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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Leicestershire => England => Leicestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Jomot on Sunday 19 July 15 23:28 BST (UK)
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My Gibson's - also known as Clarke - continue to drive me insane!
William Clarke married either Fanny Goodwin or Fanny Flowers in the second half of 1883. In 1891 they appear to be living in Cross Cumberland Street, All Saints so I'm hoping that's where they married.
If anyone has access to these records I'm hoping that William names his father as Benjamin, and if so would appreciate details of which Fanny he married.
From the census they don't seem to have had any children until almost 10-years later, which is another puzzle, so if there are any baptisms and/or burials then that would be a bonus.
Many thanks in advance.
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I had a ferret around in some newly acquired discs... but I am afraid they don't go past 1837 :( sorry.
xin
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Have you seen the 1911 census? We are not allowed to post details on here but I would be looking for a marriage a little later on FreeBMD c 1886 and leaving the 'e' off Clark.
Sorry - this adds another contender :)
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Have you seen the 1911 census? We are not allowed to post details on here but I would be looking for a marriage a little later on FreeBMD c 1886 and leaving the 'e' off Clark.
Sorry - this adds another contender :)
I know I should be grateful, and I am really (honest!), but I think I'm going to scream :-X
William grew up in the Bedford Street area of St Margaret and has no known connection to Rutland so I hadn't even looked for a marriage outside of the Leicester RD, but I certainly cant rule it out.
Hopefully someone will have the records for All Saints for the right period & can put me out of my misery, but if not then it looks like I'll need to add to my growing collection of CD's / Transcripts as it'll still be cheaper to rule the 1883 ones out that way then to purchase yet more certificates - and of course I always pick the right one last, to the point where I'm thinking of wallpapering the room with them ::)
PS Thanks for looking too Xin x
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Hi
I have just checked my disc from the LRFHS - the Leicester Borough Marriage Index 1837-1911 and it has William Clark marrying Fanny Goodwin on 6 September 1883 at St Lukes Church. No other details.
Sandra
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If you order the marriage cert from the GRO without entering any vol or page number, entering just the year, on the second page you can state that the groom's father's name must be Benjamin. That way if it isn't you get a refund. :)
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It looks to me that the marriage is the Dec.1883 one to Fanny Flowers (the Wm to Fanny Goodwin Sept.1883 was actually born Rutland and this pair emigrated to US in 1912 - various trees on ancestry).
Fanny Flowers born Leicester ca.1863 appears in 1871 and 1881 census then no more - so married to William Clarke?? (The other possible William Clark/e marriages to a Fanny showed these women were not born in Leicester as the Fanny of your William was.
Annette
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Thanks for the replies. Following the William Clarke who married Fanny Goodwin I see his parents were John & Lucy and as mentioned, he was born in Rutland, so Fanny Flowers certainly seems the most likely suspect although I remain intrigued as to where they married. For all that my lot lived in St Margaret for around 30-years or more, I haven't found a single baptism or marriage for them there :-\
Many thanks for all the help
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Hi
Just checked my disc again. Fanny Flowers and William Clarke married 7 October 1883 in St Nicholas Church
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you very much for that information, its very helpful.
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Have found these baptisms so far
Church Of The Martyrs
CLARKE JOSEPH 1894 WILLIAM & FANNY 15-Apr
St Stephens
CLARKE ELIZABETH 1902 WILLIAM & FANNIE 28-Jul
CLARKE HORACE 1902 WILLIAM & FANNIE 28-Jul
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Thanks for those - I just wish I knew Leicester better as all these different churches have my head spinning. Why can't I have a nice family that just sit still, stick with one surname & have their children baptised the year they were born ???
Well at least I have my weekend sorted trying to make sense of everyone & everywhere, but if you find any more I wont turn them down ;)
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My pleasure, will have another look tomorrow :)
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If I can help with your knowledge of Leicester --- I used to know it like the back of my hand... many moons ago now. But I may be able to help.
xin
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Oooh guess what I found...
apologies for following with sad news but Thomas died, he was previously bought out of the 3rd Leics Regt.
