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Title: Edward Williams Hay-on-Wye
Post by: Peterhastie on Sunday 14 June 15 10:48 BST (UK)

Researching this for a friend.

Edward Williams b c1815, St Davids Breconshire, is on Black Lion road, Hay, in 1861 with his wife Eliza and family.

In 1871 he appears to be at the same place but with a different wife, Charlott.

Could anyone confirm Eliza died and Edward remarried?

Also the friend in question has the middle name Lilwall and so do many of his family.

The origin of the name has been lost and i have been unable to connect the Williams with the Lilwalls, who seem prominent in the area.

I have been using a tree on Ancestry, whos' owner has not yet replied to my enquiry, and cannot see any connection from that.

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/21888636/person/1148366927?ssrc=

Maybe its pre BMD registration.
 

   

Title: Re: Edward Williams Hay-on-Wye
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 14 June 15 10:55 BST (UK)

FreeBMD has some potential marriages?

March qtr 1871
Hereford district     vol 6a, page 671
Williams, Edward
+ and on the same page +
Smith, Charlotte

Less likely:
June qtr 1863
Cardiff district     vol 11a, page 375
Williams, Edward
+ and on the same page +
James, Charlotte

Title: Re: Edward Williams Hay-on-Wye
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 14 June 15 11:03 BST (UK)

Possible death for Eliza (again from FreeBMD):

September qtr 1862
Hay district     vol 11b, page 99
Williams, Eliza

December qtr 1863
Hay district     vol 11b, page 105
Williams, Eliza

March qtr 1865
Hay district     vol 11b, page 116
Williams, Eliza Ann

September qtr 1867
Hay district     vol 11b, page 91
Williams, Eliza     age 56

Title: Re: Edward Williams Hay-on-Wye
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 15 June 15 16:26 BST (UK)

Warwickshire?

Marriage Reg;
June 1866, Aston, 6d 475
Edward WILLIAMS/Charlotte DEARDEN on same page

1861 Census has a Charlotte Dearden born c 1831 Hay, Breconshire with her Mother/and Sibling
1851 with Parents John/Priscilla and born c 1828

Trish :)

Title: Re: Edward Williams Hay-on-Wye
Post by: Peterhastie on Monday 15 June 15 17:21 BST (UK)

Thanks KGarrard and Trish1120

I never thought to look just across the border with Charlotte being born Hay, on the 1871census

Just returned from the library and free FindMyPast and got the Parish Register entry for Edward, marrying Eliza Nichols, Feb 19th 1842.

Next visit i'll see if i can find Edward and Charlotte's marriage in the Warwickshire Parish Registers.

Still no link to the Lilwalls?

Found

Title: Re: Edward Williams Hay-on-Wye
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 16 June 15 05:34 BST (UK)

Let us know the outcome after you research the 1866 Marriage (I hope its the right one)

Title: Re: Edward Williams Hay-on-Wye
Post by: Peterhastie on Wednesday 17 June 15 23:37 BST (UK)

Alas, no parish entry for Edward and Charlottes marriage on FindMyPast.

Title: Re: Edward Williams Hay-on-Wye
Post by: Mozzieque on Tuesday 11 February 20 03:17 GMT (UK)

Hi there, Edward Williams (widower) married Charlotte Dearden (spinster) on 2 June 1866 in the district of Aston, county of Warwick. They had a son, George Morgan Williams, born 26 May 1868. (There may have been other children.) George is my husband’s great great grandfather.  Edward Williams died on 5 April 1880 (65 years of age) at 27 Lion Street, Hay. The informant was listed as Henry Williams, son. Charlotte died on 14th January 1879 at 27 Lion Street, Hay at the age of 51.

Title: Re: Edward Williams Hay-on-Wye
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 11 February 20 11:26 GMT (UK)

Welcome to Rootschat Mozzieque.
Peter hasnt been on here since Sept 2018.
Hopefully he has the same email address and will be notified of your reply.

Trish :)