATE HOOD Wife of Thomas TATE HOOD Labourer 21st May 1781 (but no link to Selby).
http://www.thorganby.co.uk/burials2.htm
Also, apparently no burial for Nathaniel Hood at Selby, who appears to be an adult according to the 1727 Will?
So where did Nathaniel Hood go to and where was he buried?
There must be a John Bacon and Hannah Hood marriage somewhere?
There must be a Michael Fisher and Hannah Hood marriage too, somewhere?
Which reminds me of my original question, where was George Hood buried in Sept 1845 and Sarah his wife, who died as Sarah Hood at Selby 28 November 1879 (she is not in the Selby [town] Cemetery opened 1858).
I think what is making this more difficult is that Selby was on a route for Coasters and Brigs, plying their trade to other places and parts of Yorkshire, Sunderland and London, enabling family movements of Hoods easy to other Yorkshire Parishes and it seems there is also a Hood gap at Selby, which I cannot bridge.
I don't know if I am linked to the previous Hoods at Selby, before this gap (gap 1757 to 1803), or not.
Thanks Mark
EDIT: I also wonder if Sarah Hood dying at 11 Gowthorpe Selby 28 November 1879 left a Will (specifying a burial place).
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Hannah Hood Marries Michael Fisher 2 April 1749 Holy Trinity Hull
Following your search with great interest!
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Found a burial of a Nathaniel Hood at Heslington in 1752 (National Burial Index)
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Thanks Ruth
Regards Mark
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Hi Mark,
A new line of thought
Apprentice school
Selby maybe similar to London link!
I don't know exactly what the meaning of this is but on George's Bond Allegation 1815 marriage of intent, its says in hand writing. Quote:- Robert Sinclair, master of arts commissary or office
of the peculiar and spiritual jurisdiction of Selby (Cooper)[]. Unquote
At first I though Robert Sinclair had a university degree in 'arts' but having reading this website link (Not Selby) apprenticeships in London for boys after 1692 boys could be sent to a type of industrial school in the parish
Quote from link:- Besides acting as a house of correction, Bridewell Hospital also acted as an industrial school, with Apprentice (or Arts) Masters employed to train boys from London: unquote.
http://www.londonlives.org/static/IA.jsp
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Hi
I had already searched for Apprentice records for George but without success.
However, the marriage bond potentially suggests George could have done his apprenticeship with a Robert Sinclair. The wording also seems to suggest that Robert Sinclair was providing services through the Parish. The masters did not have to pay stamp duty on the apprentices that were assigned by the parish. This means apprentices are not included on Apprenticeship records. Perhaps the Parish Chest may have something. Overseers Assessment Selby 1750 - 1808 are on MF1774 at the Borthwick.
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Hi Goughy
If the scenario was the case, of Mark's that Mrs Slipper and J Hood lived at the same adode, Mrs Slipper had George in illegitimacy and George was basically brought up by (financially- J Hood pays the parish maintenance money) the parish of Selby and Mrs Slipper (Widow ?), 18th century parish poor records may hold (workhouse records but not in the workhouse) parish births of the poor. This could explain George's education (to write /read) in schooling and trade. J Hood sets George up financially later. ( while J hood is still alive).
J Hood could be John, Joseph, Joshua, Jonathan ........... etc.
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Hello dobfarm and Goughy
Thanks for your comments.
The two documents that the Borthwick sent (besides the Selby Parish Marriage Register page from Selby Library), regarding the Bond and Licence, says "Robert Sinclair Master of Arts Commissary or Official of the Peculiar and Spiritual Jurisdiction of Selby" ... No mention of Sinclair being a Cooper.
Other document dated 16th May 1815 says:-
"On which Day appeared personally George Hood of Selby in the Peculiar and Spiritual Jurisdiction of Selby aforesaid' Cooper" ...
George Hood was the Cooper.
I have been searching 'Selby' and various search words and found this in The Leeds Intelligencer newspaper dated 6 October 1800:-
To COOPERS.
