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Title: Holt Family
Post by: pennyannesherratt on Sunday 07 June 15 00:13 BST (UK)
Need help researching the Holt family, I have hit a brick wall with John Holt who is my 4th great grandfather, born 1787 I think Bury? He married peggy chadwick on the 02/02/1809 at St Mary the Virgin, Bury and went on to have six sons, I have found he's death in 1827 in Bury, It's says he was killed, I don't know how he was killed, so the information I need is hes parents or how he was killed.

Penny xx
Title: Re: Holt Family
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 07 June 15 08:17 BST (UK)
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
1787 Bury

Baptism: 18 May 1787 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England
John Holt - Son of Alice Holt
    Born: 28 Apr 1787
    Abode: Tott.
    Notes: B.
B = Bastard
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Baptism: 3 Aug 1787 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England
John Holt - Son of Richard Holt
    Born: 27 Jun 1787
    Abode: Elton
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Baptism: 21 Oct 1787 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England
John Holt - Son of James Holt
Born: 11 Sep 1787
Abode: Tott
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I presume that one of these is the baptism of your John Holt - so - do you know the names of the children of John Holt and Peggy Chadwick ??...if so are any named
Alice
Richard
James
hopefully one of the children of John / Peggy will be named after one of these 3 choices
good luck
 :)
Title: Re: Holt Family
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 June 15 08:22 BST (UK)
Presumably this is the death you are referring to from lancashireOPC

17 April 1827 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England
John Holt - age 40
Abode Pitts o'th Moor
Cause of Death Killed
Buried by Thomas Selkirk Minister of St. John's Bury

I can't see anything in online newspapers about this.  I suppose it could just be something as simple as a fall as opposed to being killed by someone
Title: Re: Holt Family
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 07 June 15 08:34 BST (UK)
Presumably this is the death you are referring to from lancashireOPC

17 April 1827 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England
John Holt - age 40
Abode Pitts o'th Moor
Cause of Death Killed
Buried by Thomas Selkirk Minister of St. John's Bury

I can't see anything in online newspapers about this.  I suppose it could just be something as simple as a fall as opposed to being killed by someone
Hiya Rosie - can you confirm that if he was 40 when he was buried  on 17th April 1827 , the 3 baptisms state the earliest birth was 28th April 1787....does that mean that John Holt was possibly born 1786 in Bury - or - he wasn't born in Bury at all ???
do I have that right ??
Title: Re: Holt Family
Post by: mosiefish on Sunday 07 June 15 09:19 BST (UK)
Hi,

I think you may have the wrong John Holt death.  There is a John and Jane Holt baptising children at the same time as your John and Peggy.  He was a Miner and their abode was Pitts o'th Moor.

Mo
Title: Re: Holt Family
Post by: heatherjulie on Sunday 07 June 15 09:58 BST (UK)
What about this one

Burial: 1 Jan 1828 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England
John Holt -
Age: 41 years
Abode: Bury
Buried by: Thomas Selkirk Minister of St. John's Bury
Title: Re: Holt Family
Post by: mosiefish on Sunday 07 June 15 10:01 BST (UK)
As your Holts seem to always be living around Tottington/Elton, have you considered this death taken from www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

1838 John Holt aged 49 registered in the sub district of Elton.

Edit: I cannot find a burial for him yet .
Buried 2nd January, 1839 Bury Wesleyan Methodist Church, Union Street
John Holt aged 49 of Elton

Mo 



Title: Re: Holt Family
Post by: Blue70 on Sunday 07 June 15 10:14 BST (UK)
See the Lancs Quarter Sessions for the entry about the John Holt who was killed. He died while working in a mine.


Blue
Title: Re: Holt Family
Post by: pennyannesherratt on Tuesday 09 June 15 10:13 BST (UK)
Thanks guys will be double checking the records