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Title: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Paquita on Thursday 18 June 15 17:50 BST (UK)
My ancestor was married in Rostrevor in 1883. On the 1891 and 1901 censi (England), his birthplace is given as County Down. I have recently found him on crew lists,and on these his place of birth is given as Belfast,part of which is in County Down.
I am eagerly awaiting the 8th of next month when many records will be made available.As these will be searchable by Parish, I am at a loss to know which Parishes I should be searching. I have Googled for this information,but am non the wiser!
Can anyone help?
Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: conahy calling on Thursday 18 June 15 18:03 BST (UK)
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/downrc.htm

This is a link for Co Down RC parishes.
  Is that the denomination of the person for which you are searching?
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Paquita on Thursday 18 June 15 18:26 BST (UK)
Thank you for your prompt reply. My problem is that I am trying to find those Parishes which are in Belfast and also in County Down as I think there will be little point in searching in that part of Belfast which is in Antrim.
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 18 June 15 19:02 BST (UK)
Hi,
    If you let us have the names of the groom and bride we can try to get the details.

Regards
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Paquita on Thursday 18 June 15 19:49 BST (UK)
Thank you. The person I am looking for is Thomas Fearon. He was born about 1858 and his father was Matthew (a farmer) .I am interested in finding his baptism which may give his mother's name.
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 18 June 15 20:03 BST (UK)
Thank you. The person I am looking for is Thomas Fearon. He was born about 1858 and his father was Matthew (a farmer) .I am interested in finding his baptism which may give his mother's name.

Earlier topic of yours-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=169260.msg799372#msg799372
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 18 June 15 20:05 BST (UK)
Hi,
   I cannot find the information myself but the Ros Davies site gives the same information which you gave and it gives the e-mail address of the person who supplied the information. You may get more assistance here. See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/F/Fearon.htm

Regards
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Paquita on Friday 19 June 15 08:42 BST (UK)
Thank you both. I supplied the information on the Ros Davies site.
When the records are released by The National Library next month, they will have to be searched by parish.I do not know which parishes would be the best ones for me to search as I cannot find out which ones are in both Belfast and County Down.
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 19 June 15 08:47 BST (UK)
Look at the map posted in link (reply #1)- Belfast/Ballymacarrett
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Sinann on Friday 19 June 15 09:13 BST (UK)
Always thought the links and instructions on that site are a bit hard to find.
Click on the parish Than see where it say Click Here for a list of place names etc.
That click on the two Civil parishes names and it will give you a list of places.
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Paquita on Friday 19 June 15 11:39 BST (UK)
Thank you very much,I will have a good look later.
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 20 June 15 08:00 BST (UK)
You might want to give this a try
http://www.swilson.info/rcparishlink.php
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Paquita on Saturday 20 June 15 10:04 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for your help.
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Saturday 20 June 15 14:19 BST (UK)
Hi Paquita,  the roman catholic parishes of Belfast city are  listed by the Diocese of Down and Connor. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_Down_and_Connor, but
I was surprised I was unable to find a map of these parishes, yes I found the  map for the catholic churches as already given you. have you found a map as yet? This list doesn't show whether they are in Belfast Co Down or Belfast Co Antrim
Cathedral (St. Peter's) A
Christ the Redeemer (Lagmore)
Corpus Christi
Derryaghy A
Drumbo & Carryduff
Greencastle A
Hannahstown A
Holy Cross
Holy Family
Holy Rosary
Holy Trinity
Nativity, (Poleglass) A
Our Lady Queen of Peace (Kilwee)
Parish of Antrim (St Comgall's and St Joseph's) A
Sacred Heart
St Agnes'
St Anne's
St Anthony's
St Bernadette's
St Brigid's
St Colmcille's
St Gerard's
St James' (Whiteabbey) A
St John's
St Luke's (Twinbrook) A
St Malachy's
St Mary's
St Mary's-On-The-Hill
St Matthews
St Michael The Archangel
St Oliver Plunkett
St Patrick's
St Paul's
St Teresa's
St Vincent De Paul (Ligoniel) A
Whitehouse A

If you want an address for each these are available in the online Catholic directory for Down and Connor, BUT a chatterer might be able to come down the list marking each A or D might be
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Paquita on Saturday 20 June 15 17:30 BST (UK)
Thank you for that list.I do not have a map as yet.It looks as though I am going to be very busy wading through all those!
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Sunday 21 June 15 09:05 BST (UK)
I have amended that list with what i am certain about with A's
Surely a Belfast chatterer knows more than me, please join in
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 21 June 15 09:44 BST (UK)
Some others cane be eliminated- St Oliver Plunkett established 1976

The following are certainly in Co. Antrim-
Christ the Redeemer (Lagmore), Holy Cross, Holy Family, Our Lady Queen of Peace (Kilwee), St. Agnes', St. Anne's, St. Bernadette's (new building), St. Gerard's, St. Malachy's, St. Matthew's, St. Patrick's, St. Paul's.

The trouble in starting with a list from sources like Wikipedia is that it will be a list of current churches- some in the diocese might have been closed, moved (such as Holy Rosary) or recent opened (such as St. Oliver Plunkett- see above).
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 21 June 15 10:07 BST (UK)
Just an observation, but I'm wondering if it's worth keeping an open mind on the Belfast birth references, I'm just not sure why Thomas Fearon, a labourer at the time of his marriage, would have moved to Rostrevor from his supposed birthplace Belfast.

Griffiths Valuation has a Matthew Fearon in a house, office and a couple of acres in the townland of Ballinliss in the civil parish of Killevy in County Armagh (print date 1864), which is near Rostrevor.


Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Paquita on Sunday 21 June 15 10:20 BST (UK)
I am very grateful for all the replies.I am trying to keep an open mind. When I found the crew lists I was very surprised to see Belfast as the place of birth. I would normally have thought that the entry was for someone with the right name and age, except for the fact that the address was correct.
If he was born in Belfast/Down would that mean Belfast City ,or a wider area?
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 21 June 15 10:42 BST (UK)
It's not terribly uncommon to see 'Belfast' as place of birth for someone who has moved overseas- my grandfather's uncle who died in the U.S. in the 1890s had Belfast listed as his place of birth in his obituary even though he was born and raised 50 miles away.

It might be that your ancestor was born in Co. Down but reared in Belfast (or the other way around) but there's really no way of knowing from the details you have so far.
Title: Re: Belfast, County Down
Post by: Paquita on Sunday 21 June 15 12:32 BST (UK)
I fear that this man is going to cause me more problems than I expected,but trying to find him will keep me out of mischief I suppose.