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Thomas Clarke
Gender: Male
Document Year: 1914
Residence Place: 50 Elm St, Leicester
Regimental Number: 296
Other Regimental Numbers: 200568
Regiment Name: Batt Leicestershire ??
Number of Images: 17
Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation
Pg 171086
At 30 Elm Street
William...father
Fanny...mother
Joseph 25
Ernest 14
Elizabeth 17
Bath Street Belgrave
Joseph 25
HORACE 20 30 Syston Street
I can see something about an illness and the there is a letter 1918 forwarding effects, Fanny signs the letters
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And on the other site
WO 363 British Army Service Records 1914-1920
First name Thomas
Last name Clarke
Service number 11175
Regiment Leicestershire Regiment
Unit / Battalion 3rd Battalion
Event year 1912
Age 17
Birth year 1895
Birth town Leicester
Birth county Leicestershire
Birth country England
including Horace... 30 Elm Street all but William Bath Street I think
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CWCG
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/118680/CLARKE,%20THOMAS
Date of Death 10/07/1918
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that is looking interesting :)
xin
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And Joseph too
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Joseph Clarke
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1893
Enlistment Age: 22
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 30 Elm St, Leicester
Regimental Number: 5716
Just noticed Thomas's second record is on both sites, mother as Annie
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It is isn't it, just looking for Horace
and if they stayed in Leicester, what do you think about this death?
Fanny Clarke
Birth year 1864
Age 74
Q 1 1938 Leicester 7A/273
The other one is Market Bos and have found Fanny E in burials
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Do you think Horace might be at Ratby 'later on'?
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Absent voters list 1919
CLARKE JOSEPH 7968 ELM STREET WEST HUMBERSTONE
CLARKE THOMAS 7969 ELM STREET WEST HUMBERSTONE
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I haven't had chance to log on today before now, but I certainly wasn't expecting to see this much!! Yet again Willsy, thank you so much for all your searching on my behalf, I honestly cant express how much I appreciate it :)
Id quickly looked for Horace the other day and think he may be in an industrial school, but with work & family I've been so busy haven't been able to dig any further as yet.
I'm certainly going to have a busy weekend though, aren't I? And Xin, thanks for the offer of helping with my Leicester geography - I may yet need it as modern Google maps can only help so much and the Gibson's / Clarke's certainly liked to move from church to church.
I'm hoping to take early retirement next year so a visit to Leicester is definitely on the cards. I can trace the Gibson's back to the mid 1700's in Twyford so I'm really looking forward to seeing there too. This is my dad's paternal side and I'd love to take him with me and tell him the story of who and where he came from, but time is against me on that score so all of this help is just invaluable.
Many thanks again, and roll on the weekend ;D
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Enjoy your weekend, lots for you to look at :)
Did have a look and the link to Desford has gone unfortunately
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Another trip for you to plan
Welford Road Burials
R 2226 C
BURROWS HARRIET 1863 MAY 21 14 METCALF STREET SAINT MARGARET
HAYWOOD JOSEPH WILLIAM 1886 JAN 8 6MTHS SHERRARD STREET SAINT GEORGE
BROWN ARTHUR 1895 JAN 7 36 BATEMANS ROW SAINT MARGARET
CLARKE WILLIAM 1921 JUN 13 66 38 ELM STREET LEICESTER
CLARKE FANNY 1938 FEB 2 74 16 NORTHFIELDS ROAD LEICESTER
Thank goodness for Elm Street ;D
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Death reg
William Clarke
Birth year 1855
Age 66
Q2 1921 Leicester 7A/240
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Willsy
I've just realised I didn't thank you for those last two pieces of information, so thank you!
The Welford Road burial info has been fantastic so I've just invested in a copy of the CD along with a few others, so hopefully I can give something back as well as furthering my own research.
Thanks again
Jomot
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That's OK, they have a website too
http://www.fowrcl.org.uk/