WANTED Immediately, A JOURNEY-
MAN COOPER, who is perfect Master of his
Business, and has been accustomed to make Kitls and
Buckets.- He must be well recommended for Honesty
and Sobriety.
Apply (if by Letter Post-paid,) to Mr. Richard
Gibson, Cooper, Selby.
Richard Gibson's name appears in one of the later George Hood Deed copies.
Kind regards Mark
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Hampshire and Sussex chronicle 15th June 1807
Bankrupt R Gibson Cooper, of Selby
Leeds Mercury 21sy June 1823
Deaths
Monday last age 76 -Mrs Law relict of the late Mr Law, Cooper of Selby -
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Leeds Mercury 21sy June 1823
Deaths
Monday last age 76 -Mrs Law relict of the late Mr Law, Cooper of Selby -
Matthew Law, Cooper died 1799
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
Thank you.
We are going to make a visit, to the Hull History Centre, I hear they have Muster Rolls, they tell me the Hull Cemeteries are old enough for an 1845 death (not online) and they also list some Manorial records for Selby.
Regarding the Selby Land Tax, I am going back, to download some more. "Mrs Slipper & J Hood" in 1781 were occupying two Tenements. They were probably in separate neighbouring Tenements and really should have been shown, one name, above or below the other.
Selby Land Tax
1781 and 1782
Proprietor Occupiers
Mr Turner 2 Tenem'ts Mrs Slipper & J. Hood
Selby Land Tax 1814
Proprietor Occupier
M' Spencer 1st Ten'mt Mr Hood
2nd ---------- -------------
Kind regards Mark
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Hannah Hood Marries Michael Fisher 2 April 1749 Holy Trinity Hull
Following your search with great interest!
After making that posting (a page back, p.16) about Roger Hood's 1727 Will, also some questions, arising from the Selby Parish Register transcriptions about the gap (no Hood references in the Parish Register at Selby) from 1757 - until the Selby 1794 Marriage of Maudland Hood (dau of John Hood of Selby, Mariner), I received the above, in answer to one question.
Not all of those Hood's born/baptised at Selby before 1757 have been buried at Selby according to the transcriptions, there are two Nathaniel Hoods and a couple of other Hoods apparently baptised or from Selby.
After getting this response to one of my questions, it appears that Hannah Hood [was from Selby because of a reference in the Selby transcriptions linking her to Michael Fisher] has married a Michael Fisher in Hull in 1749.
I am getting a feeling, that at least some Selby Hoods surviving the gap from 1757 (regarding Hoods mentioned in the Selby Registers), have migrated along the Rivers frequented by these Coasters and Sailing Vessels?
Regarding, the above reply, a Michael Fisher is sailing from Hull on the 'Constant Ann' and the 'Nancy' from at least 1755 to 1761.
Also, another Hood, a Michael Hood (place of birth unknown) is sailing the 'Michael and Ann' from Hull to Bridlington, Berwick and other coastal places, from at least 1755 and (on another boat) into the 1760s.
Also a:-
"J. Hood" from Hull on the 'York Union' and the 'Two Brothers' including to Dublin 11 Oct 1777 (classed as an 'Export' per newspaper) and to Newcastle etc (1774 to 1778);
a "John Hood" the 'Brothers' to London (1778);
and a "Hood" on the vessel called 'Industry', the 'Bedale', and the 'Betsy' (1780 to 1792),
likely our Selby Mariner John Hood and these are all one of the same?
Hannah Hood's husband Michael Fisher could be a Mariner, any reference on their Marriage to his occupation, please?
Also this Michael Hood, sailing out of Hull?
And, some of this Selby - Hood - Sailing, connection sailing from Hull, could link up eventually, with William Hood in London, it is a great shame, that the Will fails to say where George Hood was from, which makes me wonder if there is an Inland Revenue Abtract also, which tells us more about the beneficiaries?
Thanks and kind regards, Mark
EDIT: above slightly edited, regarding the Inland Revenue records (re Stamp, Legacy and Estate Duty) Abstracts of Wills, TNA, Kew, have only kept them for prominent or famous persons!!
