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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: fetlar13 on Wednesday 03 June 15 10:36 BST (UK)
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I'm from near Liverpool, but my Great Grandfather John Vorwerg Dobson was born at 10, Colchester Street, Whitchapel in 1855. The street has now disappeared bur appears to have been in the Leman St/ Braham St area, best I can tell it's now got an office tower build on its site, Any one got an old A-Z or local knowledge can confirm its location and which tower block it's now under? Asking because I'll be in the East End on Sunday 7th and would like to have a look!
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I'm from near Liverpool, but my Great Grandfather John Vorwerg Dobson was born at 10, Colchester Street, Whitchapel in 1855. The street has now disappeared bur appears to have been in the Leman St/ Braham St area, best I can tell it's now got an office tower build on its site, Any one got an old A-Z or local knowledge can confirm its location and which tower block it's now under? Asking because I'll be in the East End on Sunday 7th and would like to have a look!
Also would like to look at St Georges German Church in Alie Street, which was connected John Vorwerg Dobson's Step Grandfather, Georg Frederik Vorwerg.
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Are the family there in the 1851 and/or 1861 censuses?
If so you can look at the neighbours and surrounding area to try to get more idea of the location of the street.
There are many old maps of London. The NLS maps are particularly good and can be found via a google search. Have a look at the maps and if you are can't find the street and no one comes to oir rescue, I will pop back later and try to help.
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It appears to be now called Manningtree Street. See http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=18&lat=51.5151&lon=-0.0706&layers=163&right=BingHyb which has a map and aerial view as it is now.
Google Aerial https://goo.gl/maps/Yos4k Street View https://goo.gl/maps/CP27A The pub is still there.
Stan
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There is only the east end still there, it looks as though No.10 would have been in the west end.
Stan
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Hi I dived into Whitechapel Liverpool before I finished your post...duh
Tinam...
Did John V die in Liverpool?
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Hi,
Lots of Google hits for the German church; here's one you might find interesting:
http://www.stgeorgesgermanchurch.org.uk/
Nanny Jan
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I don't know if this web site can help with a map
http://london1868.com/
http://london1868.com/weller33.htm
http://london1868.com/weller45.htm
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It appears to have been where Braham Street and Manningtree Streets are today. If you look at a map you can see how the two streets may have at some time joined up. I will try to find a map which shows Colchester St.
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Duplicate post ;)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=722160.
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Similar request with answers:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=722159.msg5661181#msg5661181
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It's just under Whitechapel Road. Have a look at the 'White' of 'White'chapel and Colchester is the street below it:
http://mapco.net/cross1861/cross30.htm
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Similar request with answers:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=722159.msg5661181#msg5661181
Thanks Nanny Jan. I thought I had imagined replying to this earlier, or that my reply had not posted correctly. :(
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Topics merged to prevent duplication of effort
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It appears to have been where Braham Street and Manningtree Streets are today. If you look at a map you can see how the two streets may have at some time joined up. I will try to find a map which shows Colchester St.
See my post #3 for a map :)
Stan
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Thanks Stan. I already found one (#11) before I saw your link. There were two threads on the same subject which caused a bit of confusion on my part. :)
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Dear All
Thanks for the info supplied! Sorry about the duplicate post I thought I'd posted the first question to the wrong forum!!
As to Tina's question, yes John Vorwerg Dobson did die in Liverpool in 1925, however by then (because of the post Franco-Prussian war anti Germanic feelings) he had Anglicised his name to John William Dobson, this happened around 1873-77.
I'm looking forward to my visit back to my roots, it must be the year for it as only four weeks ago I was in Glasgow and visited the house where another set of Great Grandparents married.
Cheers again
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Hi fetlar13
If you think you have posted a topic on the wrong board, you should use the 'report to moderator' button at the bottom of the topic and let the team know.
We can then move your topic for you to it's correct place.
Dawn
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Thanks again!
If I post again, then I'll be looking for ancestors of John Vorwerg Dobson.
Cheers
Steve