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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: vfrye on Monday 15 June 15 02:14 BST (UK)
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Hi !
I created this topic to help people with their family (first settlers) in Quebec as I found 2 huge books from Drouin about genealogy in my grandfather's library. :)
Some surnames aren't there but if I can help and give people the story of their ancestor, I will be happy !
Have a nice day,
Vfrye
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Hi vfrye,
Cool find. What year are the books from? I'm from Quebec.
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Hi KNormoyle,
(I was going to write you in French,lol)
This is about French Canadian Family from 1608 to 1760. Some surname are not there but I can find a lot of them. Also, there is another book with genealogy lines from 1608-1760.
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Cool. Let me know if you see anything on the Pion dit Lafontaine family. Immigrated to Quebec sometime between 1608 and 1634. Nicolas Pion dit lafontaine married Jeanne Amiot who I believe was a fille du roi.
If you wrote it in French I could read it. I knew I couldn't speak it anymore when last time I visited, I would ask a question in French and get a response in English.
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Nicolas Pion dit Lafontaine, son of Nicolas Pion (son of Nicolas and Renée Lemaître) and Catherine Bredon.
B : May 17, 1634 at Tours St-Pierre du Boile, France.
Baptism : May 17, 1634 (http://www.migrations.fr/images/actebaptemenicolaspion17051634.png)
His godfather was Thibaud Bonault (middle-class merchant) and Françoise Scarruan.
D: March 3, 1703 at Verchères, Québec, Canada.
Burial : March 3, 1703 at Québec.
He was committed to Pierre Gaigneur, "Le cat de Hollande" captain, and travelled with him to work in Québec during 3 years. He received an advance of 75 pounds.
At the end of his contract, he was recruit as soldier for the Carignan Regiment army for the Sorel company during 5 years. He was done in 1673.
He signed a marriage contract on Thursday September 14, 1673 before a notary called Romain Becquet. (http://www.migrations.fr/images/MARIAGE_FILLESDUROY/AmyotJeanne_PionQc1673.jpg)
He received a land (at Saurel lordship) by Pierre Sorel on Sept 8, 1673, ratified before a notary called Antoine Adhémar on Sept 26, 1676.
He was hospitalised at Hôtel Dieu de Québec on Sept 23, 1696 but retired to Séminaire de Québec on October 14, 1699. He selled his land to François Jarret (father of Madeleine de Verchères).
Jeanne Amyot (daughter of Noël and Anne Vivien)
B: about February 4, 1651 at St-Pierre de Losne, France
D: February 6, 1745 at Verchères.
She was a Fille du Roy and came in Québec in 1673 with proparty of 200 pounds.
She was a midwife.
I did not find those information in my book (they weren't there) but Fille du Roy were really important here. It is also the 365 anniversary of Fille du Roy and Soldier of Carignan. Their stories are easy to find.
(P.S : I hate when French people answer in English if someone ask in French... You were trying and that is great!)
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I also found the marriage contract :
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Whoa, how fantastic!
If the image has been removed by the time you get here, Keith, PM me and I can help. It's available in the Drouin Collection. And yes, all the Filles du Roi people can be found online!
Cheers,
China
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If you ever need me to translate the marriage contract, just let me know. :)
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Thanks for all that. At one point I did have access to the drouin collection but haven't been as active lately. I think my road block that I hit with proving that my 4 x ggm was the same Josette Finlay that is the daughter of Jacco Finlay has really discouraged me. I put in a solid year of work and hit a complete wall. Josette married into the Pions so I thought maybe there would be some kind of clue. I've hit road blocks now my Dad's paternal and maternal side and my mom's maternal side.
Thanks for looking. I knew the names but I didn't have the marriage certificate.
~Keith
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Yes, hitting a wall is always a bit annoying but this is what make research fun !
Could you please give me when and where they lived ? If I find something, I will let you know ! :)
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For this part of my family I may not break through this wall. Here's a link to a previous thread I had posted.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=708324.0
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Keith,
Louis Pion married Josephte Findlay in 1825 at Montréal but can't find her parents.
There is also a reference to Louis as voyageur :
http://voyageurs.shsb.mb.ca/fr/Results.aspx?AC=GET_RECORD&XC=/fr/Results.aspx&BU=http%3A%2F%2Fvoyageurs.shsb.mb.ca%2Ffr%2Fsearch.aspx&TN=voyageurs&SN=AUTO2147&SE=793&RN=2&MR=10&TR=0&TX=1000&ES=0&CS=0&XP=&RF=WebBriefLastName&EF=&DF=WebFull&RL=0&EL=0&DL=0&NP=255&ID=&MF=GENERICFREWPMSG.INI&MQ=&TI=0&DT=&ST=0&IR=29867&NR=0&NB=0&SV=0&SS=0&BG=&FG=&QS=&OEX=ISO-8859-1&OEH=utf-8
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Yes,
I have copies of his HBC records, putting him in Spokane House that Finlay built and was posted in 1824.