I have found both the Will and Copy Stamp Duty document of my Two Times Gt Grandfather at Leicester Record Office.
I will contact the London Met Archive and see if they have the copy Inland Revenue document, for William Hood's 1817 Will, as some Local Record Offices must have acquired the Copy.
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Just for future reference for you
Nathanial Hood of Selby maarried Anne Loftas 1732 at Brayton
Deaths
Nathanial Hood, Skinner, Malton 1745
Nathanial Hood, Household, 1751 Heslington
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Useful info source links
There are a few separate entries for Selby, in mid to lower down the pages in links for different issues. ie:- Selby 2012 -2013-York 2014 -Selby continued 2015 in bottom link below
Do a slow full page scroll down both links beyond parish registers
https://www.york.ac.uk/media/borthwick/documents/Parish_Records_Index.pdf
https://www.york.ac.uk/media/borthwick/documents/3.1.8.3MFB.pdf
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Thank you dobfarm and Goughy
Found George Hood (by manual searching), in the pages of the 1812 Selby Land Tax.
Proprietor Occupier
Ld Petre Howden George
" Howing William
" Hood George
Online Auction
Sadly, the following Vellum documents were sold online in early 2014 relating to George Hood of Selby.
Ousegate, Selby Conveyance documents 1838 and 1864
19th Jan 1838, a single page document, contains details of many properties in Selby to be either bought or leased to Mr George Hood.
20th Jan 1838 Conveyance is a large 5 page document between Bridget Nicholson, widow, of Rawcliffe, Snaith York and James Collinson. It contains many references to local businesses and names in Ousegate Street. There is also mention of 2 pews in the parish church of Selby.
I have managed to get the 3 photos of the seals and signatures purporting to belong to the Conveyance dated 20th January 1838:-
Briget Nicholson
Samuel Nicholson
Samuel Smith
George Smith
Wm Bawlanc [or Wm Bawland, or Wm Barulanc or Wm Borulanc, or Wm Boruland. End part of name possibly outside photo]
Abraham Hodgson
Hannah Carter Clark
Wm Milton [or Wm Mitton]
James Collinson
George Hood
Edw'd Parker
Regarding the 'single page document' (not on view online) dated 19th Jan 1838, it does sound as though George has received an inheritance as suggested by dobfarm.
I am going to consider the Yorkshire Will Calendars (Indexes) and possibly other Counties. Do you know please if all the Yorkshire Will Calendars are printed, as I understand that there were several layers that dealt with Wills in Yorkshire?
Where I live, the Calendars of Wills and Admons and the Wills themselves are either at Lichfield, or Wills on TNA, Kew, website.
Regarding William Hood's London Will, I feel that there would have to be some lengthy delay in settling the London Will, although if they were having difficulty, there would possibly be some Notice, or a case.
Regards Mark
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I thought dobfarm would have replied by now - he's obviously having a lazy Sunday ;D ;D (I shall almost certainly get a rude e-mail regarding that comment :-X)
As Lichfield Archives is the repository for the Diocese of Lichfield, so the Borthwick Institute in York is the repository for pre-1858 (certainly) wills for the Diocese of York, and looking at my list - post-1858 as well. FindMyPast have the indices on-line - I can see the following for "Hood" of "Selby"
George - 1846
William - 1871
Roger - 1727
John - 1861
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Hello BumbleB, don't worry dobfarm.
Thank you, I have got Roger 1727 and George 1846 Wills, that you mention.
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/sources/probate.shtml
gives these two ...
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/york-peculiars-probate-index-1383-1883
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/prerogative-and-exchequer-courts-of-york-probate-index-1688-1858
Do you know if these two links, 'York Peculiars' and the 'Prerogative and Exchequer Court' cover all the Yorkshire Calendar types, please?
Kind regards Mark
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http://www.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%204.pdf
Deeds Wills pre 1858 held at Wakefield register of deeds office
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London and Surrey Bond marriage bond allegation
17 August 1778
John Hood parish of Scarborough, a mariner Widower
to Sarah Hammond Widow (Does not say where she came from)
ref MS 10091E/91
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Sarah Hood — burial 1785 Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England ???
