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Title: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: sailing9 on Tuesday 07 July 15 22:09 BST (UK)
I am requesting help from those who have pictures/ list of inscriptions for this old graveyard to see if there are any headstones for family listed below.  I know they are buried in Old Rashee based on newspaper death notices/family groupings.  If there are any markers, where are they in proximity to the burial hut ?
William Barklie Strange, died November 16,1866
Mary (Johnson) Strange, died (May?) 1841
Sarah Elizabeth Strange (child) died in 1820's, 1830's
Christina Strange Redpath, died June 2, 1876

Samuel Elliott, died April 19, 1892
Mary Ann Strange Elliott, died March 12, 1901
Sarah Elliott (child), died April 16, 1881
Agnes Elliott Morton, died February 28, 1907
Christina Strange Elliott (child) died in 1850's

Agnes Fleming Elliott, died November 6, 1903
Samuel Elliott, died September 1, 1905
John Fleming Elliott, died June 27, 1905
Mary Ann Strange Elliott (child) died February 25, 1887     Thank you for any help.
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 07 July 15 22:24 BST (UK)
https://www.google.com/search?q=old+rashee+graveyard&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: sailing9 on Wednesday 08 July 15 14:13 BST (UK)
Thank you for the reply giving all the websites and prior messages.  Many I had read before.  Still hoping someone may have lists/photos of inscriptions to check for me; if not will consider paying to see what Ulster Historical Foundation has or spend a day doing the stone search when I next return to visit.
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: glensman on Wednesday 08 July 15 17:09 BST (UK)
The website :

http://www.discovereverafter.com/

has records for this cemetery.  At a quick look I could see some Barklies but perhaps not the ones you are seeking. I could see a number of Barklies and Elliotts in Kilbride cemetery which is not far away.  Worth a search.
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 08 July 15 18:15 BST (UK)
Quite a few sites from link I posted like http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rasheeoldcemetery/

Quote: 


Rashee Old Cemetery is outside Ballyclare Co. Antrim Northern Ireland.

During my family research I have discovered people who have been buried there but no headstone exists  today.  As far as I know the Grave Register is not available to the Public so I am looking to put together a list as people buried at the cemetery.

If you know of any one who was buried in Rashee Old Cemetery graveyard then please contact (email address).....




This is a quote from one of the links!! 

Have you contacted that person?
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: sailing9 on Friday 10 July 15 12:16 BST (UK)
Thank you for the lead to check everlasting site - did not have the ones I want but did give a lead on one  from another Elliott family branch from the Kilbride list.  Having some difficulty getting back to the email for giving list of info on burials at Old Rashee but will try again. 
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: Peggy13 on Sunday 26 July 15 18:57 BST (UK)
Hello, Sailing9
I am wondering if William Barklie Strange who died in 1866 was the father of Hugh Strange and Mary A. Strange. I have a William B. Strange who is the father of Hugh Strange who married Margaret Gardner and had a son also Hugh who married my Jane Waddell Beggs. Hugh born abt 1826 died in 1907 in Doagh.
I do not have a spouse yet for Mary A. Strange born 1832, maybe it was Elliott.
Hoping to hear from you.
Peggy
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: sailing9 on Sunday 26 July 15 21:53 BST (UK)
Yes, William Barklie Strange was the father of Hugh Stuart Strange, born July 21, 1824.  He married Mary Johnson at First Ballyeaston on September 5, 1823.  His son Hugh had two marriages, first to Margaret Smyth on December 31, 1850 at First Ballyeaston.  They had at least two children who survived, Mary b. about 1851 and Margaret b. about 1853. The first wife Margaret Smyth Strange died sometime in the 1850's.  Then the marriage to Margaret Garner.  I have the rest of Hugh's children, etc. and yes I have that his son Hugh married Jane Wadell Beggs. 
I have a handmade booklet from 1841 - 1842 that we believe belonged to William Barklie Strange.  I think that was the year his wife died.  He had someone write out the date of his marriage and the names and birthdates of all his surviving children.  In the 1950's my grandfather moved back to Northern Ireland and spent a lot of time trying to interview and find Strange relatives.  I have all of his notes and have added a lot of information on the whole family.  Please email me to let me know what information would be helpful for you to have - glad to share.  Also I would like more specifics on your branch.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 27 July 15 01:36 BST (UK)
Hi Sailing9,
Would you happen to have parents for Mary Johnson. I have other Johnstons in my tree who may or may not be connected. I only have 2 children for William Barklie Strange - Hugh and Mary A. although I must say that I have not researched the Strange family extensively.
The parents of my Jane Waddell Beggs were Robert Beggs and Jane Beggs nee Beggs.
Hugh and Jane Waddell Beggs emigrated to Canada where Hugh died Sept 25, 1948 in Calgary, Alberta,Canada and Jane died Apr 15,1960 in Orange, California, USA where she went to live with her son Hugh after her husband Hugh died.
Jane's brother Robert also emigrated as did her sister Susan Caroline Lucy Anne.
Peggy
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: sailing9 on Monday 27 July 15 11:43 BST (UK)
Dear Peggy,
Thank you for the info on Hugh and Jane Strange and their emigration.  Unfortunately I do not have the names of parents of either Mary Johnson/ Johnston or William Barklie Strange.  By applying the Irish/Scot naming pattern, Mary's parents could be Robert Johnson/Johnston and Janet Todd.  William Barklie Strange's could be Hugh Stuart Strange and Christina Barklie. Plan to check the 1813 First Ballyeaston church census for this guess.
Please let me know if you find any fit.  This is who I have for children of William Barklie Strange and Mary Johnson:

