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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: Buttering on Wednesday 05 August 15 12:07 BST (UK)
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Four daughters of John Mundle were born Frances1884,Mary 1886, Aline 1888, Caroline1890. in Whitehaven I .am trying to find any descendants and the name of their Mother.
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Any of the Birth Certificates will show the mother's maiden name.
But, from FreeBMD:
Marriages, June qtr 1882
Carlisle district vol 10g, page 783
Mundle, John
+ and on the same page +
Dixon, Jane
Forrest, Margaret
Find the family on the 1891 census, and she should be able to work out who the mother is?
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This looks like the family in 1891 Whitehaven Cumberland
John Mundle 37 Born Uldale. Cumberland.
Catherine A Mundle 37 Born I.O.M.
Frances E Mundle 7 Mary C Mundle 5
Aline J Mundle 3 Caroline A Mundle 1
Henry Crellin 14 Step-son John R Crellin 12 Step-son
Henry Jopson 29 Lodger.
RG12 Piece 4314 Folio 6 Page 5
Sandra
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OK! RE-think on the marriage! ;D
Marriages, September qtr 1883
Whitehaven district vol 10b, page 821
Mandle/Maudle, John
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Crellin, Catherine Anne
Crellin is a common Manx surname! ;D
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John Robert Crellin born 20 May 1978 passed away 8 May 1940 Nanaimo British Columbia.
Harry Crellin son was the informant.
Parents John Thomas Crellin and Catherine Teague (as transcribed) Cert says Catherine A Clague.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLKG-ZYM
Sandra
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1921 Census Nanaimo Canada
John Robert Crellin 42 Born England. Imm 1906. Miner.
Emma Crellin 41 Born Eng.
Frank Crellin 17 Born Eng.
San Crellin 15 Born Eng.
Mabel Crellin 11 Born BC
William Crellin 4 Born Australia.
Sandra
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Marriage of John Robert Crellin at Cockermouth Cumberland - Registered December 1902 - 10b 1068 - to Emma Sanders.
Sandra
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1891 census shows the following
John Mundle 37 Udale, Cumberland
Catherine A Mundle 37 born Isle of Man
Frances E Mundle 7 Whitehaven
Mary C Mundle 5 Whitehaven
Aline J Mundle 3 Whitehaven
Caroline A Mundle 1 Whitehaven
Henry Crellin 14 STEPSON Frizington
John R Crellin 12 STEPSON Frizington
Henry Jopson 29 Lodger Penrith
So his wife Catherine was married before to Unknown Crellin
looking at the Stepson
Henry Crellin on his marriage to Sarah Jane Cook on the 25 Sep 1901,Arlecdon, Cumberland, England he lists his father as John Thomas Crellin (On Ancestry)her father as John Cook.
so a marriage of John Thomas Crellin to Catherine A unknown. given that she was born in the Isle of Man I wonder if this could be the marriage
Isle of Man Marriage
John Thomas Crellin
31 Mar 1875
Marriage at Braddan,Isle of Man,England
Catherine Ann Clague.
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John Robert Crellin was with grandparents Mount Murray Braddan Isle Of Man 1881
Robert Clague 63
Catherine Clague 64
Robert W. Clague 34 Son
Henry Crellin 5 Grandson
John Robert Crellin 3 Grandson.
Sandra
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Catherine with parents 1861 Redg Dist Anglesey. Braddan Isle OF Man
Robt Clague 42 Cathr Clague 45
Stepen Clague 18 Wm Clague 16
Walter Clague 11 Lewis Clague 9
Cathr Clague 7 Isablle Clague 5
Sandra
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Death of her first husband
3rd quarter of 1880
John Thomas Crellin aged 29
Whitehaven 10b 369
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Catherine with parents 1871 -
Robert Clague 53 Born Onchan IOM
Cathereine Clague 55 Born Rushen Eng.
Walter Clague 21
Lewis Clague 19
Cathereine Clague 17 Born Santon
Isabella Clague 15
Sandra
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so a marriage of John Thomas Crellin to Catherine A unknown. given that she was born in the Isle of Man I wonder if this could be the marriage
Isle of Man Marriage
John Thomas Crellin
31 Mar 1875
Marriage at Braddan,Isle of Man,England
Catherine Ann Clague.
Transcript from www.imuseum.im:
31st March 1875, Braddan
John Thomas Crellin, Bachelor, father Charles
Catherine Anne Clague, Spinster, father Robert
P.S. the Isle of Man is NOT in England! ;D :o ;D
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Baptism: 24th September 1853, Santon, Isle of Man
Catherine Ann Clague
Parents: Robert & Catherine Clague
Possible sibling?
Baptism: 13th September 1840, Santon, Isle of Man
Elizabeth Clague
Parents: Robert & Catherine Clague
Manx baptisms almost always include the mother's maiden name.
So I am reasonably sure that Robert Clague married Catherine Clague?
If it's important I could probably look at the Parish Registers at the Manx Museum Library?
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Could be the death record for Catherine under Mandle -
Catherine A Mandle - aged 56 years - Registered Q4 1910 - Whitehaven Cumberland. 10b 417
Sandra
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Thanks to all replies. I do know most of (re the Crellins) but thanks for Sandra finding what happened to Gr uncle Robert who we know went to Canada but nothing was known since. I was dubious about Catherine Anne being the mother of the Mundle girls as we ,the family of Henry Crellin born 1876 died 1934. have never heard of them! he is listed as a stepson of John Mundle.I would still like to hear of any descendants of the girls.
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Thank s to Sandra amazingly you have found out what happened to our ancestors brother . We knew he had gone to Canada but nothing since. It opens up another chapter.