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Title: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Tuesday 23 June 15 14:25 BST (UK)
He has disappeared from this planet.....well as far as I can search that is.
Parents Thomas and Margaret Humphreys. 4 th son. Walter/Percy/Phillip/Harold + a cpla others. He married Olive may Millward in 1919 and they had 3 kids. BUT Olive married again in 1947 but I cant find out what happened to Harold. he was alive after 1929 as the had a new child then. Any help...........thanks
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: Kevin Burrell on Tuesday 23 June 15 16:04 BST (UK)
Hi - don't suppose you have his date of birth? As you have probably seen there are around 5 or 6 possible death records. The only one I found that included DOB was the following..

Name: Harold Humphreys
Birth Date: 30 May 1896
Date of Registration: Mar 1977
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: South Glamorgan
Inferred County: South Glamorgan
Volume: 28
Page: 0665s

As Harold's birth registration record is Q3 1896, he could have been born in May - there are plenty of marriages for Harold Humphreys in Wales between 1929 and 1977 as well!! Not going to be an easy nut to crack me thinks

Cheers

Kev
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Tuesday 23 June 15 16:22 BST (UK)
Hi Kev and thanks. My Gdad was born in Plymouth in July/sept according to free BMD in 1896. now the problem I have is there are quite a few Humphreys in SE Wales. His parents lived near panteg for a while b4 heading off to S Africa for the wars then they came back to Plymouth and after a while back to panteg. So Its my thought , its a diff Harold.
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: Kevin Burrell on Tuesday 23 June 15 16:53 BST (UK)
Yep - it is a shame these records are based on the date you registered the birth rather than the actual birth date because it makes it that much more difficult for us - in your case Harold could have been born as early as 1st April and registered on 1st July or 29th September and registered on 30th September - I guess that is part of the challenge:)
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 23 June 15 16:55 BST (UK)
BUT Olive married again in 1947 but I cant find out what happened to Harold.

Did Olives 1947 marriage say she was a widow
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Tuesday 23 June 15 17:19 BST (UK)
Interesting point Rosie. I do remember reading somewhere that her new marriage had her surname as both maiden and married names....Humphreys/Millward.
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: Neil Humphreys on Thursday 06 August 15 14:29 BST (UK)
Mike

Just a heads up we are related in some way as my Harold is my Great Uncle. My Grandfather is Arthur Humphreys, Harolds Brother.

Where do you fit in as I have a whole tree of humphreys dating back to 18xx

Neil
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Thursday 06 August 15 16:09 BST (UK)
Hi Neil. This could be fun as I haven't an Arthur as Harolds bro???
Walter, Percy, Phillip, Harold, Maggie, Fanny, and maybe a Robert????

Mike
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: Neil Humphreys on Thursday 06 August 15 21:05 BST (UK)
Father is Thomas Henry Humphreys and Mother was Margaret Ann Francis
6 Sons as far as I can tell and one daughter
Charles T (1883), Walter (1889), Percy (1890), Phillip (1894), Harold (1897), Maggie (Margaret) (1898) and Arthur (My Grand father) (1884)

Now there does seem to be a bit of an issue between Phillip and Percy as they got mixed up a little so whether there is a another Son and Percy/Phillip are same person I cannot tell.

Where do you fit into this ?

Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: jan57 on Thursday 06 August 15 22:35 BST (UK)
 Neil .    I've sent  you  a  Private  message ,    if you  post  once  more  on this  thread  , you'll be able to  see  it 
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: Neil Humphreys on Friday 07 August 15 03:01 BST (UK)
Where do I get a private message?
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: jan57 on Friday 07 August 15 14:40 BST (UK)
Where do I get a private message?

 At the top of   your  page   when  you  log  on   ,  you'll see   a' My  messages'  link    if  you   scroll over that  it  will   come  up with  'read message an  send message ,   click on read message   and  it  will show  up 
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Friday 07 August 15 17:47 BST (UK)
According to the 1911 census, they all moved back to panteg Wales between the 1901/1911 censuses. I have no recode of an eldest bro called  anything but Walter?  After Maggie The 1901census has fanny, b 1900 and then 1911 census a  Robert b1902. No mention of any Arthur??.
My gd was Harold, b1896 in Plymouth, married olive may millward and then Harold disappears. I know my gran remarried a boag in 1947 in pompey as that's where I as brought up til my parents divorced in 64,. I now live in east Cornwall. Want me to pm my Tel number?

Mike
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Friday 07 August 15 17:58 BST (UK)
I can't find any of them in the 1891 census as I think they were all in SA, boer war etc. But why isn't Arthur in the 1901 census.??
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: jan57 on Friday 07 August 15 19:40 BST (UK)
 A  tree  on Ancestry  has the   Humphreys family on ,( owner  is a Gary Humphries )  with  Charles Thomas Humphreys    born 1883 in Farnham Surrey   as  is Arthur ,   Charles   is in Shropshire  in 1901, and  ten years  later  in the  Military,   dying  in  Panteg in1953    There's  no  1891  census  mentioned on the tree, 

 Maybe Arthur  stayed in SA  when the family  returned to UK, and so is absent  on1901 census?
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Friday 07 August 15 20:17 BST (UK)
My Humphreys ancestor, Charles is from shrops, not surrey.and died in 1940 in Pontypool. There a a Cpl of Humphreys in the se Wales area not related  as my gggd was Charles Humphreys b 1831/0 in Newport shrops and was a copper.
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Thursday 10 September 15 18:45 BST (UK)
Where do I get a private message?
is there a prob here, do U want info or not Neil???
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Monday 28 December 15 10:24 GMT (UK)
Neil......contact me as I have been contacted by a Gary Humphries who's GGGD was an older bro of Charles
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 28 December 15 12:31 GMT (UK)
Neil......contact me as I have been contacted by a Gary Humphries who's GGGD was an older bro of Charles

Neil hasn't been on Rootschat since 02 October 15 ,he should be getting reminders that replies have been posted here and you would have thought he would come back online and respond?

Maybe a Mod can tell us if his email preferences are set up for him to be notified?

Carol
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Monday 28 December 15 12:37 GMT (UK)
Are you .....one of us Carol?? ::)
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 28 December 15 12:41 GMT (UK)
Are you .....one of us Carol?? ::)
What exactly is that supposed to mean?

I have replied as I noticed you asked him to contact you,but had seen that he's not been online since October and having been on Rootschat for over 10 years ,I was trying to help  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: harold Humphreys born 1896 plymouth devon
Post by: mikal83 on Monday 28 December 15 13:26 GMT (UK)
It meant...are you a Humphreys? Nothing sinister.... :-\