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Title: Where were they headed?
Post by: wildtech on Monday 01 June 15 14:07 BST (UK)
Relations of mine travelled to the USA in 1919 and they appear in the Ellis Island Passenger lists.  Their final destination is given as:-  N.M. Mexico City.  As far as I can find there is/was no Mexico City in New Mexico.  So were they headed for somewhere in the state of New Mexico, USA or Mexico City in Mexico?.  If it helps their fare was paid by The Anglo Mex trading company who seemed to have been involved the supply of mining hardware.
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 14:14 BST (UK)
Would you like to gives us the names, so that we can take a look at the passenger lists ?

Thanks
Sandra
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: wildtech on Monday 01 June 15 14:39 BST (UK)
OK Their names were Harold James Franey and Florence Franey travelling from Southampton aboard the Adriatic arriving October 1919
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 01 June 15 14:49 BST (UK)
Looking at the passenger list leaving Southampton ,their names were William J and Florence A Franey.

But on the list of those arriving in the USA there is indeed a Harold J and Florence A Franey very odd?
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 14:57 BST (UK)
Notice on a border crossing Mexico to USA   - arrival El Paso Texas - 11 November 1922 - last residence was Mexico City

UK return passenger list showed Harold J Franey travelling alone and going to 122 Grangehill Road, Eltham London.

Florence A Franey born 1888 passed away Sept 1932 - Ecclesall Bierlow Derbyshire - 9c 371

Sandra
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: Genealiza on Monday 01 June 15 15:09 BST (UK)
could this be his death in British Columbia, CA?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLBS-8TQ

b. 24 Mar 1891
occupation:  Electrical Engineer
Canadian resident for 5 years
father:  James Albert
mother: Mary Ann Watts
spouse, deceased: Mary Louise Williams
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: wildtech on Monday 01 June 15 15:38 BST (UK)
If you are logged in to Ellis Island here is the link for their entry


http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/passenger-details/czoxMjoiNjAzNzMzMDIwMDkwIjs=/czo4OiJtYW5pZmVzdCI7 (http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/passenger-details/czoxMjoiNjAzNzMzMDIwMDkwIjs=/czo4OiJtYW5pZmVzdCI7)

Genealiza - yes that is his death.  He re-married as Florence died.  He remarried in England.  When he moved to Canada I'm not sure.  I have had contact with his son who still lives in Canada but we have lost touch
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: wildtech on Monday 01 June 15 15:41 BST (UK)
Quote from: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 14:57 BST (UK)
Notice on a border crossing Mexico to USA   - arrival El Paso Texas - 11 November 1922 - last residence was Mexico City

UK return passenger list showed Harold J Franey travelling alone and going to 122 Grangehill Road, Eltham London.

Florence A Franey born 1888 passed away Sept 1932 - Ecclesall Bierlow Derbyshire - 9c 371

Sandra

Had found the return trip for Harold in 1922 but not the Mexican border crossing - Looks like he was heading for Mexico City, Mexico  :)
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 15:47 BST (UK)
It looks that way   ;)

Sandra
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: Christine53 on Monday 01 June 15 15:57 BST (UK)
The BC death record in 1973  says he had been in Canada for 5 years so he won't appear in the Passenger Lists going to or arriving in Canada.
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 16:18 BST (UK)
If you use http://www.canada411.ca/ - you should be able to contact the son-in-law listed as the informant on the death certificate of Harold Franey.

Sandra
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 16:21 BST (UK)
Harold Franey was listed on the Canada Voters List 1968 living with his son-in-law (draughtsman)and wife  - 6490 Elgin Avenue Burnaby.  (will send you a pm with the names - )

Sandra
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 16:28 BST (UK)
There was a UK marriage for the daughter Miss Franey to the son-in-law listed on the death certificate - Derby - Registered December 1956 - 3 a 497.

Sandra
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: wildtech on Monday 01 June 15 16:47 BST (UK)
Just been comparing this record again with the information I already have and it looks like the passenger list information may not be particularly accurate as the contact information for Florence is a "friend, D Cowell"  Cowell was Florence's maiden name and her father was David so "friend" should probably be "father".  Harold's return journey was to the same address adding weight to this.

Thanks for the PM Sandra - may follow up on that
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 16:57 BST (UK)
Not unusual for slight error it saying friend instead of father Mr D Cowell -

Noticed a possible death for a Mary L Franey - aged 64 years - Registered June 1964 - Derby - 3a 308

Sandra
Title: Re: Where were they headed?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 21:27 BST (UK)
Quote from: *Sandra* on Monday 01 June 15 16:28 BST (UK)
There was a UK marriage for the daughter Miss Franey to the son-in-law listed on the death certificate - Derby - Registered December 1956 - 3 a 497.

Sandra

Check UK Free BMD - There is a birth registered - Sept 1962 - Belper Derbyshire - 3a - 78 - for this couple.

Sandra