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Title: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: Joseph_K on Monday 27 July 15 19:51 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'm looking for some help tracking down a Gallwey family that was living in County Waterford in the latter part of the nineteenth century. All I've been able to find from newspapers, censuses and other sources is the initial of their first names.

There were two men: H.J. Gallwey and W. Gallwey
and two women (both single): A. Gallwey and F. Gallwey

They might not have been natives of County Waterford, but were certainly in Tramore in the summer of 1877.

Could anyone help in identifying any of these people?

Thanks,

J.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: heywood on Monday 27 July 15 20:06 BST (UK)
Hello and welcome.

Which censuses do you have these people in?
Are there clues re occupations or possible ages?
There are Gallweys in Tramore area so it is likely that they are from Waterford.
There is a probate entry, for example, for Henry Joseph Gallwey, 1912.
It is best to give any useful information you have collated to help others in the search.

Regards
Heywood
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: heywood on Monday 27 July 15 20:12 BST (UK)
Were your people Wine Merchants?
Have you checked Irish Census, 1901 and 1911?
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: Joseph_K on Monday 27 July 15 20:17 BST (UK)
Hi, Heywood,

Thanks for your replies. I think your Henry Joseph Gallwey might well be one of the people I'm looking for. The family might well have been wine merchants.

I can't remember exactly, but it was probably one of the newspapers available in the British Newspaper Archive that I originally found the family's name in. I also looked in places like Burke's "A genealogical and heraldic history of the landed gentry of Ireland", but to no avail.

And nary a first name! Annoying, isn't it?

J.


Were your people Wine Merchants?
Have you checked Irish Census, 1901 and 1911?
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: conahy calling on Monday 27 July 15 20:20 BST (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Tramore/Church_Road/668928/
1911 census link

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Tramore/Church_Road/1760376/
1901 census link

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Tramore/Church_Road/1760370/
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: heywood on Monday 27 July 15 20:23 BST (UK)
There are various entries in censuses 1901 and 1911. You can search here http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie

Conahycalling has given you one example.

And has now added more  :)
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: Joseph_K on Monday 27 July 15 20:23 BST (UK)
Thanks,

Unless I'm wrong the F. Gallwey I'm looking for was a "Miss" and had a sister, "Miss A. Gallwey". They were probably in their twenties circa 1880.

J.


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Tramore/Church_Road/668928/
1911 census link
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: Joseph_K on Monday 27 July 15 20:24 BST (UK)
Hi, again,

I think I mentioned in my original post that I had searched the Irish censuses, but to no avail.

J.


There are various entries in censuses 1901 and 1911. You can search here http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie

Conahycalling has given you one example.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: heywood on Monday 27 July 15 20:30 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'm looking for some help tracking down a Gallwey family that was living in County Waterford in the latter part of the nineteenth century. All I've been able to find from newspapers, censuses and other sources is the initial of their first names.

They might not have been natives of County Waterford, but were certainly in Tramore in the summer of 1877.

Could anyone help in identifying any of these people?

Thanks,

J.

This reads as though you have censuses with initials.

Henry Joseph's probate mentions William so they may well be HJ and W.
Would you like to share the 1877 information? It sounds as though it may be a newspaper report of people attending a funeral.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: heywood on Monday 27 July 15 20:40 BST (UK)
There is a published tree which has
Henry Gallway Gallwey J P  1807-1896 and Mary/Maria Walsh as parents to several children including the ones I have mentioned plus
Anne b 1857
Frances b 1858
No other details about these ladies.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 27 July 15 21:03 BST (UK)
http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/family-show.jsp?id=3529

Quite a bit here-
http://www.thepeerage.com/p39132.htm#i391312
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 28 July 15 08:11 BST (UK)
Frances Gallwey died 1904
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014913/005014913_00356.pdf

oops just noticed Frances is a widow.

search in both deceased and executors box
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp

also several hits here    search archives
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: vasaborg on Tuesday 28 July 15 10:24 BST (UK)
Henry Gallwey lived at "Clifton" on Gallweys Hill Tramore, he was the father of William Gallwey , President Waterford Chamber of Commerce in 1879. He was grandfather of Mr. T.H.E. Gallwey of Rockfield Tramore. The Waterford city whiskey bonders of Gallwey were the same family. A Henry Gallwey died 18th November 1896 aged 90 at Atlantic Terrace Tramore, he was described as a Spirit merchant.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 28 July 15 10:57 BST (UK)
January 1883 William Gallwey, eldest son of Henry Gallwey of Tramore, married Frances Davies daughter of Rev E W L Davies. The marriage was in Bath.

Two of the bridesmaids were Miss Gallwey and Miss A Gallwey, bridegroom's sisters.

Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: Joseph_K on Tuesday 28 July 15 15:34 BST (UK)
^^^^ Many thanks for the above helpful replies.

J.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 28 July 15 15:42 BST (UK)
Glad to be of help.

Do the names fit now as you seem to have discounted them in census information previously.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: myluck! on Tuesday 28 July 15 17:02 BST (UK)
Henry Gallwey m Mary J Walsh on May 27 1844 in St. Patrick's Parish

They had at least 12 children between 1845 and 1860 including those previously mentioned

Ann Mary GALLWEY m William G MULCAHY (of Newcastle, Co. Tipperary)
on Feb 25 1895 in St. Andrew's, Tramore

Mulcahy's on 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Tipperary_Rural/Ballyglass_Upper/1719591/)
and on the 1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Tipperary_Rural/Ballyglass_Upper/832368/)

Possibly Mary's baptism in 1897 - LINK (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/421ddc0267044)
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 28 July 15 17:09 BST (UK)
Thanks myluck!