I also have Jossette's baptism the day before her marriage but it also does not have her parent's names, but says she was born in 1800 at forte des prairies. Jacques Finlay was stationed at Forte des Prairies in 1800.
MNO says it's not enough proof.
I'm sure there were lots of Finlays running around a Fur trading post in 1800.
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That's weird cuz usually, parent's name are on marriage records. I read it and there is absolutely nothing.
Did you contacted any historical society of Edmonton or Fort Edmonton ? Metis Nation National Council ?
http://www.agsedm.edmonton.ab.ca/links.html
There is a lot of place where you can call and ask for information. Maybe someone knows.
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That's weird cuz usually, parent's name are on marriage records. I read it and there is absolutely nothing.
Did you contacted any historical society of Edmonton or Fort Edmonton ? Metis Nation National Council ?
http://www.agsedm.edmonton.ab.ca/links.html
There is a lot of place where you can call and ask for information. Maybe someone knows.
MNO don't help individuals with research. It's up to you to prove it. There is another Metis organization in Ontario that will do the research of course for a fee. I'm not sure about them being recognized by the Metis National council.
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Hello there,
I have an elusive relative, my husband's great grandfather, who is not French Canadian but did live in Quebec for some 30 years (1844 - 1874) and we can find next to no trace of him there. I am not sure if you can help.
William HARRIS was born in Buckingham, England in 1826. He became a stone mason and came to Canada, landing in Quebec, aboard the 'St. Anne' along with other poor people from his hometown. Then he disappears ... or at least I have not found him! He next reappears in March 1874 when he marries Maria Ann PIERCE in Fitzroy Twp., Carleton County, Ontario, just over the river from Quebec. He is nowhere to be found on any Ontario census before that, so I believe he was working somewhere in Quebec until a job took him to Ontario one day and he met his future wife and stayed.
One small clue - a cabin in Quebec! William's son, William John HARRIS (1879 - 1952) lived most of his life in Fitzroy Twp. but spent a good bit of time in a remote cabin in the small hamlet of Grove Creek, Quebec which is 18 km northeast of Otter Lake. He later brought his own children there at times. The family had no money so I am wondering how they bought a little cabin? It could be that they did not buy it but inherited it from the elder William HARRIS, as this was his home before he went to Ontario in 1874. I am not sure how to connect this to William HARRIS ... by land records perhaps?
I am very unfamiliar with Quebec research. Perhaps you could tell me where I might find some hints as to where William HARRIS was living in those missing 30 years (1844 - 1874) as I am clueless about where to look. Thank you!!
Mary
Ontario
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Hello there,
I have an elusive relative, my husband's great grandfather, who is not French Canadian but did live in Quebec for some 30 years (1844 - 1874) and we can find next to no trace of him there. I am not sure if you can help.
William HARRIS was born in Buckingham, England in 1826. He became a stone mason and came to Canada, landing in Quebec, aboard the 'St. Anne' along with other poor people from his hometown. Then he disappears ... or at least I have not found him! He next reappears in March 1874 when he marries Maria Ann PIERCE in Fitzroy Twp., Carleton County, Ontario, just over the river from Quebec. He is nowhere to be found on any Ontario census before that, so I believe he was working somewhere in Quebec until a job took him to Ontario one day and he met his future wife and stayed.
One small clue - a cabin in Quebec! William's son, William John HARRIS (1879 - 1952) lived most of his life in Fitzroy Twp. but spent a good bit of time in a remote cabin in the small hamlet of Grove Creek, Quebec which is 18 km northeast of Otter Lake. He later brought his own children there at times. The family had no money so I am wondering how they bought a little cabin? It could be that they did not buy it but inherited it from the elder William HARRIS, as this was his home before he went to Ontario in 1874. I am not sure how to connect this to William HARRIS ... by land records perhaps?
I am very unfamiliar with Quebec research. Perhaps you could tell me where I might find some hints as to where William HARRIS was living in those missing 30 years (1844 - 1874) as I am clueless about where to look. Thank you!!
Mary
Ontario
Omd!
I'm so sorry for replying that late! I don't know if you find more information about William Harris but I'm going to look at it if you are still interested!
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Oh please don't worry about how long it took to reply! I do genealogical research off and on so no big rush. Thank you for checking for me though. Much appreciated. :)
Mary