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Title: WEBB Brick Lane 1820-1880
Post by: Petros on Wednesday 10 June 15 09:55 BST (UK)
The family of James WEBB and his wife Mary lived at 53 Brick Lane between (at least) 1823 and the late 1870s. His younger children (and grandchildren) were baptised at Christ Church but I'm struggling to locate where his older children were baptised.

The 1841 census shows
James  and Mary both born 1786 (not in London)
John (25) and Mary (25)
James and Sarah (both 20)
William 14, Mary 4 and Agnes 2

The 1851 census shows James born 1785, Mary 1787
their children Sarah 32, James 30 and William T 14 plus granddaughter Mary Ann age 13, all born Spitalfields

His presumed son John & his wife Mary were to be found at Clarence Grove, Saint Pancras with 6 children including Frederick & Agnes both born Spitalfields. John's birthplace was given as St Leonard's Shoreditch.
This family of John Webb & Mary Ann Amelia Belcher then emigrated to Victoria (see http://120.146.218.227/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I03397&tree=HillbrickTree1) but left their daughter Mary Ann behind! They married by license at 10/12/1834 at Greyfriars, Newgate

Could anyone locate where John, James and Sarah were born/baptised please.
And conformation that the elder James was John's father would be useful.



Title: Re: WEBB Brick Lane 1820-1880
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 10 June 15 10:29 BST (UK)
Have you checked his Will and the death duty records? There is an 1851 PCC will for James Webb, tea dealer of 53 Brick Lane.  If there is an entry in the death duty ledgers it will name the beneficiaries.
Title: Re: WEBB Brick Lane 1820-1880
Post by: ciderdrinker on Wednesday 10 June 15 11:50 BST (UK)
Hello
Had a look and here's some at Spitalfields Christ church with St Stephen and St Mary

Mary Ann Webb 12.6.1814 d of James and Mary Rose Lane warehouseman
James 7.2.1819 son of James and Mary Brick Lane warehouseman
Eliza 29.6.1823 d of James and Mary Brick Lane warehouseman
William Thomas 15.4.1827
Caroline 15.3.1829 buried 12.6.1831 age 2yrs 5mths

Can't see Sarah and john but will keep looking

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: WEBB Brick Lane 1820-1880
Post by: ciderdrinker on Wednesday 10 June 15 12:08 BST (UK)
Looks like John is at St Matthews Bethnal Green
John Webb son of James and Mary Webb bapt 25 May 1812 and born 24 April 1812.

Still can't see Sarah.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: WEBB Brick Lane 1820-1880
Post by: Petros on Wednesday 10 June 15 12:17 BST (UK)
Shaun

Thanks I'd managed to overlook the will. Unfortunately it only names his wife Mary!

Ciderdrinker
Thanks for confirming the first two at Christ Church, the details don't show up on FindMyPast

Your spot of John indicates that James' marriage was earlier than I had originally thought. I was assuming it was to Mary France at Christ Church in 1817. Clearly I need to look earlier. James was born in Essex while Mary was born in Linton, Cambs according to the 1861 census (the 1851 says Ashdon, Essex)


Title: Re: WEBB Brick Lane 1820-1880
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 10 June 15 12:30 BST (UK)
Per the 1851 census John Webb was born in St Leonard's Shoreditch circa 1812 (age 38).
Title: Re: WEBB Brick Lane 1820-1880
Post by: Slimpickins on Tuesday 23 June 20 16:24 BST (UK)
Re the Will of James Webb, Tea Dealer, of 53 Brick Lane, Spitalfields:

The Will names his wife Mary Webb, but the Codicil names his daughter Sarah Ann Webb.