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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: artifis on Saturday 25 July 15 17:15 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know where Union Row was in Hastings and am I right in thinking that it was demolished to make way for the extension of Bourne Street in the 1950s?
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Hello artifis
If you put into google where was Union Row Hastings,plenty of info comes up,even a photo.
It is a passage leading from the top end of All Saints Street to the Bourne,so could possible still be there.
When the holiday season is over will take a look for you .Hastings Old Town is very popular.
kind regards
omega :)
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Hi in addition, in 1901 Union Row, All Saints, Hastings had an Adams family living at number 15, census search for a Rose Adams b 1888 Hastings.
Census Ref RG13/864/66/42
Keyboard86
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Hi Omega,
I did that and saw the photo but couldn't find anything saying where it was. I've gone up and down All Saint's Street via Google Streetview and can't find the passageway so it's either been renamed or demolished but if you could look for me I'd very much appreciate it.
Hi keyboard86,
In 1901 my ancestor Whitfield Sellings was living at no. 8 Union Row hence my interest.
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Not showing on map:
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101435976#zoom=5&lat=5474&lon=2075&layers=BT
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Hi again, 1066 Genealogy suggest as part of the Old Town Clearance that Numbers 2 to 15 Union Row formed part of the Clearance or were Compulsory Purchased as part of the Bourne Clearance
Keyboard86
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Hi Keyboard I'd just found that too and was writing as you posted. :D
Looking at the 1901 census I've got a rough idea where it was and I see that Old-Maps have 1:500 scale maps of Hastings so I'll have a look and maybe get a map of the area I suspect it's in though the map I've got at that scale of the Courthouse Street area - my ancestors ran the Alma Tavern and King's Head pubs in that area in the 1800s - doesn't name some of the passageways.
I think I'll also email the Old Hastings Preservation Society in case they have maps that show it.
The same ancestor was living in Bourne Passage in the 1871 census and that was another small 'road' demolished in the Hasting's clearances.
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The Old-Maps site seems to have crashed at the moment so will try again tomorrow.
Thanks for your help.
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You can see Union Row on the 1:500 plan at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/582687/109799/13/100592 you may have to zoom out.
Stan
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Hi Stan,
That's brilliant, thanks very much.
I've slightly altered the 'centre' of the map so that it links in with one I've got further south so that I can join the two together.
This has puzzled me for some considerable time now, why didn't I think of asking on here. Doh!!! :-[
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Downloaded the map and using that counting up from the west end, off Bourne Walk, I can see which house my ancestor occupied then looking at the photo I can identify pretty well which house was his. Brilliant.
Now all I need to do is find Bourne Passage which was also demolished in the clearances.
So far I can't see it on the Old-Maps site as not being a subscriber I can't zoom in enough. Any thoughts please.
If I can find that then I've got where he lived from 1871 to 1901 on maps and photos, post that he was in Lewes running a pub which I also have.
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Oh I'm so thick, just checked the first map I downloaded and there is Bourne Passage near the top including a Providence Cottage which might help me identify the actual house using the census entries.
I do wish my two brain cells would occasionally talk to one another, would make life so much easier! ;D
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Hi Artifis
The council minutes show that a compulsory purchase order was made on the 23rd March 1934 for 8 Union Row as part of the Bourne Clerance. Bourne Passage was also part of that scheme but later in 1936/37. Unfortunately the war intervened, so after some demolition things were left till late 1950's and the 1960's
28/03/1934 Council Minutes ~ Union Row 8 House & Forecourt Debenham Harry Edgar ~ ~ ~ ~ Compulsory Acquisition
28/03/1934 Council Minutes ~ Union Row 8 Yard & Outbuildings rear of 8 & 7 Debenham Harry Edgar, Hastings Cottage Improvement Society ~ ~ ~ ~ Compulsory Acquisition
Oh, by the way, 1066Genealogy is my web site
Chris in 1066
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Hi Again
Bourne Passage ran between Bourne Road and All Saints Street - it was a continuation of Roebuck Street, but obviously a passage rather than a street.
Incidentally I have a picture of Union Row and a copy of the Official map that was used by the then planning dept to show all the demolition areas especially Bourn Passage.. They are to big to post on here, but if you send me you e-mail by private message, I will send you a copy
Chris in 1066
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Hi Chris
Have sent you a PM.
It's funny how you can batter your head against a brick wall over someone and then suddenly the wall falls down, in my case by a series of fortuitous coincidences and I now have a lot of info on two ancestors who ran the Alma Tavern and the King's Head in Hastings in the 1800s plus where they lived in-between times.
Thanks for everyone's contributions.
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Artifis
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Artifis
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