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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: angi0 on Saturday 13 June 15 21:31 BST (UK)
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hello all
Looking for any help with the following up to date we have George Stewart fowler Hamilton born in 1929 ..
We acquired the birth certificate father listed as James Hamilton and mother Margaret fowler...
They married in 1927..
Marriage States James Hamilton age 21 father James Hamilton deceased mother Jessie Hamilton Ms ?? Allen
Margaret fowler aged 18 father Joseph fowler deceased mother Matilda fowler Ms ?? Kirkwood
There is a census 1n 1911 showing James and Jessie with son James aged 5 with his parents but can't seem to work out the birth of the father on this census and don't seem to be able to locate 1901
Any help would be appreciated
Amgie
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There is a census 1n 1911 showing James and Jessie with son James aged 5 with his parents but can't seem to work out the birth of the father on this census and don't seem to be able to locate 1901
You don't give any details of how long James & Jessie had been married. Were they married before 1901?
If yes - you need to give Jessie's birthyear and birthplace plus James birthplace to help with a 1901 search. Also details of any children born before 1901
If they married after 1901 - Have you looked up the marriage to find his age at that time and also his fathers name and occupation which may help find him in 1901?
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If I'm looking at the right family both James and Jessie are shown as born Bo'ness, Linlithgow.
Annette
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Hello
Thank you for your replies This is for a friend the information that I have managed to get so far is this.
on the 1911 census there is
james hamilton aged 39
andrew aged 16
mary aged 15
james aged 5
janet aged months
it shows that they have been married for 17 ..
I am trying to find a subscription site where i can access the records as scottish people are quite expensive for credits...
hope this makes sense if not ask away I am totally lost in scottish recorde
thanks
angie
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Angie, the only source for the records you are looking for is Scotlands People. The Scottish GRO is sourced through SP for easy online access. Costs are very reasonable really compared to the GRO. There is always a debate about the costs of SP, a few posts on this over the years. People sometimes don't compare to what is the alternative in the rest of the UK.
Once you are able to get further back, it can and should get much easier to find alternative records online. The 20th C material is always tricky for everyone :-\
Have you got access to one of the subs. services which carry transcripts of the Scottish censuses up to 1901 (original images only via SP)? The 1911 is only available on SP.
Monica :)
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Hi Monica
We have purchased credits on SP we are really struggling getting the 1901 census for this family, but will keep searching ..
I appreciate all help we have only got SP credits at the moment and have the 1911 census printed along with a couple for marriages..
thanks
angie
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From someone's online tree here http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/43104848/person/26880609916 (not sure if you have a subs there), this looks to be the 1901 entry for the Hamiltons:
James Hamilton 38 coal miner b. bo'ness, Linlithgowshire
Jessie Hamilton 38 b. bo'ness, Linlithgowshire
John Hamilton 14 b. Muiravonside, stirlingshire
Ellen Hamilton 11 b. Muiravonside, stirlingshire
David Hamilton 9 b. Muiravonside, stirlingshire
Robins Hamilton 7 b. Muiravonside, stirlingshire
Thomas Hamilton 4 b. Slamannan, stirlingshire
Lizzie Hamilton 2 b. Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire
Marion Hamilton 1 b. Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire
Peter Ferguson 21 boarder coal miner b. Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire
Address: Candie Old Pib, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire [as transcribed for address. The original image on SP would help to confirm address and anything else that is not clear from the transcript].
1891 here too:
James Hamilton 28 coal miner b. Linlithgow
Jessie Hamilton 26 b. Linlithgow
Jessie Hamilton 10
Mary Hamilton 7
John Hamilton 4
Helen Hamilton 10 Months
Address: Candy Rows, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire
Monica
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thank you Monica I have printed that off and i am going to try and find a marriage as they state to be married 17 years on the 1911 census..
angie
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...Marriage States James Hamilton age 21 father James Hamilton deceased mother Jessie Hamilton Ms ?? Allen
From others' research:
James Hamilton Snr may have died on 5 Apr 1919 in Plean, Stirling. Can't easily see his birth on family search index here https://familysearch.org/search but his birth is given as being on 14/10/1862 in Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire.
Wife Jessie Allen, again can't easily her birth online although this is given as being on 22 Mar 1863 in bo'ness, Linlithgowshire. Death 4 Apr 1940 in Stirling St., Denny.
James and Jessie's marriage looks to have been on 24 Aug 1884 in Falkirk Stirlingshire.
All of these details are verifiable on SP, within the dates you can view original images for certs online.
Hopefully this lets you narrow down some entries on SP to view.
Monica :)
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Thank you Monica so very much will look up these certificates now and let you know what is on them
angie
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When you search on SP, make good use of the wildcard for variant spellings.... ::)
This symbol is used on SP - *
When searching for Jessie, try her surname search as Al*n, to pick up on Allan.
Also, lots of first name variants too (I know, as if we didn't have enough to cope with ;D). Best site, in my view, for first name variants is this one www.whatsinaname.net
Jessie in Scotland is very often linked to variants of Janet. See www.whatsinaname.net/female-names/Jessie.html
This may help when searching for Jessie in records.
Monica :)
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hello all
Looking for any help with the following up to date we have George Stewart fowler Hamilton born in 1929 ..
We acquired the birth certificate father listed as James Hamilton and mother Margaret fowler...
They married in 1927..
Marriage States James Hamilton age 21 father James Hamilton deceased mother Jessie Hamilton Ms ?? Allen
Margaret fowler aged 18 father Joseph fowler deceased mother Matilda fowler Ms ?? Kirkwood
There is a census 1n 1911 showing James and Jessie with son James aged 5 with his parents but can't seem to work out the birth of the father on this census and don't seem to be able to locate 1901
Any help would be appreciated
Amgie
I'm connected to James Hamilton and Jessie Allan, James' brother John and Jessie's sister Robina were my great great grandparents. Are you sure this is the correct James Hamilton and wife called Jessie? My tree has James Hamilton b1905 married to an Isabella. Just don't want to see you going down the wrong road. :)