That's a good find. When we have been a long time searching, it's good to know what happens. :)
I couldn't find a marriage for Ann.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: vasaborg on Tuesday 28 July 15 17:26 BST (UK)
Glad to be of help. From the burial register of St Patricks church Waterford city, 17th July 1830 William Galwey.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: myluck! on Tuesday 28 July 15 20:40 BST (UK)
Catherine Mary GALLWEY (as Kate GALWAY) m Edward BARDEN
on Aug 06 1870 in Tramore

Edward BARDEN died Jan 10 1880 and H. Gallwey was present at death

Kate BARDEN daughter was present at death of Henry GALLWEY in 1896

Kate BARDEN on 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Tramore/Priest_Road/1760150/); her daughter Ellen Mary BARDEN bap. Aug 19 1875 Tramore
and on the 1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Tramore/Priests_Road/911680/); I cannot find reference to the second child
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 28 July 15 21:28 BST (UK)
A John Barden J P of Coolcliffe House,New Ross mentioned in Edwards Will index
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014895/005014895_00022.pdf
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 29 July 15 11:36 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'm looking for some help tracking down a Gallwey family that was living in County Waterford in the latter part of the nineteenth century. All I've been able to find from newspapers, censuses and other sources is the initial of their first names.

There were two men: H.J. Gallwey and W. Gallwey
and two women (both single): A. Gallwey and F. Gallwey

They might not have been natives of County Waterford, but were certainly in Tramore in the summer of 1877.

Could anyone help in identifying any of these people?

Thanks,

J.

J.
Can you confirm now that you are happy to accept that the people you were trying to locate are
GALLWEYs - the children of Henry GALLWEY and Mary J. WALSH (age c.1877)
HJ (26) - Henry Joseph bap. Feb 27 1851; d. Jun 27 1912
           m. Aug 30 1903 Katherine E. POWER

W (30) - William Joseph b.c. Jun 02 1847; d. Jul 30 1926
           m. c1883 Frances K. T. DAVIES 1854-1938

A (20) - Ann Mary bap. Feb 17 1857; d. 1928
           m. Feb 25 1895 William Garvey Mulcahy 1855-1926 -interesting link re Ballyglass House (http://www.ballyglasshouse.com/history.html)

F (22) - Frances Mary bap. Jul 06 18 1858 no other info
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: vasaborg on Wednesday 29 July 15 12:23 BST (UK)
Frances K. T. Gallwey born 14th January 1854 died 29th March 1938,  William Gallwey born June 2nd 1847 died July 30th 1926. Buried in the graveyard of Holy Cross church Tramore.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: Joseph_K on Wednesday 29 July 15 17:58 BST (UK)
Hi,

Yes, I can confirm that that is the family in question, a very elusive one indeed. Thanks, again, to everyone who has contributed to this thread.

J.

[/quote]Can you confirm now that you are happy to accept that the people you were trying to locate are
GALLWEYs...
[/quote]
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 12 August 15 12:18 BST (UK)
Jus a bye-note
I was browsing some old books and came across the following which I found both amusing and interesting, especially as I had no real reason to start reading the little pamphlet!

It was written in 1937, so the reference to 150 years or so implies about 1790ish
Muckross Abbey is located near Killarney in Co. Kerry

Link to book’s location at NLI (http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000022274); I couldn't see it online otherwise

Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: debu on Wednesday 27 January 16 09:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Joseph the Gallwey family came from Tramore House, Church Rd, Tramore Co Waterford as follows William Gallwey married Frances T Davis, their family, Janette Phyllis, 1884, married Bernard Ed O'Neill, Gladys Florence Marie, born 1885, died 1906, Mary Frances born 1886, Henry William Dayrall, born 1887 married, Gereldine, born 1889, Thomas E J Gallway married 1928. Patrick Gallwey married Frances Burke, their family Arthur, born 1890, Mary Beatrice, married 1904. A Henry Gallwey married Maria Walsh, 3 families. hope this will help you. Jim
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 27 January 16 10:02 GMT (UK)
I suspect that the OP is searching for details of lawn tennis players. It's a shame so many people have done lots of searching to help for information that isn't really wanted and the OP doesn't bother to respond to direct questions at times  ::)

See this thread on Australia board-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=740045.0
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: Joseph_K on Wednesday 27 January 16 16:04 GMT (UK)
Hello, debu,

Many thanks for that helpful information on the Gallwey family. I haven't posted much recently and am not always able to respond immediately to replies, but I do appreciate any help and positive contributions from other members.

J.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 27 January 16 16:56 GMT (UK)
I suspect that the OP is searching for details of lawn tennis players. It's a shame so many people have done lots of searching to help for information that isn't really wanted and the OP doesn't bother to respond to direct questions at times  ::)

I don't mind why someone requests information as long as it is not for commercial reasons and I also do not believe that any research is wasted.

Many times I have seen someone post on Rootschat for the first time because they got a search engine hit on an ancestor's name.  This would not necessarily happen if we didn't flesh out the families when searching, or give probable suggestions.
Title: Re: The Gallweys of County Waterford (?)
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 27 January 16 17:12 GMT (UK)

Extract from reply 22

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731019.msg5759138#msg5759138

Quote:

Here are just 4 examples of "hobby posters"

A prolific poster who had an interest in participants of a well known sport and was a subscriber to it's website where he was thanked and applauded for the info he posted.  No mention that the info came from RC.




See

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?members/newmark401.60520/

http://www.tennisforum.com/59-blast-past/696890-four-great-early-german-female-lawn-tennis-players.html