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Title: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: BarbW on Wednesday 29 July 15 15:36 BST (UK)
Hello I am looking for the above young lady who was transported for 7 years in 1847, she said she was 21.

The only likely ones I can find in 1841 are under 10 not 16 as she should be.

The only other thing I know is that she had a sister Alice in Manchester
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 29 July 15 15:48 BST (UK)
The young lady may have fibbed about her age or the age on the census wasn't accurate. 

Is Eccles where she was transported from or was that her birthplace do you know?
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 29 July 15 15:56 BST (UK)
Hi

Welcome to rootschat.  :)

Sadly the newspaper report does not give an age for her, did she return to England
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: BarbW on Wednesday 29 July 15 23:01 BST (UK)
She said her "native place" was Eccles, she was tried at Salford Sessions.

Rosie sorry I don't know what newspaper report you mean.

Very few of those transported to Australia ever returned as far as I can ascertain.
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: Blue70 on Wednesday 29 July 15 23:08 BST (UK)
Linking threads:-

http://www.forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14725


Blue
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 30 July 15 11:11 BST (UK)
Linking threads:-

http://www.forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14725


Blue

Thanks  ;D

As that thread is also current and more active I'll wait and see what information it brings up before I look for anything else. It is silly to waste time looking for things others on another web site may have already found.  ;)

The newspaper reference to Emma Hadfield under the heading Salford Sessions was in Manchester Courier on 8th September 1847.  Her name was under the section titled 'Transported 7 years' but where the others had their age mentioned she did not. The only other information was that she had stolen a sovereign from Richard Smith at Salford.

Rosie  :)
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: BarbW on Thursday 30 July 15 20:16 BST (UK)
Sorry Rosie I didn't realise I was breaching protocol by trying to cover all sources, I like to be thorough in my research.

I already have the news clipping for stealing a sovereign from Richard Smith but thank you anyway :)
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 31 July 15 14:49 BST (UK)
Hi BarbW

No need to apologise  :)   

I am just taking a break to see what information comes up on your other post, there is nothing worse than spending time on a search and then finding it has already been duplicated on another thread elsewhere.  ;D

Rosie
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: EcclesCake2003 on Monday 18 April 16 05:35 BST (UK)
  :D Hi There,

this info I found might be of some help to you regards Emma Hadfield from convict records of

 Australia

Emma Hadfield b 1825 occupation servant age 22 years

She was sentenced to 7 years for stealing a Soveriegn from a Mr Smith she

Sailed on the"  Elizabeth & Henry  ship" Feb 1848 arriving Van Demons Land 30th June 1848

I have also checked the Baptism  records in the  Parish church   " Eccles   " but no mention of her

 being baptised there

Lots of Hadfields there marriages baptisms but not her

I checked the spelling also HADFIELD also HATFIELD as  spelling mistakes quite common I know

 Eccles     well  I was born and bred there

Hope this is of some help to you


Ecclecscake2002



Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: EcclesCake2003 on Monday 18 April 16 05:49 BST (UK)
 :D

Hi this could well be your Alice Hadfield  baptised 22 July 1821 at St Thomas Church Pendleton

Daughter of Richard Greenhalgh (reputed) and Frances Hadfield

Abode Eccles

Occ Bookkeeper

I tried to find Emma s Baptism at this church   again but no luck



Ecclescake 22003
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: lancsann on Monday 18 April 16 11:28 BST (UK)
on the criminal record her age is stated as 21 in 1847. She was also convicted of larceny in 1845 age 19 when she was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment. Again at Salford Sessions.

THis age ties in with all the other info you have
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles COMPLETED
Post by: Beeonthebay on Monday 18 April 16 11:43 BST (UK)
Hello.  Thank you for searching but I am no longer researching female convicts but I'll leave this post here for future descendants who may be looking.
Title: Re: Emma Hadfield of Eccles
Post by: lancsann on Monday 18 April 16 12:48 BST (UK)
I know a tree on ancestry has this lady as married in England but I keep looking at this - living in Chorlton district

1841
Name   Age
George Kerwin   40
Ann Kerwin   40
James Kerwin   12
Elizabeth Kerwin   5
Emma Kerwin   15

When searching for Emma Hadfield on ancestry this one keeps appearing as someone has submitted a correction. She is listed under the other children even though she is older than they are which is unusual. I wonder if her mother was Ann Hadfield born before she married George.

Name   George Kerwin
Spouse's Name   Ann Hadfield
Event Date   10 May 1830
Event Place   Manchester, Lancashire, England