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John Hood X Jane Newby marriage: ???
3 November 1793
Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England
Thanks for replies.
Regarding John Hood marrying Jane Newby, in 1793 (above).
On George Hood's 1815 Marriage Bond, it was signed by:-
George Hood
Chester Newby
According to the marriage bond Chester Newby of Selby, a miller.
The Selby Parish Transcriptions do not list Chester Newby, does anyone have a birth / baptism and any marriage place/s, please?
Thank you, Mark
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Hi Mark
Chester Newby
Born in Whitley Bridge 1790 Parents Thomas and Hannah Newby (nee Chester)
Married Elizabeth Goulton 30 Jan 1814 (Chester of Snaith Parish - Elizabeth Selby Parish
Re-married 1841 in Rawcliffe, Goole to Mary Ann Pease - residence at time of marriage Barlow
1841 Census residence Barlow
1851 Census visitor Barlow
Died 25 Sept 1859 Selby District
Probate Calendar describes him as Gentleman of Snaith
Goughy
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There is a little church with some ground around opposite Barlow hall (Graveyard ?) part of Barlow village near Selby
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7532423,-1.023575,3a,90y,110.28h,89.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ_6aVOEgBNf6NN9ACI4Azw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
In map in link below The word (big) BARLOW in big bold letters (To right corner of map) above the letter L in BARLOW is the church
http://maps.nls.uk/view/100947833
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It was a Chapel of Ease at Barlow - Brayton is the mother church
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http://www.victoriacountyhistory.ac.uk/sites/default/files/work-in-progress/barlow_religious_history.pdf
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Thank you for your replies
Finally, I now have the estimate and have ordered by return, the staff file pages of the Poor Law Union relating to Selby, to see if they cover George Hood (who was 'elected' Overseer in 1838, after finding his election in the newspaper), I am not hopeful as the government catalogue description suggests they are the paid staff of the Selby Poor Law Union and George Hood was 'Elected', but two archives have noted the file reference ;D
Also been Googling to see if a file might exist for James Hood 1855 bankruptcy (as the same James Hood of Selby, I believe, was one of George Hood's sons), sometimes inheritances, or possible future inheritances and family relationships were considered in later, 20th Century Bankruptcy files.
Does anyone know if and where Yorkshire Bankruptcy files might now be held, please?
Two of the Bankruptcy Notices of James Hood of Selby
In the Matter of James Hood, of Selby, Currier, against
whom a Petition in Bankruptcy was issued on the 17th
day of March, 1855.
I HEREBY give notice, that the creditors who have
proved their debts under the above estate may receive
a First Dividend of 1s. 10d. in the pound, upon application
at my office, as under, on any day, between the hours
of eleven and two. No Dividend will be paid without the
production of the securities exhibited at the time of proving
the debt. Executors and administrators will be required to
produce the probate of the will or the letters of administra-
tion under which they claim.
GEO. YOUNG, Official Assignee,
5, Park-row, Leeds.
MARTIN JOHN WEST, Esq., one of the Com-
missioners of Her Majesty's Court of Bankruptcy
for the Leeds District, acting in the prosecution of a Petition
for adjudication of Bankruptcy, filed against James Hood,
of Selby, in the county of York, Currier, Dealer and Chap-
man, hath allowed to the said bankrupt a Certificate of con-
formity of the second class, bearing date the 8th day of June,
1855; and such Certificate will be delivered to the said
bankrupt at the expiration of twenty-one days from the date
hereof, unless an appeal be duly entered against the same.
EDIT: Since posting, I have been emailing Wakefield regarding any possible 1855 Bankruptcy file?
Thanks and regards, Mark
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Thorganby Burial
Mary TATE HOOD
Wife of Thomas TATE HOOD ???
