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Title: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: kerryb on Wednesday 15 July 15 15:40 BST (UK)
Hi

Another Michel details to check from Ancestry trees please.

Louis John married Alicia Bell on 21 October 1844 at St James Old Cathedral, Victoria, Australia

and he died 24 September 1904 at Carlton North, Melbourne, Australia.  He seems to appear in the Australian Dictionary of Biography as a gold discover.  I bet he felt pleased with himself, a number of his brothers back home were Tin workers!

I really appreciate this.

Thanks

Kerryb :)
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 15 July 15 16:02 BST (UK)
Index Wills, Probate and Administration Records http://www.rootschat.com/links/01foe/
Louis J. Michel, Rate Collector, Nth Carlton, date of death 14July1904[sic] should be 14Sep1904
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 15 July 15 16:17 BST (UK)
Some mentions:
The Argus 28Dec1895 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/8885855
Also in The Australasian 4Jan1896 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/139719736
Death and funeral notice: The Argus 15Sep1904 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/10340116
The Week 23Sep1904 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/181114010
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: kerryb on Wednesday 15 July 15 16:50 BST (UK)
Thanks again cupolife, that's really interesting stuff.

Kerryb
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 15 July 15 16:59 BST (UK)
The Argus 31Aug1874 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5877494
Marriages.
ABBOTT—MICHEL.—On the 27th inst., at the residence of the bride's father, by the Rev. Irving Hetherington, Robert Henry, youngest son of George Abbott, Woodstock, to Alicia Caroline, eldest daughter of L. J. Michel, Melbourne.
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 15 July 15 17:08 BST (UK)
The Argus 3Dec1894 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/8723444
DEATHS
ABBOTT - On the 30th ult. at his residence, 541 Lygon street, North Carlton, Robert Henry, dearly beloved husband of  Alicia Caroline Abbott, late of Donnybrook, and Glenroy, aged 46 years. 
Funeral notice same page
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 15 July 15 17:27 BST (UK)
The Australasian 28Nov1896 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/139734177
DEATHS.
ABBOTT.—On the 24th November, at Oak-park, Bayswater, Leslie Bell, youngest son of  Alicia Caroline and the late Robert Henry Abbott, late of Prince's Hill, North Carlton, aged 12 years.

The Argus 5 Feb1919 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1427680
DEATHS.
ABBOTT. - On the 2nd February, at Hoddle street, Clifton ? (of pneumonic influenza),  Alicia Caroline, relict of the late Robert Henry Abbott, beloved mother of Mrs. F. G. Morgan, Preston; H. N. and Lewis G., of Western Australia, aged 73 years. Born in Melbourne. (Interred privately, 3rd February.)
At rest.
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 15 July 15 17:34 BST (UK)
The Argus 4Aug1875 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/11521439
MICHEL. - On the 3rd inst., at her residence, 83 Flinders-street east, in the 50th year of her age, after a long and painful illness, Alicia, the beloved wife of Mr. L. J. Michel.
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: kerryb on Wednesday 15 July 15 19:35 BST (UK)
Thank you cupolife, I've been reading the will, which is very interesting, it appears Louis had three granddaughters all called Alicia, as well as his wife and daughter.  Must have been confusing at Christmas!

Kerryb
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 16 July 15 05:42 BST (UK)
Hi,

1859 Melbourne Directory (Tanner)
Michel. Louis John, contractor, 201 Lonsdale St, East.

1880 Melbourne Directory (Sands)
Michel. Louis J, 1 Murchison St, Carl.

1892 Melbourne Directory (Sands)
Michel Louis J, 541 Lygon St, N Carlton.


Gerry
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cando on Thursday 16 July 15 05:59 BST (UK)
Death registration
MICHEL Louis John
Father Michel Louis John  Mother Elizabeth WILLIS
At Carlton North   1904  79 years  Reg#8071

Interred at Melbourne General Cemetery  Church of England  Section L  Grave#289N

WRIGHT

In loving memory of
Louis John MICHEL
who died 14 Sep 1904
in his 83rd year
A colonist of 65 years
his beloved wife
Alicia
who died 3 Aug 1875
aged 49 years.
their beloved daughter
Ruth Elizabeth WRIGHT
who died 30 Aug 1881
aged 26 years.

I have some further info but having endless problems with the internet today. Joys of living in the bush. I will post later. 

Cando
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: kerryb on Thursday 16 July 15 07:13 BST (UK)
Thank you Cando, very interesting.  Especially that it says mother Elizabeth Willis, the trees I have seen have her as Elizabeth Watts which I can find no record of.  I shall go and try Willis and see what comes up.

Kerryb :)
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cando on Thursday 16 July 15 08:12 BST (UK)
http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/miscpics/gid/slv-pic-aab24362
His handwritten notes in 1892 on a photograph of himself states he was born 1825 Surrey.

Cando
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cando on Thursday 16 July 15 08:27 BST (UK)
Quote from: kerryb on Thursday 16 July 15 07:13 BST (UK)
Thank you Cando, very interesting.  Especially that it says mother Elizabeth Willis, the trees I have seen have her as Elizabeth Watts which I can find no record of.  I shall go and try Willis and see what comes up.

Kerryb :)

Information on death certificates only as good as the knowledge of the informant.  Pity he married before civil registration in Victoria.  I treat all online trees with caution as so many simply copy and paste other's research.  I haven't looked at any trees as I'm having problems with a very, very slow internet today. 

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: cando on Thursday 16 July 15 10:13 BST (UK)
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/michel-louis-john-4195

Mother named as WATTS.


Cando
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: kerryb on Thursday 16 July 15 10:55 BST (UK)
What a nice looking man! 

You are quite right about trees which is why I am going through the information and checking it.  Some say Watts and some say Willis, which I cannot find any links to at all.  I imagine one tree saw Willis on that record and copied and so others copy and so on and so on.

I have his baptism record, 1825 in Surrey.  Unfortunately for the baptisms, there is a gap in the right area between his early siblings and the brother born before him in the records available online.  Typical!  So I am checking out what records I can online and so far can agree that all the children bar one did exist.  I think I may have found a late one that nobody else has.  Hmmmm

Kerryb :)
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: xav-sega on Sunday 03 June 18 11:58 BST (UK)
Headstone of Louis John & Alicia Michel. My Great Great Great Grandparents. 541 Lygon St North carlton. now a school yard. Alicia was the family name from the Bell Family, thats why there are a few of them. Caroline & Elizabeth are family names from the Michel side, perhaps the Watts line.
Title: Re: Louis John Michel married 1844 Victoria and died 1904 Melbourne
Post by: kerryb on Monday 04 June 18 16:49 BST (UK)
Again Thank you!  Very much appreciated.

Kerryb