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Title: Cherry 1871 Census Lookup Request Please
Post by: daveyowen on Thursday 11 June 15 14:20 BST (UK)
Hello All,

I am keen to find out the parents names and other details of James Cherry born 1864 in the 1871 census . He was born in Astrope near Long Marston.

Many thanks,

David
Title: Re: Cherry 1871 Census Lookup Request Please
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 11 June 15 14:52 BST (UK)
Sorry not familiar with the area but is Shephall any good?  Will post just in case.

There's this James Cherry in 1871

Thomas Cherry 47 gardener
William 23
Jane 18
Alfred 16
Mary A 13
James 8
Maria 8
Emma Gray 58 housekeeper
Title: Re: Cherry 1871 Census Lookup Request Please
Post by: judi2632 on Thursday 11 June 15 14:55 BST (UK)
1871 Census Living................ LUTON BEDFORDSHIRE
Hannah Cherry   Self      49 Buckland  Buckinghamshire
Ellen Cherry   Daughter   F 26 Wilstone, Hertfordshire
Emma Cherry   Daughter   F 20   Pattingham, Hertfordshire
Elizabeth Hetty Cherry   Daughter F 17Astrope, Hertfordshire
Fanny Cherry   Daughter   F 11 Astrope, Hertfordshire
Phillip Jas Cherry   Son   M 7 Astrope, Hertfordshire

looks like he was born Phillip James Cherry

Philip James Cherry
Reg Year   1864
Quarter    Apr-May-Jun
Reg Dist Berkhamstead
County   Hertfordshire
Volume   3a
Page   349
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1861
John Cherry   40 Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England Occupation ____man? Agri Lab
Hannah Cherry   39 Buckland, Buckinghamshire, England Straw plaiter
Rosetta Cherry   13 Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England Straw plaiter
Emma Cherry   10 Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England Straw plaiter
Elizabeth Cherry   8 Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England Scholar
Fanny Cherry   1 Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England
Ann Cherry   69 Billingdon, Bedfordshire, England (Widow no relationship mentioned )
Title: Re: Cherry 1871 Census Lookup Request Please
Post by: daveyowen on Thursday 11 June 15 14:59 BST (UK)
Hello Milliepiede,

I am not familiar with the area either which does not help. However, familiar with Luton and think that Judi has found the right one.

Many thanks both of you,

David
Title: Re: Cherry 1871 Census Lookup Request Please
Post by: judi2632 on Thursday 11 June 15 15:02 BST (UK)
1851 Spelling as per Ancestry
John Cherrey( Cherry)    30 Farm Lab  Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England
Hannah Cherrey   27 Domestic  Buckland, Buckinghamshire, England
Charlotte Cherrey 9  Straw Plaiter Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England
Ellen Cherrey   6  Straw Plaiter Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England
Rozetta Cherrey   3 Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England
Ema Cherrey   3 Mo Puttenham, Hertfordshire, England
 
Title: Re: Cherry 1871 Census Lookup Request Please
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 11 June 15 15:17 BST (UK)
Appears to be them in 1841;

1841 Census
Shitlington, Bedfordshire
HO107/4/29/Shitlington
John CHERRY, 20, Ag Lab
Hannah, 20
Mary, 10mths
All down as born in County

Anc has John indexed as Jane but image of census is very feint

Possible Marriage Reg;
March 1840, Ampthill, 6 17
John CHERRY/Hannah DEAR on same page
Title: Re: Cherry 1871 Census Lookup Request Please
Post by: judi2632 on Thursday 11 June 15 15:22 BST (UK)
Death for John Cherry

John Cherry
born    abt 1820
Reg Year   1867
Quarter 3
Age at Death 47
Registration district Berkhamstead
County Hertfordshire
Volume 3a
Page 246
Title: Re: Cherry 1871 Census Lookup Request Please
Post by: daveyowen on Thursday 11 June 15 15:29 BST (UK)
Hello Trish,

Thanks for the information. I John Cherry married a Hannah Morriss 1843/44 registered in Berkhampstead which is close to the Astrope, Puttenham and Buckland places on the censuses.

Just keen to not go down the wrong path.

Kind regards,

David
Title: Re: Cherry 1871 Census Lookup Request Please
Post by: judi2632 on Thursday 11 June 15 15:29 BST (UK)
There are a couple of families in the same area with parents John and Hannah  Cherry as the parents so need to be very careful with the parents marriage.

Personally I would get one of the children's birth certificates to confirm this.

Family Tree's online have the marriage between John Cherry and Hannah Dear connected to a different family. ( NOT THAT THEY SHOW AND PROOF OF THIS BEING CORRECT ) so I believe the correct way forward is a child's birth cert .