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Title: Undeliverable emails
Post by: MaxD on Saturday 27 June 15 10:10 BST (UK)
The "Mail Delivery System" whoever that is, has bounced back emails from someone I have been corresponding with regularly as "Undeliverable" and with the explanation  "too many mails for this host" (or something similar I haven't got the exact words any more).

I am using window live mail totally successfully for this and other addresses.  The address is a yahoo.com one.

Would someone please kindly explain, in English, what all that means, why is it happening and can I do anything about it.
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: groom on Saturday 27 June 15 10:57 BST (UK)
If you can send to other people, then I would guess that there is a problem at the receiver's end, rather than yours. Perhaps their mail box is full? Can you contact them by phone or text and ask them if there is a problem?

This could explain it

http://blogs.constantcontact.com/why-emails-bounce/
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 27 June 15 10:58 BST (UK)
That was my first thought! ;D

But (apparently) Yahoo.com mailboxes are unlimited? :-\

You need to read all of the "Undeliverable" email you receive.
There should be clues in there as to where the error occurred?
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: groom on Saturday 27 June 15 11:01 BST (UK)
See if this helps

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/286106
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: confused73 on Saturday 27 June 15 11:06 BST (UK)
I too have had similar problems with gmail and aol. Friends have tried to send me e
mails and been unable to do so, I have not been able to send to them either, and now one friend who I have been sending emails to, I just get a message unable to deliver.



Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 June 15 11:27 BST (UK)
Not sure what the limit is for existing accounts... it is now:


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"too many mails for this host"  means their mailbox is full, this includes Deleted Mails IF they don't empty their messages in the deleted folder which many don't, as they think they are Deleted completely.

The Deleted Folder is only a folder which stores the mail... and takes up space in their mailbox!!
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 27 June 15 13:44 BST (UK)
For Gmail messages that have been in Bin for more than 30 days will be automatically deleted.

Stan
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: MaxD on Saturday 27 June 15 14:19 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone.  K Garrad - you are right of course, tend to hit delete too early!  Wording is as Hall mark has said.  My correspondent says she has no problem with emails from anyone else but I haven't yet asked about her deleted box.  I'll get in touch again.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 27 June 15 17:03 BST (UK)
I used to have this with a friend who uses Virgin net, once the new month started he could send and receive again,until he got his settings altered to removed deleted mails off the server.

As Hallmark said earlier,they all count towards the amount of mails in their inbox.
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 June 15 21:27 BST (UK)
I used to have this with a friend who uses Virgin net, once the new month started he could send and receive again,until he got his settings altered to removed deleted mails off the server.

As Hallmark said earlier, they all count towards the amount of mails in their inbox.

The Inbox is only part of the Mailbox and the Mailbox is only a certain size similar to a Mailbox that mailmen deliver letters to.

IF you just keep leaving mail/spam etc you don't want in it then the box will fill up so mailman can't get any letter in to it!!

The ones you don't want to keep (delete) are still in the mailbox until one deletes them permanently! The reason being, one may "delete" one by accident, it can still be retrieved in the deleted folder.....

Most Programs remove these deleted messages after 28 or 30 days, so makes a bit of space in mailbox until it gets filled again by a few emails  UNLESS the messages in the deleted portion of the mailbox are actually removed....

Plus sometimes mail you want gets fitted into Spam folder because that is all the space there is...
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: MaxD on Sunday 28 June 15 12:40 BST (UK)
Hallmark - thanks first for the clarity of your non-techie explanation!

I've rechecked - my correspondent has no problem with emails from any other source and does not have full boxes.  Evidence - we have been corresponding by PM lately (living people involved) and the email notifications from RC get through fine.  My emails to others are also fine. 
Just had an idea, I've got a Gmail acount, I'll try that and see what happens - more later.

maxD
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: MaxD on Sunday 28 June 15 19:45 BST (UK)
Later - tried direct emailing using my Gmail account - no problem.

I give up.

maxd
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 28 June 15 22:10 BST (UK)
Not sure why the

"Mail Delivery System" whoever that is, has bounced back emails from someone I have been corresponding with regularly as "Undeliverable" and with the explanation  "too many mails for this host"...

Your mail server sees something wrong with other person's mail server for some reason, it thinks their box has too many mails in it!

At least you know it is not the other person's box being full, which it might have been.

looks like a glitch between mail servers!!
Title: Re: Undeliverable emails
Post by: MaxD on Monday 29 June 15 07:55 BST (UK)
Thanks Hallmark.  I was coming round to that idea and as we have found an alternative, I am content to leave it as one of life's little mysteries.  Hopefully the servers in SW19 will get on better in the next weeks!

maxD