Labourer
21st May, 1781
http://www.thorganby.co.uk/burials2.htm
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Hi Mark
Chester Newby
Born in Whitley Bridge 1790 Parents Thomas and Hannah Newby (nee Chester)
Married Elizabeth Goulton 30 Jan 1814 (Chester of Snaith Parish - Elizabeth Selby Parish
Re-married 1841 in Rawcliffe, Goole to Mary Ann Pease - residence at time of marriage Barlow
1841 Census residence Barlow
1851 Census visitor Barlow
Died 25 Sept 1859 Selby District
Probate Calendar describes him as Gentleman of Snaith
Goughy
Thanks Goughy
At the Library I found Chester Newby a Miller (on George Hood's 16 May 1815 Marriage Bond), in the 1841 & 1851 Census, born Witley, Yorkshire, circa 1790.
Also I managed to find the Baptism entry for Whitley, it appears to be put down as August Newby, but when opening it says under Baptisms 1790 ... 8[?] "August Chester So of Thomas & Hannah Newby Whitley"
Whitley is obviously South South West of Selby, as the same page for Chester Newby Baptism at Whitley, refers to Beall [Beal], Whitley and Kellington in other entries on the page.
Then my hour time limit ran out.
Regards Mark
EDIT: thanks dobfarm
Regarding Mary TATE HOOD wife of Thomas TATE HOOD Labourer buried at Thorganby, 21st May 1781.
If you alter the end figure in the link from 2 to 3, you should get the next internet page of burials and locate a Thomas TATE Shoemaker, died 27th December 1805 of natural decay. Abode Thorganby. Buried 27th December, 76 years.
If her husband was a TATE, then quite where the Hood in 'TATE HOOD' comes from, I don't know.
However, there is a SAMUEL HOOD Barbour and Surgeon from Selby buried at Thorganby, 1st July 1737.
In 2011 we visited Selby Abbey on the way home and afterward, as I saw the sign when entering Snaith, I suddenly had a feeling, an urge that we should stop, to see if George Hood was buried at Snaith. But my wife, wanted to get back and we continued.
George Hood is a mystery, the only thing passed down was that Sarah Hood (wife of John Hood, tanner of Selby, George's son), considered herself 'Gentry', but I thought she was an ordinary lass. Sarah Hood died at "Home on Spalding Moor" in 1886, aged 66 and was brought back to Selby and buried 3rd July in the same grave 1531 as John Hood, tanner of Gowthorpe, Selby, her husband, in the Selby Town Cemetery.
Thanks.
Regards Mark
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Hello Goughy, dobfarm and All,
Please see my questions near the bottom, I have had all my photocopies out and come to the conclusion that there must be some missing Hood (sideways) connections in the Selby area, which I hope will lead back to other earlier Hood's.
One point passed down, was that forenames were taken from the previous generation. However, I have noticed that mainly in the sideways connections (from the direct line of descent) that surnames have appeared as middle names, between 1854 and 1884.
July 1815 George Hood (birth unknown) marries Sarah Russel (born Selby 30 Sept 1793), my 4 X Gt. Grandparents.
Known Children of Geo Hood Marrying
1847 John Hood, tanner, of Selby, marr Sarah Richardson at Sculcoates (from Certificate), my 3 X Gt Grandparents.
1851 William Hood of Selby, brewer, marr Jane Casson (born Thorne), at Scarbro' Register Office.
1851 James Hood, currier, marr Sarah Arundel, both of Selby.
1855 George Hood, farmer, marr Ann Marrison (born Blyth, Notts), at Selby.
Hood Births incorporating Surnames in the Selby Registration District - incl surrounding areas
1854 Clara Richardson Hood (John Hood, tanner and Sarah's daughter) Gowthorpe, Selby 1861.
1854 Elizabeth Cook Hood (Elizabeth C. Hood) Ousegate in 1861, Granddaughter in the household of Mary Wilkinson (Head) & Son-in-Law James & Sarah Hood.
1857 Edwin Casson Hood (Wm & Jane's son), Wren Lane 1861, Jane Hood was nee Casson.
1858 John Wilkinson Hood (James Hood was Son-in-Law of 'Head' Mary Wilkinson, but James wife was nee Arundel)?
1861 Matilda Vincent Hood (born March Qtr, but not on 1861 Census? Died 1862) - Where in 1861 Census, Hood/Emily Vincent (parents per IGI) a bit of a mystery??
