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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: MissyJ137 on Sunday 09 August 15 08:33 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
I'm trying to find the death for Sidney L ALLEN, possibly in NSW. Born in 1894 in Deniliquin to parents John ALLEN and Emily Keswick ACKROYD.
I only have his birth and no electoral roll or death details.
Many thanks,
MissyJ
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NSW BDM is online:
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
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I've tried and found nothing under his name.
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Deleted incorrect data.
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Hi Cando,
This is a different Sidney ALLEN and not the one I'm looking for.
Thanks,
MissyJ
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The Independent 24 Dec 1929
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/101680225?
..obit for Emily ALLEN......children named, including Sidney
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The Hillston Spectator and Lachlan River Advertiser 13 Sep 1951
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/131048137?
obit for William Thomas ALLEN......brothers James (Griffith), Jack (Woy Woy), Robert (Douglas Park), Alfred (Deniliquin)...two sisters deceased.
(Sidney not named)
NSW BDM death
23918/1951 ALLEN William Thomas
parents John / Emily Keswick Hillston
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Divorce - Sidney Leslie ALLEN:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16727121
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16789845
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Divorce - Emily Ethel ALLEN & Sidney Leslie ALLEN (also known as Henry Eric Smith):
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\354286
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Possibly this death :-\
Henry SMITH d. 1952 ARDLETHAN #23624
Parents: John & Emily
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Wow! This may explain why there is very little information in his birth name.
Many thanks,
Missy J
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Death notice for Henry Eric Smith who died 1952
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18293171
Regards
Ros
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None of the names in the death notice belong to his siblings. All 4 of his sisters (Mary, Emily, Annie & Margaret) and brother (William) were deceased by 1952 and living brothers were James, John, Robert and Alfred.
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Death notice for Henry Eric Smith who died 1952
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18293171
Different one Ros ;)
His 1952 death is on the NSW BDM as Henry Eric SMITH d. RANDWICK #32284
Parents: John & Mary Jane
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http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article141802613
The Australasian 2 Aug 1930
Missing Friends.
TN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEW
SOUTH WALES.-Matrimonial Causes Jurisdiction (No. 867 of 1930).-Between EMILY ETHEL ALLEN, Petitioner, and SIDNEY LESLIE ALLEN (also known as Henry Eric Smith), Respondent. To Sidney Leslie Allen (also known as Henry Eric Smith), late of Hobart, Tasmania, formerly of Tullibigeal, New South Wales, take notice that the said Emily Ethel Alien has commenced a suit against you in this Honorable Court, and is applying for a divorce on the ground:-That you have, without just cause or excuse, wilfully deserted ber and without any such cause or excuse left her continuously so deserted during three years and upwards. And take notice that you are required to ENTER an APPEARANCE to the said suit at the proper office of this Honorable Court on or before the seventeenth day of October, 1930, and in the event of your not doing so within the time limited or obtaining further time the Petitioner will, proceed and the suit be heard and determined your absence notwith standing.
A copy of the petition Bled herein may be had on application to the undersigned solicitor free of charge.
Dated this 21st day of July, 1930.
For the Registrar, (Signed.) C. K. BODY
Chief Clerk in Divorce.
Robert William Fraser, solicitor for the petitioner, Williamson House, 61 Castlereagh street, Sydney.
Was Henry Eric SMITH secretary to the Slaughtermen’s Union in Tasmania
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article189804742
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article23487356
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66544744
Cando
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This MAY be your Henry SMITH.
Buried at Ardlethan, Section RC, Row 0, Grave#6
SMITH H Unmarked grave No date of death.
Cando
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Just to muddy the waters I've found a Sydney Leslie ALLEN born 6 Dec 1893 in South Australia to parents John ALLEN and Emily Helena THOMAS :-\
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Perhaps if you could tell us how you are connected to Sidney or why you are seeking information about him? The more information we have the better result you may receive.
Cando
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Emily Keswick ACKROYD is the daughter of my 4x great grandfather William. She's the eldest daughter of his second marriage after the death of his first wife.
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Well the birth of a Sidney Leslie ALLEN in SA is not of any interest then.
An online tree which is well sourced except for the following info... Sidney Leslie ALLEN died 18 Aug 1964 and no further detail. I always treat online trees with caution.
Cando
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I could photograph the divorce merlin found if it is of interest, the next time I am at new state records
Regards,
Ros
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Ros I would be interested to know a little more about the divorce as I did a quick search and it looks like they had 3 children when he deserted the family. As long as it's not too much trouble.
I posted the information about the SA Sidney Leslie ALLEN as his parents are John and Emily, the same as my Sidney and the were born only 5 months apart. It could be easy to get their records confused.
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It's no trouble at all Missy - happy to help :)
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I posted the information about the SA Sidney Leslie ALLEN as his parents are John and Emily, the same as my Sidney and the were born only 5 months apart. It could be easy to get their records confused.
But you wrote
Emily Keswick ACKROYD is the daughter of my 4x great grandfather William. She's the eldest daughter of his second marriage after the death of his first wife.
The birth was in the Colony of South Australia so how could births in another Colony, in this case, of New South Wales, become confused. Each Colony [State after Federation] was responsible for their own BDM Registry and today each State and Territory in Australia maintains their own records.
FYI....John ALLEN and Emily Helena THOMAS were having children at Port Wakefield in the Colony of South Australia from 1881 to 1915.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Wakefield,_South_Australia
You could have checked yourself by searching the online bdm indexes at http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
I did a quick search and it looks like they had 3 children
From an online tree?
Aren't you at all interested in following up the death noted in 1964?
Cando
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Maybe I wasn't clear in what I wrote. Just meant that if the SA Sidney Leslie ALLEN moved from SA all other details on the record are almost the same at the one that I'm looking for. I don't have access to any electoral rolls from SA to confirm he didn't move interstate.
And yes I will be trying to follow-up the death in 1964 to see if it might be correct.
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OK...I misunderstood your request. The SA birth is for Sydney not Sidney. :)
There are no online electoral rolls for South Australia.
Cando
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I found 3 children on the electoral rolls living with Emily Ethel after the divorce. She remarried in 1938 to Mervyn Thomas ECCLESTONE.
Sidney James ALLEN (carpenter)
Emily Gladys ALLEN (home duties)
John Douglas ALLEN (plumber)