Hugh Stuart Strange, b. July 21, 1824--you have info
Janet Todd Strange (called Jenney) b. April 24, 1826
Christiana Strange b. Feb. 28, 1828  married Robert Redpath
Sarah Elizabeth Strange b. Feb. 28, 1828     (died young)
Mary Anne Strange b. Jan. 16, 1830  married Samuel Elliott
Robert Strange b. June 5, 1832      (I think he likely died between 1841 and 1858)
Elizabeth Strange b. August 8, 1834  married Robert Leathem
Agnes (Nancy) Strange b. Sept. 5, 1836 married James Hart
Sarah Jean Strange b. Jan. 16, 1839  Married John Crowe in Belfast

If you need more, please let me know. 
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 27 July 15 13:30 BST (UK)
May be a connection with William Barklie of Rashee-

Letters of Administration of the personal estate of William Barklie late of Rashee County Antrim Farmer deceased who died 23 February 1877 at the Lunatic Asylum at Belfast same County a Bachelor were granted at Belfast to James Barklie of Lismenary (Ballynure) same County Farmer a Brother of the deceased.
www.proni.gov.uk
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: sailing9 on Monday 27 July 15 19:40 BST (UK)
Dear aghadowey,
Thank you for the Barklie information.  Working on a guess, using the Naming Pattern, then I think William Barklie Strange's mother was Christina Barklie and her father could have been William Barklie, a brother of James and William.  William Barklie Strange was born either about 1787 or 1797 but the time line would fit.  I had just seen the info on the McKinney books which was new to me.  I have added to my list of things to look at at PRONI when I visit Belfast this fall.  This may be a perfect resource for all the names I have for that time period.  Hume/McMurren/Patterson/Seaton/Strange/Barklie/Elliott/Connor/Taylor
I wasn't expecting to get anything before 1800, but this opens up possibilities.  Thank you again.
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: lollyjo on Friday 25 September 15 19:52 BST (UK)
Dear Sailing9:

The names you listed in your inquiry connect with many names in my own family.  My great grandfather's name was William Barclay Strange. He immigrated from his home in Ballyclare, Antrim first to Delaware, USA in 1881 and then continued on to Oregon the next year where he married Annie Morrow (whose family had immigrated from Glenarm, Antrim several years earlier).  William's younger brother Adam Strange immigrated with him.  I wonder if the change in the spelling of Barklie/Barclay occurred at his immigration.  One of William's sisters (Mary Ann) who remained in Antrim, married Robert Elliott. The oldest sister (Margaret) also remained in Antrim and married John Boyd.  Their parents' names were Adam and Mary Ann White Strange.  According to Mary Ann's obituary, she was buried in Rashee Old Cemetery in December 1917.  The whole family were very devoted Presbyterian Covenanters.

In your research, if you come across any connections between our families I would be delighted to hear about it.  Beyond the father Adam Strange, I have no further names.  I know they had come from Scotland, but have no details.  My mother says her Grandfather Strange had a very heavy Scottish brogue, so the move from Scotland to Northern Ireland had probably been recent.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 25 September 15 20:39 BST (UK)
You probably know but William Barclay Strange's grave is found on findagrave.com
Birth:    Dec. 21, 1849
Carrickfergus
County Antrim, Northern Ireland
Death:    Oct. 31, 1921
Clackamas County
Oregon, USA

I don't know if this is Adam but found this
Strange, Adam 93269779
Burial:
Mountain View Cemetery
Oregon City
Clackamas County
Oregon, USA
Plot: Section MASONIC,Block 90,Lot 1
b. unknown d. unknown
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 26 September 15 10:12 BST (UK)
My mother says her Grandfather Strange had a very heavy Scottish brogue, so the move from Scotland to Northern Ireland had probably been recent.

On the contrary- the accent in this area can be very similar to that of Ayrshire so the family could have been in Ireland for generations and still have retained what your mother thought was a Scottish accent.
Title: Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
Post by: sailing9 on Thursday 01 October 15 10:58 BST (UK)
Dear lollyjo,
I am writing to clarify that my great great great grandfather, William Barklie Strange, was born in Northern Ireland either 1787 or 1797 (likely around Carrickfergus), was a weaver, and died in Whiteabbey, Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland in 1866.  He never emigrated to America so he is not the same as your family member.  There is no indication of the name Adam Strange in his branch of the family and neither of his two sons were given this name. There may well be some distant connection but I am not able to help with this at this time.  I do recall seeing in the tax revision logs for Carrickfergus an area, Weaver's Row, with many Stranges renting properties.  Could be an avenue to explore for Adam Strange, if you have not already tried.  Best wishes in your search.  Sailing 9