1861 William Russell Hood (William R Hood) at Ousegate 1861 with James & family & Mary Wilkinson (Head). Russel was the surname of Sarah Russel, wife of George Hood Sen'r (so middle name taken from 2 generations back).
1863 Mary Beatrice Hood (not searched for) - Beatrice can be a surname & forename.
1870 Bernard Pearson Hood born Scarbro' District (son of James Hood online source, not chk'd), investigating, Birth Cert ordered.
Two John Hood deaths in the Registration District of Selby in Dec Qtr 1860, separated by one page in Register (both Certs ordered).
I have ordered Certificates for the remaining marriages and others for some of these above.
James Hood was Son-in-Law of Mary Wilkinson, per Census.
Elizabeth Cook Hood, or Cook surname, wonder how this fits?
Bernard Pearson Hood, or Pearson surname, does this link to a previous Hood generation, I am wondering (Cert ordered for birth address in Scarbro' District)?
Matilda Vincent Hood registered March Quarter 1861. IGI - apparently daughter of:- Hood and Emily Vincent born in the March 1861 Qtr. Baptised later at Drax 5 June 1861, died in 1862 (Birth Cert ordered).
Hannah Hood death March Qtr 1868, aged 24, death registered in the Selby District, not noticed previously in the Selby Census's as born Selby (Cert ordered).
Incidentally, there was a marriage 24 December 1839 in the Parish Church of Riccall John Hood to Elizabeth Lazenby, both of full age, but Batchelor and Spinster, registered at Selby (from GRO Cert).
I might discover a little more as the Certificates arrive, but surnames Cook, Vincent and Pearson and a few odds and ends are unclear?
The Russel in William Russell Hood, goes back two generations.
Thanks Mark
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1861 Matilda Vincent Hood (born March Qtr, but not on 1861 Census? Died 1862) - Where in 1861 Census??
Matilda Vincent Hood registered March Quarter 1861. IGI - apparently daughter of:- Hood and Emily Vincent born in the March 1861 Qtr. Baptised later at Drax 5 June 1861, died in 1862 (Birth Cert ordered).
Hi Mark
Matilda Vincent Hood was the illegitimate daughter of Emily Vincent Hood (transcribed on 1861 census "Mittilda") Emily Vincent Hood was the daughter of Samuel Hood born Circa 1816 Ditchingham, Norfolk and wife Sarah born circa 1815, Colton, Nofolk. Samuel was a Farm Baliff living in Long Drax in 1861 Census. He seemed to move around a lot.
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1863 Mary Beatrice Hood (not searched for) - Beatrice can be a surname & forename.
Mary Beatrice Hood is the daughter of William Hood and Jane Casson
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1858 John Wilkinson Hood (James Hood was Son-in-Law of 'Head' Mary Wilkinson, but James wife was nee Arundel)?
James Hood was Son-in-Law of Mary Wilkinson, per Census.
Sarah Arundel was the illegitimate daughter of Mary Arundel who married John Wilkinson, therefore Mary Wilkinson is the mother-in-law of James. Sarah Arundel is living with John and Mary Wilkinson in 1851 Census (may be he was Sarah's father, or just brought her up as his "daughter")
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1861 Matilda Vincent Hood (born March Qtr, but not on 1861 Census? Died 1862) - Where in 1861 Census??
Matilda Vincent Hood registered March Quarter 1861. IGI - apparently daughter of:- Hood and Emily Vincent born in the March 1861 Qtr. Baptised later at Drax 5 June 1861, died in 1862 (Birth Cert ordered).
Hi Mark
Matilda Vincent Hood was the illegitimate daughter of Emily Vincent Hood (transcribed on 1861 census "Mittilda") Emily Vincent Hood was the daughter of Samuel Hood born Circa 1816 Ditchingham, Norfolk and wife Sarah born circa 1815, Colton, Nofolk. Samuel was a Farm Baliff living in Long Drax in 1861 Census. He seemed to move around a lot.
