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Title: isabella masters
Post by: liddell on Monday 29 June 15 21:09 BST (UK)

i am looking for more information  on Isabella daughter of William Masters and Ann Hope, she was born in 1875 in Sunderland

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: groom on Monday 29 June 15 21:17 BST (UK)

Transcribed incorrectly on 1881, but original looks like Masters


RG11; Piece: 5006; Folio: 68; Page: 20
108 Whitburn St Monkwearmouth Shore
 
Willm. Mushens   35     Horse shoes  (Blacksmith)   Warwickshire
Annie Mushens   25                                             Sund, Durham
Isabella Mushens   6                                       Sund, Durham
Geo.W. Mushens           5                                       Sund, Durham
Sarah A. Mushens   3                                       Sund, Durham
William Mushens           1                                       Sund, Durham

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: chempat on Monday 29 June 15 22:13 BST (UK)

Are you trying to find out what happened to her, or information about all the family if you were not able to find them in 1881?

Have you found her birth on free bmd?

Added: Brother's birth?
Births September quarter  1875   George Watson Masters  Sunderland   10a  705

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 29 June 15 22:26 BST (UK)

Hi same difficulty with birth for Isabella,  in 1891 no Isabella,  rest of family plus new additions RG12/4149/101/38
Keyboard86

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: chempat on Monday 29 June 15 22:27 BST (UK)

William's birth?
Births September quarter 1879  William Masters    Sunderland    10a   653

Sarah Ann's?
Births June quarter  1878  Sarah Ann Hope     Sunderland    10a   727

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: chempat on Monday 29 June 15 22:34 BST (UK)

Previous post - would have saved me trying to find a marriage for William and Ann etc:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=705172.msg5481292#msg5481292

including:
'Isabella died in 1903 in Warwick  at the Hatton Asylum'

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: chempat on Monday 29 June 15 22:40 BST (UK)

If this is the death your refer to elsewhere, her year of birth would be 1873/1874  not the 1875 in your original post on here.

Deaths September quarter 1903
 Isabella Masters  age  29    Warwick    6d   333

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: groom on Monday 29 June 15 23:01 BST (UK)

Can they be found in 1901 - I presume either the family moved to Warwickshire or Isabella did if she died there?

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: chempat on Monday 29 June 15 23:14 BST (UK)

From that link that I posted William was born in Warwickshire and moved to Sunderland, and from other posts he died before 1901

'Can anyone help with more info. on William Masters born c.1845 in Wark Northumberland or Warwickshire ,he lived in Monkwearmouth Sunderland with his wife ? Ann Hope. He was a blacksmith or horse shoer . I have his death cert. 12.04. 1893 . But cannot find a record of his birth or marriage.'

Annie with some children(including William age 21) is still in Sunderland in 1901

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: groom on Monday 29 June 15 23:17 BST (UK)

I can't find Isabella after 1881 - I wonder if she was sent to her paternal grandparents and was in the asylum from quite an early age?

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: chempat on Monday 29 June 15 23:19 BST (UK)

I tried looking by initials, but difficult, and as I could not see a definite birth she may have been under a different surname(or initial).

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 29 June 15 23:20 BST (UK)

Hi again,  just where is Isabella in 1891/1901 if that death is correct,  although I found a Masters/Isabella possible marriage in Aston if I recall. Annie Masters and a few from 1891 at 19, Whickham Street, Sunderland in 1901 RG13/ 4722/70/62
Keyboard86

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: chempat on Monday 29 June 15 23:35 BST (UK)

Discussion about Hatton:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=356299.0

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 29 June 15 23:45 BST (UK)

OK to get the possible Masters/Isabella marriage in 1895 Aston out of the way, he was Frank Ernest Masters b c 1875 shown as married 1901 a Widower later?
Keyboard86

Title: Re: isabella masters
Post by: liddell on Tuesday 30 June 15 16:18 BST (UK)

Thank you every one who has replied
William Masters and Ann Hope are my great grand parents , but as i can find no record of a marriage,i am unable to go further back. I was hoping that by looking for Isabella i might find her grand parents ,Williams parents.
i have all of Ann Hopes family going back to the 1800c