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Title: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: craven481 on Saturday 18 July 15 14:01 BST (UK)
One of my wife's ancestors, John Dickinson , was baptised at All Saints, Wigan on 12 June 1803 and the register says, 8th son of Richard Dickinson of Whirley, weaver.

I've Googled the name Whirley without success.  The nearest that comes up is Wheeley!

Does anyone know where Whirley was/is?  When Richard's first 5 children were baptised, 1787-1895, his abode was listed as Aspull.  His next 4, 1797-1803,  abode Whirley.  And his last 4, 1805-1815, abode Scholes.

Aspull and Scholes are well documented but nothing on Whirley.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 18 July 15 14:20 BST (UK)
There's a Whirley west of Macclesfield

maps.nls.uk/view/102341062
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 18 July 15 14:21 BST (UK)
There's a Whirley west of Macclesfield

http://maps.nls.uk/view/102341062
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: BashLad on Saturday 18 July 15 14:28 BST (UK)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whelley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whelley)

I had to find that for some of my ancestors too.

(For them it had been spelt "warley").
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 18 July 15 14:40 BST (UK)
Whelley was commonly pronounced Whirley https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=SaM-AQAAMAAJ&q=whirley+wigan&dq=whirley+wigan&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFAQ6AEwCGoVChMInb_V6-TkxgIVhBfbCh19QAh1
Whelley is shown on this map http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344045#zoom=5&lat=8275&lon=13559&layers=BT

Stan
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: ScouseBoy on Saturday 18 July 15 17:03 BST (UK)
I used to live in Wigan.   I think the place is Whalley.   You may like to check that,  it is a district of Wigan.
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 July 15 17:14 BST (UK)
I used to live in Wigan.   I think the place is Whalley.   You may like to check that,  it is a district of Wigan.

it's Whelley on a modern map - near Haigh Country Park https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.5530174,-2.6171927,15z?hl=en-gb

Is that what you mean?
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: ScouseBoy on Saturday 18 July 15 17:18 BST (UK)
It took me ages to get used to Wigan pronunciation.

The Bus was called a Buzz.

The greeting was:   "Are you All reet"
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 18 July 15 17:19 BST (UK)
I used to live in Wigan.   I think the place is Whalley.   You may like to check that,  it is a district of Wigan.

it's Whelley on a modern map - near Haigh Country Park https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.5530174,-2.6171927,15z?hl=en-gb

Is that what you mean?

As I posted Whelley is shown on this map http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344045#zoom=5&lat=8275&lon=13559&layers=BT

Stan
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 July 15 17:24 BST (UK)
Stan,

Using your first post re the map, I then found the modern map. I was asking ScouseBoy if it was the same place as his Whalley reference and not ignoring your information.

Heywood
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 18 July 15 17:39 BST (UK)
I used to live in Wigan.   I think the place is Whalley.   You may like to check that,  it is a district of Wigan.


There is a Whalley House http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344045#zoom=5&lat=7280&lon=6525&layers=BT which is on the west side of Wigan.

Stan
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: craven481 on Sunday 19 July 15 09:15 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  You've all been so helpful.

I followed Stan's link re Whelley [my spelling in my posting was an error, double e instead of double l] and it took me to an extract from An Archaeological and Historical Magazine Chiefly Relating to the Lancashire and Cheshire, Volume 1 published 1880 and the extract clearly states: "Whelley, commonly pronounced Whirley..."

I think the Macclesfield one is a bit far from the other Dickinson locations and Whalley House on the wrong side of town.
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 19 July 15 09:20 BST (UK)
Agreed - Whirley, Macclesfield certainly not a candidate!
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: brephy on Saturday 25 July 15 12:08 BST (UK)
Scholes runs into Whelley and Whelley into Aspull so it seems the family moved about the same area.  At that time most baptisms took place at All Saints which is the parish church of Wigan.
Title: Re: Whirley, Wigan
Post by: craven481 on Sunday 26 July 15 10:50 BST (UK)
Thanks both of you for those last two comments.  I now feel confident that our Dickinsons lived in Whelley.