Hello Goughy
Thank you.
This use of the surname 'Vincent' in Matilda Vincent Hood, is possibly a coincidence and may not relate to my Hood's living at Selby.
I have made some slight changes to my post, as I had one at the wrong street in Selby, per Census.
Kind regards Mark
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Long Drax comes under the Selby Registration District, so the Birth Registration you found in 1861 and Death in 1862 for Matilda Vincent Hood refers to the Hood family living in Long Drax, the family originating in Norfolk.
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1858 John Wilkinson Hood (James Hood was Son-in-Law of 'Head' Mary Wilkinson, but James wife was nee Arundel)?
James Hood was Son-in-Law of Mary Wilkinson, per Census.
Sarah Arundel was the illegitimate daughter of Mary Arundel who married John Wilkinson, therefore Mary Wilkinson is the mother-in-law of James. Sarah Arundel is living with John and Mary Wilkinson in 1851 Census (may be he was Sarah's father, or just brought her up as his "daughter")
Hello Goughy
Thanks for this explanation (quoted) as to why one of the Grandchildren of George Hood (senior) of Selby was carrying the surname Wilkinson for his middle name.
Because 'Russell' (the maiden name of Sarah Russel, the wife of George Hood of Selby, senior) has been used apparently, as the middle surname of one Grandchild, it leaves me wondering whether the middle surname 'Cook' and 'Pearson' may eventually help to confirm the lineage back from George Hood of Selby (senior), when his circa 1780s birth place and September 1845 burial place, are eventually discovered.
Perhaps George Hood's father, was possibly the same Sailor father John Hood of Selby and Scarborough who was father of Maudland Hood born Scarborough and Maudland Hood (alias Mordland) who married at Selby in November 1794.
I am especially looking forward to receiving the 1851 Marriage Cert of George Hood's eldest son William Hood (baptised 1816) of Selby, at the Scarborough Register Office (according to December newspaper entries) to see if there is any Scarborough area address and other unknown Hood witnesses, who may be still alive in the 1841 & 1851 Census, or other documents.
Also the Birth Cert of Bernard Pearson Hood (internet source suggests he was James Hood's and nee Sarah Arundel's son) born in the Scarborough District, for the location/place and household (hopefully a Hood household) as I expect the GRO "Scarbro' District" had a large coverage.
As I have found in the London Times and another newspaper two separate property sales of farms in the Scarborough locality occupied (Tenanted) by a John Hood.
I have been having my hour at the Library, when I can get there, to download more 1851 Census pages of Hoods at, or born Scalby, Osgodby, Cloughton, Brompton and noted my IGI sheets of Christenings for Kirby Misperton and aforementioned places, also containing Hoods.
dobfarm mentioned one John Hood of Scarborough marrying and you mentioned that he was a farmer.
I am hoping to get some 18th Century 'Hood' Baptisms, Marriages and Burials copies soon for Scarborough, locality etc.
Yes, the GRO District of Selby is a large District, including many Parishes.
Thanks and kind regards, Mark
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Hi Mark
I thought it would be useful to just put down James and Sarah's family for "tracking purposes"
Mary Ellen Hood b Selby 1853
Elizabeth Cook Hood b Selby 1854
Adeline Hood b Selby 1855
Sarah Hood b Selby 1856
John Wilkinson Hood b Selby 1858
William Russell Hood b Selby 1861
James Alfred Hood b Sunderland 1863
George Arundel Hood b 1866 Selby
Bernard Pearson Hood b 1870 Scarborough
In the 1871 Census, Mary Ellen Hood is staying with a Dobson family in Bowling, Bradford and is stated as "cousin". The head of household is Thomas Duckworth Dobson b 1829 Wakefield and his wife Mary Ann b 1833 London, Middlesex. Thomas Duckworth Dobson married Mary Ann Bateman in 1855 in Selby.
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Also the Birth Cert of Bernard Pearson Hood (internet source suggests he was James Hood's and nee Sarah Arundel's son) born in the Scarborough District, for the location/place and household (hopefully a Hood household) as I expect the GRO "Scarbro' District" had a large coverage.
In case you did not know, James and Sarah Hood and family, along with Mary Wilkinson were living in Scarborough on the 1871 Census and Bernard Pearson Hood is listed as their son.
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I am especially looking forward to receiving the 1851 Marriage Cert of George Hood's eldest son William Hood (baptised 1816) of Selby, at the Scarborough Register Office (according to December newspaper entries) to see if there is any Scarborough area address and other unknown Hood witnesses, who may be still alive in the 1841 & 1851 Census, or other documents.
Looking at 1841/1851 Census, I would guess William Hood and Jane Casson married in Scarborough because Jane's mother Mary and her brother Alfred were both living in Scarborough. The Casson family were Quakers.
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I am especially looking forward to receiving the 1851 Marriage Cert of George Hood's eldest son William Hood (baptised 1816) of Selby, at the Scarborough Register Office (according to December newspaper entries) to see if there is any Scarborough area address and other unknown Hood witnesses, who may be still alive in the 1841 & 1851 Census, or other documents.
Looking at 1841/1851 Census, I would guess William Hood and Jane Casson married in Scarborough because Jane's mother Mary and her brother Alfred were both living in Scarborough. The Casson family were Quakers.
Hello Goughy
Thank you. After reading your last two comments and seeing James Hood and family at Scarborough in the 1871 Census earlier today, I have the suspicion that two of the Certificates ordered will be of little use, in finding any new possible Hood family relatives residing at Scarborough.
William Hood of Selby, baptised 1816 Selby, does appear to have become a Quaker, because his death, aged 54 in 1870 appears in "The Annual Monitor" listing the Obituaries of the Society of Friends. Despite checking, there is no detailed obituary for William Hood, Selby. However, there is some detailed information for a few selected members, so worth checking by the family researcher.
I did wonder if William's wife was possibly a Quaker and if the motivation for the marriage at Scarborough was linked to his wife, so thanks for the suggestion. I am not now, very hopeful that unknown Scarbro' Hood relatives will appear on William Hood's Marriage Certificate.
On John Hood's August 1846 Marriage Certificate to Sarah Richardson at Sculcoates, both the Witnesses were Richardsons! Although, it did confirm I had got the right marriage, as John Hood was from Selby and a Tanner.
Using the Census (before they were online) and street directories at Record Offices, ordering the death, marriage and birth at each stage, I was able to track my family line back to Selby Yorks, via addresses in Leicester, Bowdon, Cheshire and Greater Manchester, with the minimum of Certificates, back to George Hood and Sarah Russel's 1815 marriage at Selby.
Unfortunately, when first child William Hood was born in 1816, there are no parents in the Register for George Hood (father), it seems the format was changed, to less information for first child. However, when Sarah Russel was born Selby 1793 as first daughter to the Russel's, the Register gives birth/baptism dates of Sarah, her parentage with Parish and then more names, with their occupation and Parish back a further generation.
Kind regards, Mark
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Unfortunately, when first child William Hood was born in 1816, there are no parents in the Register for George Hood (father), it seems the format was changed, to less information for first child. However, when Sarah Russel was born Selby 1793 as first daughter to the Russel's, the Register gives birth/baptism dates of Sarah, her parentage with Parish and then more names, with their occupation and Parish back a further generation.
Hi Mark
Yorkshire Dade Parish Records (which too are sometimes a bit hit and miss in wealth of information) depended on the Curate's "attitude". Dade style registers were from abt 1777 until the George Rose Act of 1812 introduced standardised printed registers. I have been delving into my family history for more than 35 years and spent many an hour in Records Offices, Libraries etc. It was a revolution when things started coming out on CD and then on-line, but there's sometimes still no substitute for visiting Record Offices.
Just a thought to try and tie-in the Cook and Pearson surnames, you say you have Sarah Russell's info - what information was given about her parentage, and did she have any siblings???? Sometimes going up and down the generations of parents and siblings comes up with snippets of information.
Goughy
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